Was Jesus born on Christmas 25th Dec?

[Toronto]

When Constantine created the "Universal Church" to unite Europe he took parts of all local religions and convinced everyone (sometimes at the point of a sword) that their religion fit perfectly. The Winter Festival of Nordic religions was the time for rebirth since they were able to detect that the Sun had started north again. It was the first that they were able to notice that the midday shadow was starting to get shorter. Constantine claimed that Christmas was the day that Jesus was born and since nobody was smart enough to contradict, they all went along.

 

[M8SSL0TS]

Jesus is a fiction of man's imagination!

 

[Toronto]

Jesus is a fiction of man's imagination!

If he did exist we can make deduction about his appearance based on his ethnicity.

If churches are honest and replaced the angmo looking image with the one on the left, many non-angmo believers would not be converted.

 

[Toronto]

The real (pagan) meaning of Christmas Day

[video=youtube;wAYJ0esqafg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYJ0esqafg[/video]

 

[Toronto]

The Hidden Meaning of Christmas - Dead of the Sun for 3 days and resurrected on 25th Dec

[video=youtube;3ih2VYnMUz4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ih2VYnMUz4[/video]

 

[Toronto]

God Son/Sun with his 12 faithful monthly followers:

Since the Earth experienced 4 different seasons, all the same and equal (in time) each year, the round Sun calendar was divided into 4 equal parts. This is also why we have, in the Bible, only 4 Gospels.

The 4 Gospels represent the four 4 seasons which collectively tell the entire story of the life of God's 'Sun'. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John are Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter. This is why the famous painting of "The Last Supper" pictures the 12 followers of the Sun in four groups (of three) ... the seasons!

 

[Toronto]

On the round surface of the yearly calendar, you can draw a straight line directly across the middle, cutting the circle in half... one end being the point of the winter solstice; the other end being the point of the summer solstice. Then you can draw another straight line (crossing the first one); one end of the new line being the spring equinox; the other end being the autumn equinox.


You now have the starting points for each of the 4 seasons. This is referred to by all major encyclopedias and reference works, both ancient and modern, as "The Cross of the Zodiac"

Thus, the life of God's 'Sun' is on "the Cross". This is why we see the round circle of the Sun on the crosses of Christian churches. The next time you pass a Christian church, look for the circle (God's Sun) on the cross.


The Sun, since the first day of summer, has each day been moving southward, and stops when it reaches its lowest point in the Northern Hemispheric sky (December 22nd - our winter solstice).

At this lowest point, the Sun stops its journey southward. For three days, December 22nd, 23rd , and 24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal (declination) degree.


This is the only time in the year that the Sun actually stops its movement Northward or Southward in our sky. On the morning of December 25th the Sun moves one degree northward beginning its annual journey back to us in the Northern Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring. Anything steadily moving all year long that suddenly stops moving for three days was considered to have died.


Therefore, God's Sun who was dead for three days, moves one-degree Northward on December 25th beginning its annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere. The Sun is symbolically ....BORN AGAIN. And to this day, His worshippers still celebrate His BIRTHDAY!.... Merry Christmas or should be winter solstice-

 

[Toronto]

The Sun Cross:

 

[Toronto]

Jesus(God's Sun): "I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, and no man comes to the Father except through me", or one comes to God Only by the Light of Truth.

 

[Toronto]

Jesus is claimed to be the "Sun of Righteousness" in the Old Testament book of Malachi 4:2: "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings."

 

[Toronto]

The trinity of Sun:

The three stages of the life of the Sun.

1. New Born Savior at dawn.
2. Mature, full-grown (The Most High) at 12 (High) noon.
3. Old and dying, at the end of day (going back to The Father).

 

[Conqueror]

12 Is The Perfect Number For God Not 10

Conqueror had been analyzing and guessing this issue for some time a few years ago.

The ancient Roman uses 10 months for their calendar. To the Romans, 10 was a complete number. I think they probably use the base 10 in accordance to the total number of fingers and thumbs that we have for calculation.

But, 12 was the perfect number for God instead. 12 is divisible to most numbers like cutting a round cake. 12 can be divided by 2,3,4,6,12 compared to just 2,5,10.


The world uses the Roman format of 1 and 5 for their denomination for cash. I find this is wrong.

1,5,10,50,100,500,1000

As you can visibly see this ratio isn't balanced.


And I see that the scientific denomination of 1 and 3 is more balanced. And how do I know ?

x/1 = 10/x

When 10 square root of 3 is slightly more than 3.


Your anologue ampmeter and voltmeter use this format:

1,3,10,30,100,300,1000, etc.

This more balanced than the Roman method.


The ancient Israel was divided into 12 tribes. To God, 12 is a complete number, not base 10. The world use base 10 and the digital world, base 2.

This is just my estimation.

 

[Toronto]

Re: 12 Is The Perfect Number For God Not 10

The ancient Israel was divided into 12 tribes. To God, 12 is a complete number, not base 10.

You omitted the 13th tribe -the gentile believers including yourself!

 

[Toronto]

Re: 12 Is The Perfect Number For God Not 10

One of the 12 sons of Jacob was not assigned land, so the land of ancient Israel was actually divided into 11 sections, not 12.

 

[Conqueror]

The 13th Warrior

You omitted the 13th tribe -the gentile believers including yourself!

The 13th tribe is more like a split from the 12th tribe. Joseph became Manasseh (12a, eldest son) and Ephraim (12b).

Joe wanted Ephraim to take over his banner (the first born inheritance) and leaving Manasseh ... I don't know whether God heeded his request.

But, Manasseh became so huge that his daughter asked Joshua for more land. Manasseh was INDEED blessed because they had a DOUBLE inheritance (two sites).

If the Levites were given a piece of land, then there should be 14 portions in total instead.

After leaving the Levites without a land to till but to work for God in the temple, the total is still 13 portions of land and 13 tribes in total because Joseph alone already has 3 portions.

 

[Toronto]

Re: 12 Is The Perfect Number For God Not 10

But, 12 was the perfect number for God instead. 12 is divisible to most numbers like cutting a round cake. 12 can be divided by 2,3,4,6,12 compared to just 2,5,10.

Overwhelming evidences to prove that Christianity was plagiarised from judaism and other ancient surrounding pagan religions::


HORUS>
Egypt-3000BC
BORN OF A VIRGIN
BORN ON DEC 25TH
STAR IN THE EAST
TEACHER AT 12
ADORED BY 3 KINGS
BAPTIZED/MINISTRY AT 30
12 DISCIPLES
PERFORMED MIRACLES
DEAD FOR 3 DAYS
RESURRECTED
‘SUNDAY’ WORSHIP

MITHRA>
Persia-1200BC
BORN OF A VIRGIN
BORN ON DEC 25TH
12 DISCIPLES
PERFORMED MIRACLES
DEAD FOR 3 DAYS
RESURRECTED
‘SUNDAY’ WORSHIP

DIONYSUS>
Greece-500BC
BORN OF A VIRGIN
BORN ON DEC 25TH
“KING OF KINGS”
“ALPHA AND OMEGA”

 

[Toronto]

But, Manasseh became so huge that his daughter asked Joshua for more land.

The idea of an Israelite conquest of Canaan - the story of the book of Joshua - was not supported by the archaeological record. Some episodes presented in the Biblical narrative are perhaps true, but due to later scribal, theologically themed editing, much of what eventually came to be accepted as fact is rather a collection of fabrications meant to serve as monotheistic 'Judahite' propaganda.

To counter this, it was proposed that the main biblical idea was still correct, but the Israelites simply entered Canaan peacefully instead of through conquest. Today this compromise has been completely abandoned by any of the Biblical narrative 'dissenters', and the Israelites are interpreted by them to be indigenous Canaanites.

Given 100 years of excavations there is simply not enough evidence to back up various Biblical claims, taking into consideration as well that in Mesopatamia during the same amount of time, whole cities and libraries have been unearthed, providing a tremendous amount of information for scholars, the type of which is present only in paltry amounts in what was known as Canaan.

For the dissenters, the revision of Israelite origins has implications for Israelite religion: whereas the Bible had depicted them as monotheists from the beginning, the new understanding is that they were polytheists who harboured a small and ultimately successful group of monotheistic revolutionaries.

 

[Toronto]

May both your Hebrew god and Sun god really bless you in the new year 2013-

 

[Gerard90]

Jesus was not born on the 25th of December. It is a pagan holiday to celebrate the winter solstice and this idea was reinforced by the government during that era to help people to be accustomed to Christianity. Then, Martin Luther King encouraged christians to celebrate Christmas, thinking that it was literally Jesus's birthday. However, to answer the original question, Jesus was born most likely on dates ranging from late March to early April.

 

[Toronto]

The original date of the celebration in Eastern Christianity was January 6