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Today's Scripture Reading

Conqueror

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Yes, Can Be Scary Sometimes.

thankyou for being frank unlike some idiot ....by the way you can talk to god ?


My prayer was in the morning and night previously. Night time can be very accurate or clear conversation. Sometimes, scary (tremble) especially I had done something wrong for that day. Especially, not coming for the assembling ... a sin too. If you read the old testament, you find one part about God's anger for who didn't come to worship Him on that special day which was on a yearly basis. Offerings were also given.

But, now ? Hahahaha ! I have grown wings ! 翅膀硬了!
 

Conqueror

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Adam Is Not The Human Race

Dear Greedy,

I don't think you have correctly interpreted what Conqueror really stated....may be Conqueror want to clarify.

Though He knew that Adam was going to sin and rebel against Him, that that still cannot prevent Him from creating the first human, Adam. The creation of human is one of God's greatest glories.


Human race in general is not from Adam. I'll tell you sometime later. But, now I have to sleep.
 

greedy and cunning

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Re: Adam Is Not The Human Race

ok...good night .

in the meantime , here is an interesting bed time story . . . . by lehmann

Christianity as we know it today would not have existed without Paul.

the original basis was so fundamentally altered by him that its meaning was completely reversed.
what interests paul about the preacher's life is his death , not his teaching.
paul turns a man who summon people to reconciliation with god into the savior.

he turns an orthodox Jewish movement into a universal religion which ultimately clashed with Judaism.

in the course of this transference from the jewish to the Graeco-Roman culture sphere , a further alienation took place.
paul wrote his epistles in Greek and the New Testament has come down to us only in a Greek version.

But there is a difference between a Jew reading the gospels nad the epistles of Paul and a Greek reading them.

to a Jew the Greek words retain their Jewish meaning. If a jew read the Greek word Christos , he knows that is it the translation of the
word Messiah and also that the literal meaning "anointed one" refers kings who were anointed.
so the word messiahto a jew is a synoym for the word king.
to a Greek , the word christos is s shell word without associations , a cipher that has to be endowed with content.

It also makes a difference whether a jew or a non-jew read the concept "son of god".
the concept of 'son of god' led to a misunderstanding that had undreamed-of consequences.
A jew would never even dream of thinking that the son of god meant a genuine relationship between a father and a son.
a son of god is a blessed man , a chosen vessel , a man who does what god wants.

The title 'son of god' was entirely familiar to the Jews in Jesus time and indeed for centuries before : ALL JEWS ARE 'SON OF GOD'.

At the moment when early christianity moved on to other linguistic patterns and cultures , and began to free itself from its Jewish origins ,
the impossible became the possible.
Jesus could only be turned into "son of god' outside Judaism. :confused::confused::confused::confused: :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

Psalm23

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Re: Adam Is Not The Human Race

in the meantime , here is an interesting bed time story . . . . by lehmann.....

Christianity as we know it today would not have existed without Paul.....

Dear Greedy,

Respectfully, I don't think this is correct.

It was God that gives us the hope of eternal life through His Son Jesus. With or with Apostle Paul makes no difference. Paul was just a mere God's servant and messenger, so were the others - Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Timothy, James, Peter, etc.

The term Christiantiy is merely used out of 'convenience', if you will. Really, doctrinally, it was the sacrifice of God's Son that give us the 'religion of Christianity.' In fact, the word, Christianity is not in the Bible (though the word Christian is in the Bible, and it simply means those who believe in the finished works of Jesus are Christians).

One can remove all the writings of Paul out from the Bible, it still does not change the fact that Jesus died to redeem our sins. The Bible is not about Paul, or even Matthew, Mark Luke, John and all the other apostles. The Bible is about God's finished work on the cross. Without Paul, someone would be raised to pen down all His work and communicate to all sinners that "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, whosoever believed in Him will not die but have eternal life (John 3:16).
 
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drifter

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Re: Adam Is Not The Human Race

" One can remove all the writings of Paul out from the Bible, it still does not change the fact that Jesus died to redeem our sins . "

that gay boy die to redeem your sins ?

1 ) he is just plain stupid and unlucky ...kena caught and nail to the cross ...serve him right ...

2) if he is god or can talk to the invivibleman, do you think he will kena caught ? means that he is useless .

3) if that gayboy really wants to redeem your sins why punish you and send you to hell when you dont believe in him ?
 

drifter

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contradicting bible ..only idiot like pslam23 believe in that storybook .


1 ) War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

3) Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

4) Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

5) Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

6) Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

7) How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

8) Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

9) Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

10 ) The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

11) Rabbits do not chew their cud
LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.

12) Snails do not melt
PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

13) Fowl from waters or ground?
GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

14) Odd genetics
GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

15) The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

16) Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

17) Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Heaven supported too
JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

18) The hydrological cycle
ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle

19) Order of creation
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

20) How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days."
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

21 ) How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

22) Moses' personality
NUM 12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."

NUM 31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."

23) Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."

24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

25) Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

26) Jesus' last words
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

27 ) Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

29 ) The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

30 ) God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

31 ) CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

32 ) Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

33 ) Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)

"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

34 ) Ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

35 ) What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - MAT 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - MAR 14:30

36 ) How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

37 ) How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

38 ) Does every man sin?
1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

39 ) Who bought potter's field
ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

40 ) Who prophesied the potter's field?
MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13

41 ) Who bears guilt?
GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

42 ) Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

43 ) How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

44) How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

45 ) Marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)

46 ) Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

47 ) Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

(various traipsings)

48 ) How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

49 ) Judging
1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

50 ) Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

51) For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

52 ) Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

53 ) God change?
MAL 3:6
JAS 1:17
1SA 15:29
JON 3:10
GEN 6:6

54 ) Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)

55 ) Who's sepulchers
ACT 7:16
GEN 23:17,18

56 ) Strong drink?
PRO 31:6,7
JOH 2:11-11

57 ) When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

(See also 1TH 4:15-18)

58 ) Solomon's overseers
1KI 9:23 550
2CH 8:10 250

59 ) The mother of Abijah:
2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

60 ) When did Baasha die?
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

61 ) How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
2KI 8:26 22

2CH 22:2 42

62 ) What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

63 ) What did they give him to drink?
MAT 27:34 vinegar

MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

64 ) How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day."
 

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Re: Yes, Can Be Scary Sometimes.

My prayer was in the morning and night previously. Night time can be very accurate or clear conversation. Sometimes, scary (tremble) especially I had done something wrong for that day. Especially, not coming for the assembling ... a sin too. If you read the old testament, you find one part about God's anger for who didn't come to worship Him on that special day which was on a yearly basis. Offerings were also given.

But, now ? Hahahaha ! I have grown wings ! 翅膀硬了!

when u go imh ...there alot of ppl inside also say they can speak to god some say they can see god some even say they are god ...so should we believe in them too ?

read the old testament ? the bible itself is full of contradiction ....check out my post above ..you yourself already admited saying don't really know whether the bible is even 85% correct . why quote from that story book when its not even real ? selective quoting ?
 

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My prayer was in the morning and night previously. Night time can be very accurate or clear conversation. Sometimes, scary (tremble) especially I had done something wrong for that day. Especially, not coming for the assembling ... a sin too. If you read the old testament, you find one part about God's anger for who didn't come to worship Him on that special day which was on a yearly basis. Offerings were also given.

But, now ? Hahahaha ! I have grown wings ! 翅膀硬了!

telling yourself that you have sin and imagine someone in the sky is waiting to smack you is plain stupidity.


listen to Dan Barker, an ex-pastor who finally realized that all those belief in supernatural stuffs are just plain "supernatural".. same with physic, unicorns, astrology.

[video=youtube;XT7joF0r32I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT7joF0r32I[/video]
 

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You Can Don't Read It B'cos It's My Story

telling yourself that you have sin and imagine someone in the sky is waiting to smack you is plain stupidity.


listen to Dan Barker, an ex-pastor who finally realized that all those belief in supernatural stuffs are just plain "supernatural".. same with physic, unicorns, astrology.


Go and do other things if you cannot stomach the truth. Not everyone is lucky enough to get to do the things like what I do. The problem is the wise ones are often a small tip of the iceberg - the majority are left out in the cold. Even then, among them (so many Christians) I was chosen by Him to become the best of the best in His Kingdom ie. one commando or naval diver being chosen for US Navy Seal training.

That's my story whether you like it or not.

BOB = Best of the best.


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X Is Important For Reading Text

when u go imh ...there alot of ppl inside also say they can speak to god some say they can see god some even say they are god ...so should we believe in them too ?

read the old testament ? the bible itself is full of contradiction ....check out my post above ..you yourself already admited saying don't really know whether the bible is even 85% correct . why quote from that story book when its not even real ? selective quoting ?


A rather good question here. Many so-called themselves Christians read the text without the understanding of God. They read from the first page to the last like reading a novel. Some use it like a literature study like Psalms as poems. History book ? You can name it. You CANNOT read it like other books.

How ? It's a heavenly TOP SECRET. 天机不可泄露。

If this is the case, then the accuracy of the book can be ignored up to a certain level. I will not reveal the secret behind the book. That's all I have to say.
 

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A rather good question here. Many so-called themselves Christians read the text without the understanding of God. They read from the first page to the last like reading a novel. Some use it like a literature study like Psalms as poems. History book ? You can name it. You CANNOT read it like other books.

How ? It's a heavenly TOP SECRET. 天机不可泄露。

If this is the case, then the accuracy of the book can be ignored up to a certain level. I will not reveal the secret behind the book. That's all I have to say.

wow...conman always use that word ...天机不可泄露。:wink: very scary . :wink:
 

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Adam Is Not The Human Race Part 2

One can remove all the writings of Paul out from the Bible, it still does not change the fact that Jesus died to redeem our sins. The Bible is not about Paul, or even Matthew, Mark Luke, John and all the other apostles. The Bible is about God's finished work on the cross. Without Paul, someone would be raised to pen down all His work and communicate to all sinners that "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, whosoever believed in Him will not die but have eternal life (John 3:16).


I was Paul in my own Church believe it or not. The style I wrote to them was quite similar. God needed a Paul calibre to spread the word. Jesus good friend Peter was not up to the job. Why ? He was a fisher - no education. I'm totally different if you had ever seen me in Mediacorpse's U Channel forum under Campus Superstar. It was a magic show that everyone will never ever forget. How I know ? They copied drama stories according to my story and wise nature cast by a little girl as 牙牙 in ...

[video=youtube;2ucpbDPisOg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ucpbDPisOg[/video]


Guess what. The sponsor was 霸王洗发水 where 霸王 = Conqueror

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This is not all. Amazingly, ... next time then fill you in.

Regarding about your Adam ... he was only 'borne' in 4004 BC. The human race was beyond that. Remember that the day is actually YOM or a span of time which be longer or shorter than a dinosaur period like Jurassic. See the two coloured text. The 6th day man and the 7th day man are different.


001:001 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
001:002 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
001:003 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
001:004 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
001:005 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
001:006 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
001:007 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
001:008 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
001:009 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
001:010 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
001:011 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
001:012 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
001:013 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
001:014 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
001:015 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
001:016 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
001:017 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
001:018 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
001:019 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
001:020 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
001:021 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
001:022 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
001:023 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
001:024 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
001:025 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
001:026 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
001:027 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
001:028 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
001:029 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
001:030 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
001:031 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

002:001 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
002:002 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
002:003 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
002:004 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
002:005 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
002:006 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
002:007 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
002:008 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
002:009 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
002:010 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
002:011 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
002:012 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
002:013 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
002:014 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
002:015 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
002:016 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
002:017 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
002:018 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
002:019 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
002:020 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
002:021 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
002:022 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
002:023 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
002:024 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
002:025 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.



The later 7th day man was Adam who was formed, NOT created. He was a Lamborghini, a handmade masterpiece by God Himself.
 

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wow...conman always use that word ...天机不可泄露。:wink: very scary . :wink:


Up to you to believe it. That's my story. Noah cannot force others into the ark. Those that believed him would not have died in the flood. An ark is NOT a boat. A box.


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Re: Adam Is Not The Human Race Part 2

" God needed a Paul calibre to spread the word. Jesus good friend Peter was not up to the job. Why ? He was a fisher - no education. "

i think jesus is lan jiao lan because he himself wanted to act god and become popular ..if god can do so many magical things like walking on water , turning water to wine ...ect . when cant god make peter more educated ? its not that difficult :wink: comparing all those " magical task " he have done :wink: ....
 

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Re: X Is Important For Reading Text

Up to you to believe it. That's my story. Noah cannot force others into the ark. Those that believed him would not have died in the flood. An ark is NOT a boat. A box.


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the answer you posted its just like me telling you ...i just kill a t-rex in my garden ..up to you to believe it :wink:
 

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Re: Yes, Can Be Scary Sometimes.

telling yourself that you have sin and imagine someone in the sky is waiting to smack you is plain stupidity.


listen to Dan Barker, an ex-pastor who finally realized that all those belief in supernatural stuffs are just plain "supernatural".. same with physic, unicorns, astrology.

[video=youtube;XT7joF0r32I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT7joF0r32I[/video]

thankyou for sharing the video here ..
 

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Re: Adam Is Not The Human Race Part 2

The later 7th day man was Adam who was formed, NOT created. He was a Lamborghini, a handmade masterpiece by God Himself.

lamborghini? lol... deluded.

[video=youtube;I225Vcs3X0g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I225Vcs3X0g[/video]
 

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thankyou for sharing the video here ..


no problem. share it around, please. we need to wake the young generation up, not to follow religions blindly.
people like psalm23 are hopeless beyond help, but at least we can tell the new generation not to be kum lan and believe santa claus from the sky.
 
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