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Why no dual citizenship for Singaporeans?
- Thread starter SgGoneWrong
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Due to selfish and self-preservation reasons, it may be difficult to find people coming fwd and admit they have been given a renewal while holding another passport. Because they already have got it, why tempt fate by making it public?
On the other hand, it may be easier to hear from those who got rejected for a renewed passport or asked to surrender one of them. We also have not heard such cases.
As I have said, I met mothers in flesh and blood, who had no reservations whatsoever to reveal to me. The key thing here is not to lie and also to be sure the people affected are free of NS obligations.
On the other hand, it may be easier to hear from those who got rejected for a renewed passport or asked to surrender one of them. We also have not heard such cases.
As I have said, I met mothers in flesh and blood, who had no reservations whatsoever to reveal to me. The key thing here is not to lie and also to be sure the people affected are free of NS obligations.
Well, no wonder no country including Singapore wants you, just fuck back to Malaysia.
there is a way to keep dual citizenship and while their kids will not serve any pathetic sinkie NS..i salute these people and well done..keep it up!!
Disagree. Ah Tiongs, Ah Nehs and Pinoys routinely declare on their application forms they do not hold foreign passports when applying for Sinkie ones. I have friends who have done it and got away with it.
Malu Money's sons, even though they have served NS, have dual citizenship.
A child who is born overseas, with a Singaporean parent (previously only through his or her father) may apply for SG citizenship by descent.
But by age 21, he or she must choose to retain or renounce SG citizenship.
For a male child, if he does not serve his full time NS, it appears unlikely that he can retain SG citizenship. (my son who is not required to register for NS yet, is probably going to renounce SG citizenship, because he has never resided in SG, and is unlikely to return just to serve NS).
Your statement may apply to a foreign born female, who may choose not to renounce SG citizenship.
However, the SG government is probably going to ask her to renounce her foreign citizenship before they allow her to retain SG citizenship.
I have heard that for Canada, even if the individual renounces his or her citizenship, he or she can re-acquire Canadian citizenship.
Our children are relatively young, and not close to 18 (NS) or 21 (to have to renounce SG citizenship), and accordingly, we will decide and know at that time.
Children are allowed to have more than one passport without being asked to choose.
or worse their gov can coerce dual passport holder to give them singapore defence secret.
personally i would not trust malaysian with big cars and big house in malaysia, while working in singapore in their whole adult life with state secret.
I know quite a few Singaporeans with 2 passports.
A word of advice: if you hold 2 passports, use your Singapore passport when you enter leave Singapore Immigration.
Disagree. You're better off declaring that you don't hold another passport.
I agree with you to use the Singapore pp when entering or leaving S'pore, but if you make a false declaration, they can catch you on the technicality. Renewing yr pp despite you declaring you have another is a discretionary process, so dont give them excuse to deny you one.
Up to age 21 only. After that, they need to choose which passport to keep and which passport to give up.
If they want to catch you on that technicality, they'll have to first check with the embassies of more than a hundred nations to find out if you have a 2nd pp. Doable, but an utter waste of manpower and taxpayers' money.
In which case whether you declare or not doesn't make any difference, if the authorities are hell-bent on hammering you with the letter of the law:
a. Declare, and they'll (after confirming your citizenship with the other country) demand that you renounce one pp.
b. Don't declare and they'll have to do an exhaustive search to make sure you don't have a 2nd pp, and then ask you to renounce if they do discover a 2nd pp.
Option (b) makes more sense because your chances of getting caught are so much lower. Just don't brag about your 2nd pp to all and sundry.
If you declare truthfully and they renew yr pp, you have walked away free of encumberances and hassle. The next renewal may be easier.
If you dont, you will always enter and leave with a Damocles sword over yr head. If caught you can get convicted, whereas possessing a second pp is not criminalised.
It's like bringing a durian into the MRT. It is not an criminal offence, altho they will ask you and escort you to leave the station or train and remove it if you are found.
If you dont, you will always enter and leave with a Damocles sword over yr head. If caught you can get convicted, whereas possessing a second pp is not criminalised.
It's like bringing a durian into the MRT. It is not an criminal offence, altho they will ask you and escort you to leave the station or train and remove it if you are found.
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That is, if you get it renewed in the first place if you declare you own a 2nd pp. Highly unlikely, since it would be a dereliction of duty for an immigration officer to knowingly issue a S'pore passport to dual citizenship holder – this is an act of commission. On the other hand, closing one eye and not checking on an ordinary person's declared single citizenship status is an act of omission.
Even if you're caught making a false declaration, it's not a criminal offence. You'll just get your citizenship revoked at the very worst.
Good point but in reality, how many countries will a Singaporean get a second passport from? The popular countries less than 5, all in possible countries, less than maybe 10 countries. It is not that difficult for them to call and check, if they suspect you have a second passport!
And if they suspect you, they call you in and lim kopi. Assuming you have passport from Zimbabwe, a country they would not have guess, they don't need to ask which country you have a second passport, they will asked where have you been residing in the past x years? If you answer truthfully, they will check with that country if you have citizenship there... If you lie, they check with your bluff country, and they will check and that country will say they don't have any record of you residing there, again you are in hot soup!
Agree. Need to declare truthfully. Once a false declaration is made, a lot of troubles ahead, all for just a second passport.
