• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Wither USA!

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
China is expected to overtake USA as the world's biggest economy by 2016.

Russia and China are growing closer and stepping up co-operation.

USA has a debt of US$16trillion.

USA is in decline.

Singapore, under the pap, is sucking up to USA for the last 45years.

Will the PAP wither when USA withers?

2016 seems an inauspicious year for USA and the PAP
 
Last edited:

Hawkeye1819

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
World's biggest economy means jackshit. China is not a naval power yet. For the next 20 years they will be focussed on protecting the borderlands and on income disparity causing massive social instability. Don't worry a thing. The Americans will still be calling the shots.


China is expect to overtake USA as the world's biggest economy b 2016.

Russia and China are growing closer and stepping up co-operation.

USA has a debt of US$16trillion.

USA is in decline.

Singapore, under the pap, is sucking up to USA for the last 45years.

Will the PAPwither when USA withers?

2016 seems an inauspicious year for USA and the PAP
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
World's biggest economy means jackshit. China is not a naval power yet. For the next 20 years they will be focussed on protecting the borderlands and on income disparity causing massive social instability. Don't worry a thing. The Americans will still be calling the shots.

quite true...but do you see a USA in decline?
 

Grago

Alfrescian
Loyal
quite true...but do you see a USA in decline?

it took the Roman Empire 1000yrs depending on what the source of the Infor. is, to collapse!! I do not see this to be the case with the USA. The dynamics involved now is totally different from when the Roman Empire existed and collapsed. So to answer your question, If ever, the USA is not a Declining power, and I shudder to think otherwise!
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
it took the Roman Empire 1000yrs depending on what the source of the Infor. is, to collapse!! I do not see this to be the case with the USA. The dynamics involved now is totally different from when the Roman Empire existed and collapsed. So to answer your question, If ever, the USA is not a Declining power, and I shudder to think otherwise!

good analysis..i hope you are right, but i do see the usa in decline both economically and politically
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
As George Friedman says, deep power does not dissipate that easily. I'd be more worried about the adventurism of our two neighbours.

quite true.....but USA is facing challenges on the economic, geo political and military fronts.

It has to face a resurgent China, a notorious N Korea, uncertain Middle East, its own economic uncertainties, etc.
 

Einfield

Alfrescian
Loyal
If US decline, it will drag everyone along, so not even China wish for that to happen, at least not in the near future, till today, All attempts to unseat the US$ failed.


quite true.....but USA is facing challenges on the economic, geo political and military fronts.

It has to face a resurgent China, a notorious N Korea, uncertain Middle East, its own economic uncertainties, etc.
 

Hawkeye1819

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
quite true.....but USA is facing challenges on the economic, geo political and military fronts.

It has to face a resurgent China, a notorious N Korea, uncertain Middle East, its own economic uncertainties, etc.


Those are small matters. Watch Russia pull Ukraine and others into its orbit. That will be the battle stage for the next 2 decades. A rematch of the cold war. Stay tuned!
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
If US decline, it will drag everyone along, so not even China wish for that to happen, at least not in the near future, till today, All attempts to unseat the US$ failed.

Quite true..but the past may not be agood predictor of the future.

The USA has manipulated the UN, World Bank, IMF etc for the past 40years and they have incurred many countries hatred and disdain.

Countries like Cuba, Venezula, N Korea . Iran, Iraq, etc hate the USA and will celebrate shd the USA fall. The fall of USA may not be imminent but may be sooner than what many people thought. With its economic problems and China/Russia on good terms...it is hard to predict USA's future.
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The modern chess game is played differently.

I agree...the future will not be dictated by the USA.

SG and LKY have been kowtowing to the USA for the past 40years, incurring the dislike of our neighbours. If USA's glory dims, SG will suffer collateral damage
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Those are small matters. Watch Russia pull Ukraine and others into its orbit. That will be the battle stage for the next 2 decades. A rematch of the cold war. Stay tuned!

Agree...the resurgence of USSR?

and with China on Russia's side and western europe in chaos, USA can be in deep trouble.

Will USA's sixth fleet and seven fleet be able to do its job?
 

Hawkeye1819

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Agree...the resurgence of USSR?

and with China on Russia's side and western europe in chaos, USA can be in deep trouble.

Will USA's sixth fleet and seven fleet be able to do its job?


The US's strength lies not just in its naval power, but also its ability to maintain a balance of power between conflicting countries either through enforcing peace, or instigating war. George Bush Jr was a bad president because he failed in that respect. Let's see if the one after Obama will do a better job.
 

Hawkeye1819

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
The USA has manipulated the UN, World Bank, IMF etc for the past 40years and they have incurred many countries hatred and disdain.

Countries like Cuba, Venezula, N Korea . Iran, Iraq, etc hate the USA and will celebrate shd the USA fall. The fall of USA may not be imminent but may be sooner than what many people thought. With its economic problems and China/Russia on good terms...it is hard to predict USA's future.


Yes you are spot on about the UN, WB, IMF, etc being american proxies. And the hatred part is real. But when it comes down to the crunch, political leaders base their decision on cold hard economics. Sorry, in this world money talks and bullshit walks.
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
The US's strength lies not just in its naval power, but also its ability to maintain a balance of power between conflicting countries either through enforcing peace, or instigating war. George Bush Jr was a bad president because he failed in that respect. Let's see if the one after Obama will do a better job.

good points...thanks.

but from what's happening, USA may be affected more by external factors. If the next President to be elected 2016 is weak , it will accelerate the decline of the usa.
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Yes you are spot on about the UN, WB, IMF, etc being american proxies. And the hatred part is real. But when it comes down to the crunch, political leaders base their decision on cold hard economics. Sorry, in this world money talks and bullshit walks.

Agree...but China is becoming more confident, is getting richer and is reaching out to asian and african countries. In contrast, USA allies are faltering. The fortunes have reversed
 

TracyTan866

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Yes you are spot on about the UN, WB, IMF, etc being american proxies. And the hatred part is real. But when it comes down to the crunch, political leaders base their decision on cold hard economics. Sorry, in this world money talks and bullshit walks.

The pap has to learn from what is happening to the USA.

The pap learnt from the USA and manipulated the PA, Elections Dept, gerrymandered for the past 40years.

The USA's policies are failing. Likewise the pap's policies are failing too
 
Top