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YES! Community / herd Immunity pse! but they did not tell you must let billions die and takes generations!

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After enough spreading and infection and deaths for generations, the entire herd / community will be left with only survivors who has immunity aka antibody inside against a specific virus. Then the entire community herd is quite safe, and small amount of individuals who lack the antibody inside themselves are protected by the others, who can not be infected and hence isolating the virus at a certain safe distance away from the vulnerable ones. It will work! But take long time and HUGE DEATH TOLLs. Survival for only the Fittest and huge number of unfit will have to DIE 1st. Before you eventually reached herd / community immunity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/herd-immunity-will-the-uks-coronavirus-strategy-work

Herd immunity: will the UK's coronavirus strategy work?
Ministers look to have given up on containment in favour of a novel approach some experts are wary of

Sarah Boseley
Fri 13 Mar 2020 18.23 GMT Last modified on Wed 18 Mar 2020 10.55 GMT


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Coronavirus: Johnson warns 'many more families are going to lose loved ones' – video

Herd immunity is a phrase normally used when large numbers of children have been vaccinated against a disease like measles, reducing the chances that others will get it. As a tactic in fighting a pandemic for which there is no vaccine, it is novel – and some say alarming.
It relies on people getting the disease – in this case Covid-19 – and becoming immune as a result. Generally it is thought that those who recover will be immune, at least for now, so they won’t get it twice.
But allowing the population to build up immunity in this way – rather than through widespread testing, tracking down the contacts of every case and isolating them, as many other countries in Asia and Europe have chosen to do – could increase the risk to the most vulnerable: older people with underlying health problems.
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To reach herd immunity, about 60% of the population would need to get ill and become immune, according to Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser. Though it could need as much as 70% or more. Even scientists who understand the strategy are anxious. “I do worry that making plans that assume such a large proportion of the population will become infected (and hopefully recovered and immune) may not be the very best that we can do,” said Martin Hibberd, professor of emerging infectious disease at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

“Another strategy might be to try to contain [it] longer and perhaps long enough for a therapy to emerge that might allow some kind of treatment. This seems to be the strategy of countries such as Singapore. While this containment approach is clearly difficult (and may be impossible for many countries), it does seem a worthy goal; and those countries that can should aim to do.”

The government’s “nudge unit” seems to favour this strategy. Dr David Halpern, a psychologist who heads the Behavioural Insights Team, said on BBC News: “There’s going to be a point, assuming the epidemic flows and grows, as we think it probably will do, where you’ll want to cocoon, you’ll want to protect those at-risk groups so that they basically don’t catch the disease and by the time they come out of their cocooning, herd immunity’s been achieved in the rest of the population.”

But Anthony Costello, a paediatrician and former World Health Organization director, said that the UK government was out of kilter with other countries in looking to herd immunity as the answer. It could conflict with WHO policy, he said in a series of Twitter posts, which is to contain the virus by tracking and tracing all cases. He quoted Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO director general, who said: “The idea that countries should shift from containment to mitigation is wrong and dangerous.”

Herd immunity might not even last, Costello said. “Does coronavirus cause strong herd immunity or is it like flu where new strains emerge each year needing repeat vaccines? We have much to learn about Co-V immune responses.” Vaccines, he said, were a much safer way of bringing it about.
 

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In all the discussions regarding what strategy to use to deal with the virus it is surprising that the climate activists are so quiet.

The liberals who constantly berate the right for being climate change deniers now seem to be also doing the same when the more conservative leaders are suggesting that we let the old farts die.

They need to make up their minds whether the reduction in the world's population will help their cause. If it they think it does then they should support the herd immunity method of dealing with Covid-19.

The trouble is that they seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good.
 

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In all the discussions regarding what strategy to use to deal with the virus it is surprising that the climate activists are so quiet.

The liberals who constantly berate the right for being climate change deniers now seem to be also doing the same when the more conservative leaders are suggesting that we let the old farts die.

They need to make up their minds whether the reduction in the world's population will help their cause. If it they think it does then they should support the herd immunity method of dealing with Covid-19.

The trouble is that they seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good.


Climate morons are only trying to address a SYMPTOM of the planet. You cannot just look only at climate.

The cause and overall is MODERN CIVILIZATION's over-ploitation and over-consumption worsen by over-population, altogether ruining the planet. Denying humanity's STUPIDITY. And INSISTING TO PERSIST THE MISTAKES & WORSEN THE CRISIS.

All the idiots wanted to do is waste time and resources to cover up the real issue. Pretending that they can only look at just the symptom of climate and ignore the TREMENDOUS OBVIOUS MISTAKE / FAULT / CRISIS / DESTRUCTION / MYTH / and Massive Suicide.

Climate morons now shut up when they saw the mother earth release COVID-19 to finish off these fucking parasite pest locust who are stupid and arrogant and proud calling themselves the MOST INTELLIGENT HUMAN - KNN Chiak Sai Tiao Lao Suicide!
 
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