WP Press Conference Starts

[kopiuncle]

why reporters like to ask complicated questions - long questions and difficult ones....

LTK did well. LLL did well.

 

[Prometheus888]

i think the PAP must have unleashed some time bomb at their doorstep (aka another AIM "change of management" type of surprise)

We will not know or hear anything about this but I hope LTK with his many able and clever people be able to surmount these odds and overcome. Trust these PAP people to leave nasty surprises and play all their dirtiest tricks.....

 

[LeMans2011]

They gave the impression that they were ill-prepared. SL was the best speaker, LLL seemed overwhelmed. I was suprised LTK asked for the mic and then said the WP would "assist" the govt to work harder. Either he didn't want to gloat and be humble, or he's afraid or sorry that the WP won? He even had a frown on his face throughout the majority of the press conference.

My sense is, there is this solemn and controlled elation in him. As a leader he need to show a lot of restrain and not to show too much of the "triumph" over an SMC win. He obviously understands where his winning votes come from - the middle ground. To show his appreciation to the moderates who have swinged over to WP, he needs to specifically reiterate his stand "Yes, we understand the govt has reviewed some of their policies, but that is still far from what you would expect, and they need to work a lot harder". The statement might not appeal to hardcore opposition supporters but he has to somehow state his stand. I din't get the final question asked but he did a "what do you think?"... TeoCH must be fuming mad

 

[kopiuncle]

i think the PAP must have unleashed some time bomb at their doorstep (aka another AIM "change of management" type of surprise)

We will not know or hear anything about this but I hope LTK with his many able and clever people be able to surmount these odds and overcome. Trust these PAP people to leave nasty surprises and play all their dirtiest tricks.....

I miss CSM at the press conference. I think all his speeches and performance at the WP's rallies were responsible for swinging the votes. He is very impressive when he speaks in mandarin. He should be at the press conference.

 

[SuperMod]

I miss CSM at the press conference. I think all his speeches and performance at the WP's rallies were responsible for swinging the votes. He is very impressive when he speaks in mandarin. He should be at the press conference.

Maybe LTK wanted to show Singaporean he is behind the success of WP ? Do you think LTK is stupid to let CSM have all the credit which he achieved in the past years of fighting ? Politics is a dirty game does not matter if you are from PAP or the opposition party .

 

[kopiuncle]

Maybe LTK wanted to show Singaporean he is behind the success of WP ? Do you think LTK is stupid to let CSM have all the credit which he achieved in the past years of fighting ? Politics is a dirty game does not matter if you are from PAP or the opposition party .

I agree sir. CSM I believe is a pivotal factor in promoting WP and add value and credibility to the party. CSM will eventually take over the leadership. IMHO....

 

[SuperMod]

I agree sir. CSM I believe is a pivotal factor in promoting WP and add value and credibility to the party. CSM will eventually take over the leadership. IMHO....

LTK will not allow it to happen . If LTK continue to hide CSM talents , CSM don't have a chance to appear in public how to take over LTK ?

 

[Fook Seng]

I agree sir. CSM I believe is a pivotal factor in promoting WP and add value and credibility to the party. CSM will eventually take over the leadership. IMHO....

I think CSM only serves the role of a George Yeo. The role of PM I am not sure has already found an owner. LTK is the founder of this movement and I think he is smart enough to look for a worthy successor.

 

[kopiuncle]

LTK will not allow it to happen . If LTK continue to hide CSM talents , CSM don't have a chance to appear in public how to take over LTK ?

I think if LTK continues to down play the role of CSM and if he even marginalises him, there will be an internal conflict and this will split the party. But I hope LTK will be gracious and magnanimous enough to show case CSM and promote him to be his right hand man with Sylvia Lim as the left hand lady. The three of them together form a formidable force - the WP TRIAD!..And with new blood ,like that Dr Goh, WP will do well in the GE in 2016. But it must continue to maintain its good image and adding more professionals into its rank.

PAP has to do a lot of soul searching...and I am quite sure before the GE 2016, there might be more BE too...So the battle is on going and there is no complacency at all. Again, there are some irresisitible and natural forces that propel a society which are unstoppable. Nature will take its course. MAJULAH SINGAPURA!!!

 

[Logisex]

They gave the impression that they were ill-prepared. SL was the best speaker, LLL seemed overwhelmed. I was suprised LTK asked for the mic and then said the WP would "assist" the govt to work harder. Either he didn't want to gloat and be humble, or he's afraid or sorry that the WP won? He even had a frown on his face throughout the majority of the press conference.

That's what I was talking about and and I was shocked and disappointed that LTK said he will assist the govt to work harder. It really undermines their position and shows a lack of confidence as the dominant and only opposition party in parliament. Sylvia also said something that they are still a small party in parliament - a factual statement but it somehow give me the impression that she is indirectly telling the people not to expect too much from them. Its just my impressions and I might be digging too deep into their statements.

 

[Logisex]

Didn't you know that LLL had to rush back to the HQ and had just made it on time for the conference and they were able to announce so many things including the first MPS in just a week's time together with the info on the venue showed that it was very well organized. On the other hand, I find the PAP's conference very ordinary. My original impression here and in past elections, CNA seemed always to want to give PAP the earlier and longer broadcast time even when they were the loser, even when the winner would be making their thank you speeches on site. This sounded very odd to me, focussing on the loser instead of the winner, a sour loser feeling. WP must have noted this trend and therefore move their press conference to their own office where they have their backdrop properly set up.

WP set up the press conference in their HQ and they know they have a very high chance of winning so they should have been more prepared. In fact all theses should have been rehearsed before polling day. CNA had to keep repeating the PAP press conference and interview that expert while waiting for the WP conference to start.
What do you expect PAP to say after a bad loss?

 

[Fook Seng]

I think if LTK continues to down play the role of CSM and if he even marginalises him, there will be an internal conflict and this will split the party. But I hope LTK will be gracious and magnanimous enough to show case CSM and promote him to be his right hand man with Sylvia Lim as the left hand lady. The three of them together form a formidable force - the WP TRIAD!..And with new blood ,like that Dr Goh, WP will do well in the GE in 2016. But it must continue to maintain its good image and adding more professionals into its rank.

PAP has to do a lot of soul searching...and I am quite sure before the GE 2016, there might be more BE too...So the battle is on going and there is no complacency at all. Again, there are some irresisitible and natural forces that propel a society which are unstoppable. Nature will take its course. MAJULAH SINGAPURA!!!

I don't think it has anything to do with LTK but CSM himself. Despite his professional experience, academic achievements and intellect, he is still very much a political novice. Compare his rally speeches with speeches delivered in more formal setting like the parliament which is a similar setting to what he often delivered presentations to in his professional career. To me CSM is a reserved and shy person. And he has to overcome that and raise his profile.

 

[Travellor]

You want them to commit suicide? WP plays well as a chess player. You don't sacrfice your rooks and bishops

I think that is a good strategy. if you pit a team of Chen show mao and Sylvia lim against Lim swee say and his team of iforgettheirnames, you say that East Coast GRC won't be lost to the WP??

i say, Lim Swee Say better start crying in eternal gratefulness at his CPF statements "monthly" after that man......There are enough fed up people in the East Coast to sink LSS' ship. Moreover, we have to see how they split up Joo chiat when they dissolve it. the portions which end up in East Coast GRc might weigh down the odds for the PAP...or worse because GCT is no longer running in MP GRC then, that might become a ripe target for the opposition too esp if the odds are being altered with the absorption of Joo Chiat into it....hahahahaha I really dont envy the gerrymanderers in the PAP, either way they die......

 

[Travellor]

That's what I was talking about and and I was shocked and disappointed that LTK said he will assist the govt to work harder. It really undermines their position and shows a lack of confidence as the dominant and only opposition party in parliament. Sylvia also said something that they are still a small party in parliament - a factual statement but it somehow give me the impression that she is indirectly telling the people not to expect too much from them. Its just my impressions and I might be digging too deep into their statements.

i think to underpromise and overdeliver must always be a good strategy.....

 

[glockman]

That's what I was talking about and and I was shocked and disappointed that LTK said he will assist the govt to work harder. It really undermines their position and shows a lack of confidence as the dominant and only opposition party in parliament. Sylvia also said something that they are still a small party in parliament - a factual statement but it somehow give me the impression that she is indirectly telling the people not to expect too much from them. Its just my impressions and I might be digging too deep into their statements.

Someone posted a link to this article elsewhere in this forum. So we now know why he behaved the way he did at the press conference.
http://www.singapolitics.sg/news/low-dont-take-election-result-sign-future-trend

LTK is saying people should not take the by-election result as sign of future trend. Agrees that there was the By-Election effect, repeated that the PAP is competent and that the WP is not ready to form an alternative government. He has taken the WP so far, with his friendly and non-threatening politics. Moving forward, will he sabotage the WP in future elections? Self-checking and self-censoring to the point of suicide? I don't think his seemingly nice guy and "PAP is alright" attitude is what the electorate wants in the medium and long term, because someone needs to take over from the PAP. The PAP will not change. I hope the WP will.

 

[Fook Seng]

That's what I was talking about and and I was shocked and disappointed that LTK said he will assist the govt to work harder. It really undermines their position and shows a lack of confidence as the dominant and only opposition party in parliament. Sylvia also said something that they are still a small party in parliament - a factual statement but it somehow give me the impression that she is indirectly telling the people not to expect too much from them. Its just my impressions and I might be digging too deep into their statements.

What LTK had said about assisting the govt and Sylvia about being a small party are done deliberately. You think those were unprepared slips of the tongue statements? Those were prepared snippets pulled out at the right moment to send the right messages particularly to the middle ground swing voters.

The reason why WP is able to gain support of the middle ground is in fact this reassurance that it will not rock the boat, only criticize govt policies and plans where these fall short. Of course, it has to help the government to set things right. You mean they should obstruct the government from doing its job? In fact it is this reassurance that they will not destroy the government, the only one that we have in any electoral term, that they have gained swing votes from the middle ground.

Do you think that putting up alternative plans in parliament will get these adopted in parliament? Unless you have enough seats to challenge and your plans have sufficient merit and depth to convince some ruling party members to vote for them, likely these will be good just for target practice. I have to admit that, so far, I am not impressed with any of these. Don't deceive yourself. This is not to say they should not make more noise in parliament. They should. Let us see how this AIM thing will flare up.

It is easy for supporters, whether WP or SDP, to carry flags or banners and shout slogans but to lead a party to achieve success you need a long term strategy, hard work and cunning. LTK has it in him. That is why some forummers call him the wiry fox.

 

[Fook Seng]

WP set up the press conference in their HQ and they know they have a very high chance of winning so they should have been more prepared. In fact all theses should have been rehearsed before polling day. CNA had to keep repeating the PAP press conference and interview that expert while waiting for the WP conference to start.
What do you expect PAP to say after a bad loss?

Wow. Now we have to thank CNA for accommodating WP to give them time to prepare their press conference in their HQ. Wouldn't having it on site cut short the time it takes to get the press conference up and running instead of doing it at their HQ if it was just WP taking the time? If CNA had the intention to give the winner the priority of exposure, shouldn't they at least allow a simple word of thank you before launching into a press conference later.

If you have observed in past elections, in particularly the general elections, order in the announcement of results was tweaked to gain maximum publicity for the ruling party. When they should announced the win to give them the simple majority to form the govt or the win in the PM's ward to allow him to continue as PM etc?

 

[steffychun]

KNN, KEE CHIU excuse wear badge issit? KNOCK IT DOWN

Yeah man why our esteemed paper general is not wearing the lightning badge? And the fake rear admiral never discipline him?

 

[steffychun]

I think that is a good strategy. if you pit a team of Chen show mao and Sylvia lim against Lim swee say and his team of iforgettheirnames, you say that East Coast GRC won't be lost to the WP??

i say, Lim Swee Say better start crying in eternal gratefulness at his CPF statements "monthly" after that man......There are enough fed up people in the East Coast to sink LSS' ship. Moreover, we have to see how they split up Joo chiat when they dissolve it. the portions which end up in East Coast GRc might weigh down the odds for the PAP...or worse because GCT is no longer running in MP GRC then, that might become a ripe target for the opposition too esp if the odds are being altered with the absorption of Joo Chiat into it....hahahahaha I really dont envy the gerrymanderers in the PAP, either way they die......

WP's key success is playing it careful. That how they got Aljunied in 2011. Hit the tennis ball to hard and you get no points

 

[steffychun]

Someone posted a link to this article elsewhere in this forum. So we now know why he behaved the way he did at the press conference.
http://www.singapolitics.sg/news/low-dont-take-election-result-sign-future-trend

LTK is saying people should not take the by-election result as sign of future trend. Agrees that there was the By-Election effect, repeated that the PAP is competent and that the WP is not ready to form an alternative government. He has taken the WP so far, with his friendly and non-threatening politics. Moving forward, will he sabotage the WP in future elections? Self-checking and self-censoring to the point of suicide? I don't think his seemingly nice guy and "PAP is alright" attitude is what the electorate wants in the medium and long term, because someone needs to take over from the PAP. The PAP will not change. I hope the WP will.

As i said elsewhere, I can't see a post-Low WP yet. Low is a nice leader, but yes not up to taking the WP into a governing government yet.