Chitchat What happened in Saudi Arabia in the last 3 days ?

scroobal · Dec 26, 2017

Israel romance with the wider World ended in 1982 with the saturation bombing of Beirut during its siege of the city and the refusal of the youngest Colonel in the IDF and commander of the lead Armoured Regiment to attack the city as he saw kids thru his binoculars. He repeatedly refused Ariel Sharon and PM Menachim Begin orders on moral grounds. The massacre of Shatila and Sabra refugee campaigns sealed their fate.

The overwhelming Jerusalem vote against and with 7 votes from unheard countries confirms it. 25 years later nothing has changed.

They are master of battle front tactics but poor strategist of the end game.

whoami said:
Hopless case. Head or tail Israel still get her way/trophy.

JohnTan · Dec 26, 2017

whoami said:
Hopless case. Head or tail Israel still get her way/trophy.

Jerusalem is not a trophy for Israel. Jerusalem is home. Jerusalem is their capital. There is a very ancient phrase used by exiled Jews for hundreds of years, "Next year in Jerusalem".

To muslims, Jerusalem is a trophy. Nothing more.

There is no mention of Jerusalem in the quran. Muslims want jerusalem only because of its significance to Jews and Christians. Muslims are behaving like some bratty kid with a shiny toy. If others want it, the bratty kid will scream and demand that it is his. Once others are not interested, the bratty kid will chuck it aside.

Jersualem was under muslim rule for hundreds of years. It was never a capital city, never an important trading city. Muslims only treasure jerusalem when they see others placing taking interest in it.

Muslims only claim jerusalem is holy because they build a shrine in it, to give them some foothold to squabble with others.

gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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Israeli news have reported that the Japanese Foreign Minister suggested to Netanyahu in their meeting yesterday to attend a summit in Tokyo attended by Abbas and Jeff Kushner, Netanyahu expressed willingness in principle but said the condition for his participation is a positive response from the White House.

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As the U.S. recedes, other powers including China, Russia and Iran are eagerly stepping into the void.

One significant issue is the visible gap between the president and many of his top national security advisors.

Trump “needs a strong State Department to implement” its strategy, he said. “Instead, State and the Foreign Service are being weakened and often sidelined.”

Regional leaders and analysts also say that for all of Trump’s tough rhetoric, they see few concrete steps by the U.S. to counter Iran’s steady expansion of its military, economic and political influence, a perception that Iranian leaders are happy to exploit.

“Trump is ranting and making empty threats,” said Hamid Reza Taraghi, a conservative Iranian politician with close ties to Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. “Russia, China and Iran are gaining ground in the Middle East, and America is losing ground and influence.”

That view is also shared by Iranian moderates, with whom the Obama administration thought it could work.

“The reality on the ground in the Middle East is that the American administration has failed to form an efficient coalition against its self-proclaimed enemies,” said Nader Karimi Juni, an independent Iranian analyst who writes for reformist dailies and magazines.

“Now Russia is celebrating its victory in Syria, and America is watching as an onlooker,” Juni said.

But even there, officials say they worry that Trump’s bellicose rhetoric will strengthen China’s status as a power broker.

gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

"Let it be known to the king that the Jews... have come to Jerusalem, the rebellious and sinful city they are building, and the walls they have completed... We make known to the king that if this city is built, and its walls founded, because of this you will have nothing to do with us anymore"...
That was the then 'UN resolution' (in Book of Ezra) against handing over Jerusalem to the Jews by Persian king Cyrus!

gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 26, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 27, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 27, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 28, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 28, 2017

"In its determination to secure a nuclear deal with Iran, the Obama administration derailed an ambitious law enforcement campaign targeting drug trafficking by the Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah, even as it was funneling cocaine into the United States, according to a POLITICO investigation."

27. So please just one clear cut well documented example that proves the first sentence in your article. END