[Vid] Malay girl refuses to wear Tudung, is furious when she found out that Islam doesn't require wearing it, it's just stupid Malay societal pressure

[True Believer]

It is extremely difficult to see attractive Malay girls in S'pore anymore with their heads and bodies all covered up.

 

[True Believer]

We hardly see Malay girls like Munah Bagharib
dressed like this in S'pore nowadays.

 

[disconsolate]

Why

We hardly see Malay girls like Munah Bagharib
dressed like this in S'pore nowadays.

Why her armpit got black stains?

 

[True Believer]

Why her armpit got black stains?

Hair removal may cause irritation, leading to dark patches under the armpits, but since I did not shave Munah's armpits, I cannot be sure.

 

[laksaboy]

Wear a red tudung, it can be used as an emergency wiping cloth during that special time of the month.

 

[True Believer]

Wear a red tudung, it can be used as an emergency wiping cloth during that special time of the month.

A burqa is often used by women to shoplift items.

 

[Loofydralb]

Poor lady, similar to the typical Christian, doesn't read and understand their own holy books.

If she did she would find verses that points clearly to put on the hijab. Instead she states, she "found out" hijab isn't mandatory. More like hearsay.
Lazy muslims who refuse to read, will have to answer to Allah eventually.

 

[True Believer]

Poor lady, similar to the typical Christian, doesn't read and understand their own holy books. If she did she would find verses that points clearly to put on the hijab. Instead she states, she "found out" hijab isn't mandatory. More like hearsay. Lazy muslims who refuse to read, will have to answer to Allah eventually.

Those who read the "holy" book usually end up becoming radicalised.

 

[Devil Within]

The whole religion is a lie. She is better off being a free thinker.

 

[Rogue Trader]

Lazy muslims who refuse to read, will have to answer to Allah eventually.

Must learn Arabic to read the Quran. Better just read the condensed version

 

[Loofydralb]

Those who read the "holy" book usually end up becoming radicalised.

You're way off. Those who read the book will toe the line and nothing in the book tells you to do bad things.

Those who don't read the book will conjure up so many imaginary rules that will fit their selfish desire. If they do bad, tell them to show where in the book it tells you to do it.

 

[myfoot123]

Just wear decently. But looking at the lady, she should wear a burka.

If not wear correctly, will look like Pocong.

 

[Loofydralb]

Must learn Arabic to read the Quran. Better just read the condensed version

Learning arabic would be the best. But learning it via translation from a publicly known person will suffice. Since what ever he says is in public and will be up to scrutiny by others who know arabic too.

You can't go wrong is you follow the book as it is an open book issue. Everybody has access to it and full transparency.

 

[Rogue Trader]

Learning arabic would be the best. But learning it via translation from a publicly known person will suffice. Since what ever he says is in public and will be up to scrutiny by others who know arabic too.

You can't go wrong is you follow the book as it is an open book issue. Everybody has access to it and full transparency.

Millions of people read the Arabic version and still interpret it wrong. Means either the material is outdated or the readers are not able to follow its intended message.

So just admit the project is a failure

 

[UltimaOnline]

Poor lady, similar to the typical Christian, doesn't read and understand their own holy books.

If she did she would find verses that points clearly to put on the hijab. Instead she states, she "found out" hijab isn't mandatory. More like hearsay.
Lazy muslims who refuse to read, will have to answer to Allah eventually.

Malay PAP Hazlina Abdul Halim says she herself is a good Muslim, how else could she have been appointed the President of Persatuan Pemudi Islam Singapura (PPIS), also known as the Singapore Muslim Women's Association? And as a good Muslim woman, she refuses to wear the Tudung Hijab, because she's sure that Islam does not require her to do so.

 

[disconsolate]

Islamisation will tear Malaysia apart, says Marina Mahathir​

Marina Mahathir, daughter of Pakatan Harapan chairman Dr Mahathir Mohamad, says Islamisation has led to divisiveness in and inevitable violence Malaysian society. Photo: The Malaysian Insight
www.todayonline.com

KUALA LUMPUR — Malaysia is on a slippery slope if the nation carries on with its Islamisation agenda, which will not only divide society, but also promote violence, said socio-political activist Marina Mahathir.

Citing a recent example of a man slapping a Muslim woman for not wearing a headscarf in public, the daughter of opposition Pakatan Harapan chairman Mahathir Mohamad, said Islamisation is not going to be positive or healthy for the nation.

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"What could possibly have given the man the idea that he is entitled to harangue and slap a Muslim woman for not wearing a tudung as happened recently in Penang," she said at a book launch at the Kuala Lumpur and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall on Wednesday (Jan 17) night.

The footage of a man slapping a woman for allegedly not wearing a headscarf some two weeks ago went viral on social media.

The man had singled out one of the women seated at a bus stop believed to be in Penang and questioned her about her religion and the way she was dressed.

He then slapped the woman in the face.

Touching on the book she launched on Wednesday night, Illusions of Democracy, Ms Marina said the publication provided "empirical back-up" to her stand on the Islamisation of Malaysia because "it is another form of colonisation, a concept that has never been known to being non-violent".

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"Whether it is the growing numbers of modest fashion of family cosmetics to the denunciation of any friendly overture to people of other faiths, to the demonisation of anyone that does not fit into one's official interpretation of Islam, all of these have proven not only to be divisive in our society but has led to inevitable violence," she said.

She also commented on a statement by "a former educator" who said minorities should not be given scholarships, and also questioned "a political party leader" for suggesting a Muslim-only cabinet.

At the Rise of the ummah convention recently, Mr Raof Husin, a former education officer said Putrajaya was constitutionally bound to limit study aids to Bumiputeras.

PAS president Abdul Hadi Awang said last year only Muslims will occupy decision-making roles in the Islamist party's cabinet.

"If you didn't know better, wouldn't you think that Isis (Islamic State) had said these things?"

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"And yet in our enthusiasm to fight terrorism in this country, some people become confused," Ms Marina said.

While it is said that Malaysians are moderate people who want peace and freedom of religion, sometimes the "toxic tones of the most violent Islamic groups in the world" are also practised, she said.

"On the one hand, some groups are labelled liberal and pluralist, yet at the same time, they are mentioned in the same breath as Isis despite the fact that liberal and pluralist are not words that would describe that particular group.

"Instead, some of the more official pronouncements that we hear or read about are more reminiscence of Isis than any liberal could ever be.

"There are people who want doctors to cut off people's hands for stealing for instance… some people think that women who speak their minds and protest their own discrimination in the name of religion are unsuited to call themselves Muslims."

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"There are those who call for the prosecution of academics who warn against the increasing radicalisation of our institutions."

"Are we merely confused or just hypocrites?"

She said although it is easy to spot the black mark in an "undemocractic" state where "lies are touted as truth", she is still positive that Malaysians will persevere.

"I have seen ordinary Malaysians resisting falling for the provocations, how they have refused to react in the way they are expected to."

"Malaysians have refused to believe that the burning of churches or the throwing of pig heads were the acts of real people like them rather than hired goons."

"They have taken insults, contained their anger and prayed instead. Malaysians have reached out across faith and race to help one another in times of trouble."

She added that although the authorities are finding ways to differentiate and separate society, Malaysians still have hope and are capable of respecting one another.

"This is a country where those in power change the name of hot dogs while ordinary people got together to learn how to love canines."

"We are carrying on as normal even though the authorities are finding ever more things to differentiate us and keep us apart."

But Ms Marina remains optimistic that despite all these setbacks, Malaysians are humane and capable of respecting one another, and who can respond in love.

Ms Marina was speaking at the launch of Illusions of Democracy, a compilation of articles by Ms Sophie Lemiere, an academic from the Weatherhead Centre at Harvard University, with contributors speaking about democracy in Malaysia.

Ms Lemiere, who moderated the forum, said more research needs to be done about democracy in Malaysia. THE MALAYSIAN INSIGHT

 

[superpower]

Poor lady, similar to the typical Christian, doesn't read and understand their own holy books.

If she did she would find verses that points clearly to put on the hijab. Instead she states, she "found out" hijab isn't mandatory. More like hearsay.
Lazy muslims who refuse to read, will have to answer to Allah eventually.

The issue is not how you interpret the holy book. Even Islamic scholars can't agree on which fatwas are true to the book. Doctrinal differences exist between different schools of Islam as well.

The issue is there should be no compulsion in religion. If a Muslim lady chooses not to wear the hijab because she believes Islam doesn't mandate it - of course you're free to disagree with her - then let her be. It's between her and Allah... if she goes straight to hell because of her 'wrong' interpretation it's still her choice.

When I was in Turkey (99% Muslims), I hardly saw any hijab in the cities, except those worn by visitors from Arab countries and Indonesia. You may say that most Turkish women are headed for hell, that's your prerogative; but I'd say let Allah be the judge - we are not God.

 

[Loofydralb]

Malay PAP Hazlina Abdul Halim says she herself is a good Muslim, how else could she have been appointed the President of Persatuan Pemudi Islam Singapura (PPIS), also known as the Singapore Muslim Women's Association? And as a good Muslim woman, she refuses to wear the Tudung Hijab, because she's sure that Islam does not require her to do so.

Her appointment there wasn't by merit. PAP put her there in return for some project with "meat' on it.
They were grooming her.
People in PPIS had nothing but disdain for her, but had to keep silent because of the money she brings in through PAP.

 

[Loofydralb]

The issue is not how you interpret the holy book. Even Islamic scholars can't agree on which fatwas are true to the book. Doctrinal differences exist between different schools of Islam as well.

The issue is there should be no compulsion in religion. If a Muslim lady chooses not to wear the hijab because she believes Islam doesn't mandate it - of course you're free to disagree with her - then let her be. It's between her and Allah... if she goes straight to hell because of her 'wrong' interpretation it's still her choice.

When I was in Turkey (99% Muslims), I hardly saw any hijab in the cities, except those worn by visitors from Arab countries and Indonesia. You may say that most Turkish women are headed for hell, that's your prerogative; but I'd say let Allah be the judge - we are not God.

Which scholar says hijab is not mandated in the QUran?

 

[True Believer]

You're way off. Those who read the book will toe the line and nothing in the book tells you to do bad things. Those who don't read the book will conjure up so many imaginary rules that will fit their selfish desire. If they do bad, tell them to show where in the book it tells you to do it.

"What could possibly have given the man the idea that he is entitled to harangue and slap a Muslim woman for not wearing a tudung as happened recently in Penang," she said at a book launch at the Kuala Lumpur and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall on Wednesday (17 Jan) night - Marina Mahathir. That violent Muslim man read the Quran and acted accordingly.