hahaha.....vw was praised to the sky in this forum.
however what he did showed that he is just another kukubird material......lol.
however what he did showed that he is just another kukubird material......lol.
same can be said of pap - they committing harakiri over the years more than the opposition. there is already a viable opposition poised to take over and they should - wp.
hahaha.....vw was praised to the sky in this forum.
however what he did showed that he is just another kukubird material......lol.
same can be said of pap - they committing harakiri over the years more than the opposition. there is already a viable opposition poised to take over and they should - wp.
hahaha....clueless???Another clueless chap. Already explained extensively here and in other threads that an apology to the PAP means nothing ... zero ... zilch. Only an uneducated person will think lesser of someone who was forced under threat of a lawsuit to apologize to the PAP.
Its the overall pattern of behaviour that counts .... is that chap matured, responsible, savvy, has the right values, etc.
hahaha.....vw was praised to the sky in this forum.
however what he did showed that he is just another kukubird material......lol.
Quite a silly mistake if you ask me. Its not as if he doesnt know CSJ quotes are like land mines. He is from SDP somemore.
VW's ego is getting to big liao.
This is what worries me. VW is making his first stumble. It's a kind of hubris to be carried away by your own rhetoric that sometimes lay yourself open to mistakes like that. Despite it being a distant point, Vasoo has his rights too, and he has chosen to react - VW has pushed it too far. I wont say the point is immaterial or inconsequential - how Chee fell was a lever in Wijey's arguments, and by demolishing this point, it can disrupt VW's momentum. VW just has to be more careful. As it is, it was careless. He mounted the attack in a Truth or Dare moment, and Vasoo has taken it.
upon reflection, may i share the following:
VB preached himself happy ... The part on Vasoo, purely casual and 'along the way by the way'?
maybe, maybe not.
Good device to test: if no hoo haa from establishment, yes, another small pushing back of OB markers;
But in this instance, the Pavlov reaction from the Estab: cease & decease, do the following or else be sued!
Is anyone seriously surprised?
I am bemused witnessing the finesse and nimbleness of the active participants in the field, or the lackof.
ok ok to be fair, in varying degrees, there is something for all to learn
same can be said of pap - they committing harakiri over the years more than the opposition. there is already a viable opposition poised to take over and they should - wp.
Who the fuck is Vasoo? I only know vaseline? Is it worldclass known? Whitney Houston I know but who the fuck is Vasoo? Is it a cheap rip off of vaseline?
Had someone suggest that SDP was trying to bait Vasoo because they know that he will bite. But I felt that VW's article was too emotional to give credence to that view.
I sense that you are right but it would have been tactical to use a proxy rather than VW. Classical example is our PM. He uses WKS and TCH to do all the sabre rattling, then emerges long after the dust settled to preach reconciliation etc.
Threatening your opponent and forcing him to apologize still works in this day and age unfortunately. If it didn't work, Vasoo and PAP wouldn't have tried this latest gimmick.
Another clueless chap. Already explained extensively here and in other threads that an apology to the PAP means nothing ... zero ... zilch. Only an uneducated person will think lesser of someone who was forced under threat of a lawsuit to apologize to the PAP.
Who the fuck is Vasoo? I only know vaseline? Is it worldclass known? Whitney Houston I know but who the fuck is Vasoo? Is it a cheap rip off of vaseline?
VW acted solo. He was not backed by SDP. He knows that the Vasoo remark was a costly and ironic mistake.
VW is at a juncture where he has critical choices to make. As you have said it, a fork in the road. Let's hope he makes the right one. He is much too savvy to bring harm to SDP, but his extremely principled nature will get in the way of being a politician. Politics is compromise and sacrifice and then even more compromise. This is not a game for the free-wheeling or the fancy-free liberal.
It is just a little saga here, don't read too much into it.
The PAP's mode of operations has changed subtly. They will not sue as long as you put up a little apology... they won't be able to do anything if they don't even know who you are... just like Scroobal and Real Singaporean.... or that, they won't bother to find out and just simply use that as an excuse not to take any action.... they could possibly find out who Scroobal or those behind Real Singaporean... in fact, I think they know who Scroobal is already, but they didn't sue.
It is just a moderated political posture... just to make a point that they value their reputation and they are maligned on the internet. They couldn't possibly sue so many people on the internet, can they? For people who claim that VW will "lose credibility" due to this incident, that's really insane. Well, do you think Scroobal has lost all his credibility here just because Shanmugam threaten to sue him?
Hardball politics is really out of fashion, out of date nowadays. GE 2011 changed it all... or rather, I would say GE 2006 has started to change that; well, did they sue James Gomez back in post GE2006 for "Criminal Intimidation" or "Criminal Defamation"? Nope. PAP is not filled with stupid fools, guys! They have realized that the era of hardball politics has passed. The Hougang By-elections has confirmed and cast this mantra in stone... Hardball is Deadball!
So relax lah. It is just a stir in the cup... not even a storm. VW has a bright future ahead, press on.
Goh Meng Seng