Xenophobia in Singapore

[Leongsam]

even LHL and TCH were stunned by the backlash

There is no point speculating now. In 2016, I will resurrect this thread and we'll see who was right.

 

[Logisex]

Sam is right but his infor is outdated. Can't blame him because he has been out of the country for so long.

No one is challenging the fact that PAP TRANSFORMED Singapore from a fishing village to a major city with their PAST policies. There were also good quality FTs (on expat package) that has helped us along the way.

That was the past so there is no point in arguing with Sam.

 

[TracyTan866]

There is no point speculating now. In 2016, I will resurrect this thread and we'll see who was right.

good!! but since u chose to use the 60.1%, do you truly believe that's the present support level? don't you know there is a more reliable and current figure?

why be bias? it doesn't speak well of you...hiding behind obsolete figures

 

[enterprise2]

Most Singaporeans r level headed. Only a few like those in this forum r xenophobic!

 

[TracyTan866]

Most Singaporeans r level headed. Only a few like those in this forum r xenophobic!

yes...not many are xenophobic now

 

[Leongsam]

That was the past so there is no point in arguing with Sam.

The data shows otherwise. Singapore has shot ahead of many countries in the last 10 years...

The government has nothing to apologise for. Whatever they're doing it works very well.



http://emergenteconomics.com/2012/03/12/718/

MARCH 12, 2012

tags: Singapore


Just to reinforce how quickly the Singaporean economy has grown, here’s a graph showing GDP per capita since independence in US dollars taking into account inflation and the cost of living. According to these figures Singapore started out as poorer than the world average and overtook Britain in about 1990. The Asian crisis in the late 1990s had a temporary impact, as did the 2008 global financial crisis, but immediately after both these dips the economy resumed its onward march. The steepest part of the whole graph, incredibly, looks like it’s been in the past few years. It’s as if the economy immediately makes up lost ground after each downturn.

GDP per capita, PPP, constant 2000 US$


Data source: World Bank

The right-wing Heritage Foundation, an American think-tank, routinely ranks Singapore as one of the ‘most free’ economies in the world, meaning that public spending appears very low at about 20% of GDP. But this is a superficial reading of the data. If you delve beneath the surface at all, you discover that most land is government-owned and that income from leases go into government coffers. What’s more, super-expensive certificates of entitlement for cars add to government revenues, as do high alcohol and cigarette taxes. A forced savings scheme, the central provident fund, means that government has a ready pool of cash to call upon at cheap rates, and that it doesn’t have to rely so much on the international debt markets. Some commentators have even estimated that public revenues have been as high as 38.5% of GDP, amongst the highest in the world.

The former president, Devan Nair, wrote a book called Socialism That Works: The Singapore Way. In his book A Socialist Economy that Works, the first finance minister wrote: “Taking an overall view of Singapore’s economic policy, we can see how radically it differed from the laissez-faire policies of the colonial era”.

If you actually live in the country you soon discover that not much about the economy is ‘free’, whatever that means. Government linked corporations account for up to half of GDP, and the opaque political system means that Ministers can direct these corporations toward desired strategic areas.

Worth thinking about, in today’s climate of austerity and attempts to shrink government.

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[enterprise2]

yes...not many are xenophobic now

I wouldn't call them xenophobic!! Maybe concerned citizens, critical but certainly not xenophobic.

 

[TracyTan866]

The data shows otherwise. Singapore has shot ahead of many countries in the last 10 years...



http://emergenteconomics.com/2012/03/12/718/

MARCH 12, 2012

tags: Singapore


Just to reinforce how quickly the Singaporean economy has grown, here’s a graph showing GDP per capita since independence in US dollars taking into account inflation and the cost of living. According to these figures Singapore started out as poorer than the world average and overtook Britain in about 1990. The Asian crisis in the late 1990s had a temporary impact, as did the 2008 global financial crisis, but immediately after both these dips the economy resumed its onward march. The steepest part of the whole graph, incredibly, looks like it’s been in the past few years. It’s as if the economy immediately makes up lost ground after each downturn.

GDP per capita, PPP, constant 2000 US$


Data source: World Bank

The right-wing Heritage Foundation, an American think-tank, routinely ranks Singapore as one of the ‘most free’ economies in the world, meaning that public spending appears very low at about 20% of GDP. But this is a superficial reading of the data. If you delve beneath the surface at all, you discover that most land is government-owned and that income from leases go into government coffers. What’s more, super-expensive certificates of entitlement for cars add to government revenues, as do high alcohol and cigarette taxes. A forced savings scheme, the central provident fund, means that government has a ready pool of cash to call upon at cheap rates, and that it doesn’t have to rely so much on the international debt markets. Some commentators have even estimated that public revenues have been as high as 38.5% of GDP, amongst the highest in the world.

The former president, Devan Nair, wrote a book called Socialism That Works: The Singapore Way. In his book A Socialist Economy that Works, the first finance minister wrote: “Taking an overall view of Singapore’s economic policy, we can see how radically it differed from the laissez-faire policies of the colonial era”.

If you actually live in the country you soon discover that not much about the economy is ‘free’, whatever that means. Government linked corporations account for up to half of GDP, and the opaque political system means that Ministers can direct these corporations toward desired strategic areas.

Worth thinking about, in today’s climate of austerity and attempts to shrink government.

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old data. written by someone like you who didn't know Singapore

 

[eErotica69]

Dun agree. A lot of netizens are xenophobic.

 

[TracyTan866]

I wouldn't call them xenophobic!! Maybe concerned citizens, critical but certainly not xenophobic.

I agree. but concerned citizens can turned nasty if pushed to the limits

 

[TracyTan866]

Dun agree. A lot of netizens are xenophobic.

if Singaporeans are xenophobic, things would be very different now

 

[enterprise2]

old data. written by someone like you who didn't know Singapore

Leongsam likes to Google and post his 'facts' to prove his point. But his main purpose is to increase traffic on his forum

 

[Leongsam]

I agree. but concerned citizens can turned nasty if pushed to the limits

Instead of turning nasty, they should look at themselves in the mirror and realise that they only have themselves to blame for their misfortunes.

Singaporeans can learn much from the new arrivals. They should swallow humble pie and strive to be more like the foreigners that now surround them.

 

[gingerlyn]

Leongsam likes to Google and post his 'facts' to prove his point. But his main purpose is to increase traffic on his forum

also to avoid paying sgd50,000 under new MDA rule

 

[TracyTan866]

Leongsam likes to Google and post his 'facts' to prove his point. But his main purpose is to increase traffic on his forum

he doesn't prove anything. if he thinks but posting these "facts" he makes his case, he is wrong.

Thanks for letting me know his real reason..to increase forum traffic!

 

[TracyTan866]

also to avoid paying sgd50,000 under new MDA rule

hahahahaha...thanks

 

[Leongsam]

old data. written by someone like you who didn't know Singapore

Here's the 2012 figures against the historical data.

Since PM Lee took over the helm, Singapore's GDP has almost tripled.

I would like to congratulate PM Lee for doing a fantastic job. He truly is a legend in the making.

 

[Leongsam]

also to avoid paying sgd50,000 under new MDA rule

The MDA can go screw themselves. I don't operate by their rules.

 

[SadPlumpGirl]

A legend indeed. CoE also tripled. Hosuing costs doubled, Food cost quadruple.

Fuck Pap:oIo:

 

[TracyTan866]

Here's the 2012 figures against the historical data.


I would like to congratulate PM Lee for doing a fantastic job. He truly is a legend in the making.

you are digressing...get back to the thread title