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Today's Scripture Reading

drifter

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Why should Drifter feel angry? He did not need to be led to anger because he is already angry, even before I have not started this thread. I am sure he is also angry at God-My-Healer. Together with him, both of you are already angry at Jesus. To begin with, when I started the thread , it was meant for Christians and he (and also you) came in. I even put a courteous statement that the thread is meant for Christians and those who felt offended, please ignore the thread. What more can I do? How civiilized can I go? So, please blame yourself and Drifter. Whether there is a thread titled: Today's Scripture Reading or not is not going to change your anger towards God. So, what's the point you are making? Afterall, he has said he has cursed God thousand of times and I believe he already did that before I started my thread. He is an angry man looks like from beginning. Are you one of them too?

Am I man of God? No - far from it. But as believers, we are children of God and we try to share the gospel with other fellow Christians. Yes, we need to use hard word to drive out the message of God, but we have to distinguish between hard word and dirty/vulgar word. They are world's apart. God's words and messages are very hard for people - like you and Drifter as examples. If you want nice words, go to the movies. So, if you are 'disappointed' you shouldn't and I really can't be bothered whether you disappointed or not.

By the way, what empathy and compassion can you give to people who cannot even observe simple discipline but keep using four-letter words and posting vulgar picture. Let me tell you - I have no compassion and empathy of such people. There is no place for them especially in public forum. Really, I can't find better words than barbaric and uncivilized to describe him or even you.

Another of your point - am I worthy in the eye of God. No! I am not but because of Jesus, of His precious blood, I am made worthy to Him. Has God branded me holier than others, than you? No! We are all like sheep who have gone astray and all our righteousness are like filthy rags! The Bible has said, no one is righteous, and no one means no one - me included very obvious!

Modern science? Is there such a thing? Science is alway there God when created the universe. The law of physics, chemistry and all nature sciences are already there. Man simply discovered it. Man cannot made law of science. There are many things cannot be explained even with the so-called modern science, and science has been wrong many times. Just recently, astronomers have decided that Pluto is no longer considered as a planet. So, how reliable is science. Even the so-called modern science today cannot even determine what is the smallest particle in the universe and they were dead wrong for so many years when they believe and told the world that atom is the smallest particle. There are other sub-atomic particles many many times smaller than atom. So, trust science? Trust scientists?

Finally, to prove the existence of God? Yes. Already proven by you and Drifter many times over. If there is no God, why you two so angry at God and why there is a need to curse Him? This proves He exists.

Psalm23


im angry ? you must be joking . im laughing at your stupidlity and your gay cult . you are spreading stupidlity ...im just doing the opps , im teaching ppl to use their brain rather then their blind faith to think . who say this forum belongs to you and your cult ? we can come in whenever we like and debunk your blind faith ...anything wrong with that ?

" If you want nice words, go to the movies " , " we have to distinguish between hard word and dirty/vulgar word " . you are as contradicting as your " story book " . congrats you have been brainwashed to the max . the reaason of curing your god is to make you pissed , since you believe in him :wink: . let me curse him again ...FUCK YOUR GOD . do you feel helpless ? :wink:

science and religion ? your religion teach you the world is not round :wink: do you still believe that ? :wink:
 

drifter

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Yes...my parents believe in curses and in cursing even before they became Christians. Because of their belief, they never used curse words on us and also on others. Curses are real and the curse of curses was inherited from Adam when he disobeyed God. Thankfully, in the Book of Isaiah 53:4-5, it says: Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

We are healed with His stripes. The suffering and pain inflicted onto Jesus has paid for all our curses - I meant true believers only. He has broken the curses for us and we are living in a curse-free environment. Jesus has offered this opportunity to all of us - including you, Drifter, but only if you accept Him as your Saviour.

It is interesting and no surprise that your parents do not believe in curses but this still cannot change the situation because the Bible tells us that curses are real. In fact, we all now living in the sin-curse world. Thankfully, it will come to an end when Jesus comes to set up His kingdom.

By the way, you ask me not to worry? I can't understand - to worry what: that your parents don't beleive in curses and in cursing If that is the case, I like to say, oh yes, I am really worry for them and for you even you don't like to read what I have written in the Today's Scripture Reading.

Psalm23


oh please ...dont ever mention a story book thats full of contradicting . only stupid and gay god cock sucker like you believe in those story book . you would even believe that storybook if it says your god is living inside sanity pad in between mary's leg . curse ? oh ...i just seal a 100k business deal today after i curse your god ...your god have been very nice to me :wink: by the way have you clink on all my youtube videos ? i bet you dont even dare to watch it ...worrying your faith cant take the truth :wink:
 

drifter

Alfrescian (InfP)
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contradicting bible


1 ) War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

3) Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

4) Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

5) Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

6) Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

7) How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

8) Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

9) Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

10 ) The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

11) Rabbits do not chew their cud
LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.

12) Snails do not melt
PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

13) Fowl from waters or ground?
GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

14) Odd genetics
GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

15) The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

16) Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

17) Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Heaven supported too
JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

18) The hydrological cycle
ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle

19) Order of creation
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

20) How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days."
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

21 ) How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

22) Moses' personality
NUM 12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."

NUM 31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."

23) Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."

24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

25) Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

26) Jesus' last words
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

27 ) Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

29 ) The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

30 ) God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

31 ) CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

32 ) Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

33 ) Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)

"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

34 ) Ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

35 ) What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - MAT 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - MAR 14:30

36 ) How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

37 ) How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

38 ) Does every man sin?
1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

39 ) Who bought potter's field
ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

40 ) Who prophesied the potter's field?
MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13
 

drifter

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
41 ) Who bears guilt?
GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

42 ) Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

43 ) How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

44) How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

45 ) Marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)

46 ) Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

47 ) Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

(various traipsings)

48 ) How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

49 ) Judging
1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

50 ) Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

51) For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

52 ) Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

53 ) God change?
MAL 3:6
JAS 1:17
1SA 15:29
JON 3:10
GEN 6:6

54 ) Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)

55 ) Who's sepulchers
ACT 7:16
GEN 23:17,18

56 ) Strong drink?
PRO 31:6,7
JOH 2:11-11

57 ) When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

(See also 1TH 4:15-18)

58 ) Solomon's overseers
1KI 9:23 550
2CH 8:10 250

59 ) The mother of Abijah:
2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

60 ) When did Baasha die?
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

61 ) How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
2KI 8:26 22

2CH 22:2 42

62 ) What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

63 ) What did they give him to drink?
MAT 27:34 vinegar

MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

64 ) How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day."
 

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oh please ...dont ever mention a story book thats full of contradicting . only stupid and gay god cock sucker like you believe in those story book . you would even believe that storybook if it says your god is living inside sanity pad in between mary's leg . curse ? oh ...i just seal a 100k business deal today after i curse your god ...your god have been very nice to me :wink: by the way have you clink on all my youtube videos ? i bet you dont even dare to watch it ...worrying your faith cant take the truth :wink:

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

You have just proved yourself wrong and God is right. He is good. See, even you curse Him He still very nice to you!

This is true. In theology, we call this universal grace: He gives sunshine to all - Christians and non-Christians; He gives rain to all - Christians and non-Christians. And also in the theology, His mercy and grace of the heavenly throne is only given to those who are His children, those who accept the redeeming blood of Jesus. This is only given to the few that God has chosen. So, come to Him because 100K is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the eternal life that God has installed for us.

I did watch many youtube of people trying to curse god like what you doing. My conclusion is simple: The profiles of those people are quite similiar to yours. In the end, they will just conclude with some words of vulgarity and curses. Look like God has created a special place just for them.

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2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

You have just proved yourself wrong and God is right. He is good. See, even you curse Him He still very nice to you!

This is true. In theology, we call this universal grace: He gives sunshine to all - Christians and non-Christians; He gives rain to all - Christians and non-Christians. And also in the theology, His mercy and grace of the heavenly throne is only given to those who are His children, those who accept the redeeming blood of Jesus. This is only given to the few that God has chosen. So, come to Him because 100K is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the eternal life that God has installed for us.

I did watch many youtube of people trying to curse god like what you doing. My conclusion is simple: The profiles of those people are quite similiar to yours. In the end, they will just conclude with some words of vulgarity and curses. Look like God has created a special place just for them.

Psalm23

God good to all, or just a few?
" PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works " ?

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them :wink:

my business deal got nothing got to do with your gay lord ...its my own ability :wink:


the sun , rain is given by god to everyone in the world ? thats not from god :wink: please go back to school :wink: . if you insisted sun , rain , moon are from god ... what about tusnami ? snow , earthquake , typhoon ....ect :wink: why is that not all country get it ? :wink:


" I did watch many youtube of people trying to curse god like what you doing. My conclusion is simple: The profiles of those people are quite similiar to yours. In the end, they will just conclude with some words of vulgarity and curses. Look like God has created a special place just for them " . the answer is simple , either theres no god or your god ( who are self-praising ) can do nothing about it :wink:
 

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My conclusion is simple: The profiles of those people are quite similiar to yours. In the end, they will just conclude with some words of vulgarity and curses. Look like God has created a special place just for them.

Psalm23

and you dont worship Allah, does that mean you are going to hell as well?
 

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JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them :wink:

man, that is really sick!

make friend with a paedophile?
be buddy with the concentration camp operator?
sole mate with the khmer rouge's killer of cambodia?
or brother-in-arm with Prince Vlad?

errr... no thanks.
 

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man, that is really sick!

make friend with a paedophile?
be buddy with the concentration camp operator?
sole mate with the khmer rouge's killer of cambodia?
or brother-in-arm with Prince Vlad?

errr... no thanks.

most of the christains dont even read the bible ...they just follow that sick storybook blindly .
 

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most of the christains dont even read the bible ...they just follow that sick storybook blindly .

most of the time, for Presbyterian group, we do read the bible but we switched off the logic portion. when i hit those difficult passages that talked about how god slaughtered, killed, main, destroyed mankind without a whim and then on new testament, he was portrayed as a loving god. something in my mind went; "hey, that is some serious schizophrenia!" all of my ex-bible study group accepted this as fact and justified that god has all the rights to kill anyone thru' the believers.

that disturbed me alot throughout the years. so like all, i turned a blinded eye and ear to this and sing the hymns in the church like usual.

there is one hymns that i find it very disturbing as well;


Chorus:
"He lives! He lives! Christ Jesus lives today!
He walks with me and talks with me along life's narrow way.
He lives! He lives! Salvation to impart!
You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart."

he lives within my heart? that means he is imaginary and cannot be scrutinized by any modern science instruments! i made him up.. just like santa claus!
 

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and you dont worship Allah, does that mean you are going to hell as well?

You can worship anything you like whether Allah or Buddha or golden calf. We are saved only by the blood of Jesus and unless we accept this Gospel truth that God came in human flesh, to bear our pains, to accept all the tortures from the Roman soldiers, to willingly do the will of the Father till death, human are eternally condemned. Only the God of the Bible, Jesus can save us and give use life-eternal because through His death, He has paid the penalty for us, and His resurrection is the final victory over death.

Human has been given thousands of years to prove themselves that they are capable in saving themselves. They trusted politicians, kings, queens, princeses, princessess. They trusted science. They trusted bankers, economists. But we all now know the results. We have failed. None can be trusted. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man and in princes (Psalm 118.8-9). It's the Cross that gives us the life, life everlasting. One can go any temple day and night to worship but if the temple is without the Cross of Jesus, all our worship will be in vain. It is interesting to note that in the Chinese character "Temple" there are 2 crosses, a sun (represented by the Character "Day") and a moon! Only through the Cross can there be true worship.

In addition, there are dozens of other Chinese characters that depict the Bible stories - for example: the Chinese characters of "Boat", "Good", "Righteousness". Even for the Chinese character "devil", it describes the stories of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden! Did the Chinese 'invented' all these words? No! The true fact is that they were not invented by the Chinese. Rather, God has written those words into the hearts of the Chinese! Speak about God's revelation! The word of God truly reveals who He is!
Psalms23
 
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You can worship anything you like whether Allah or Buddha or golden calf. We are saved only by the blood of Jesus and unless we accept this Gospel truth that God came in human flesh, to bear our pains, to accept all the tortures from the Roman soldiers, to willingly do the will of the Father till death, human are eternally condemned. Only the God of the Bible, Jesus can save us and give use life-eternal because through His death, He has paid the penalty for us, and His resurrection is the final victory over death.

Human has been given thousands of years to prove themselves that they are capable in saving themselves. They trusted politicians, kings, queens, princeses, princessess. They trusted science. They trusted bankers, economists. But we all now know the results. We have failed. None can be trusted. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man and in princes (Psalm 118.8-9). It's the Cross that gives us the life, life everlasting. One can go any temple day and night to worship but if the temple is without the Cross of Jesus, all our worship will be in vain. It is interesting to note that in the Chinese character "Temple" there are 2 crosses, a sun (represented by the Character "Day") and a moon! Only through the Cross can there be true worship.
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In addition, there are dozens of other Chinese characters that depict the Bible stories - for example: the Chinese characters of "Boat", "Good", "Righteousness". Even for the Chinese character "devil", it describes the stories of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden! Did the Chinese 'invented' all these words? No! The true fact is that they were not invented by the Chinese. Rather, God has written those words into the hearts of the Chinese! Speak about God's revelation! The word of God truly reveals who He is!
Psalms23

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, the Christian Taliban.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, the Christian Taliban.

thankyou psalm23 ..he had show that his religion is above other religion ...he have show that religion separated mankind ...and thats how holy war started ...:wink:

ps: he can even called the invisibleman lau peh ...that alone can already explain his level of delusion mind .
 
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You can worship anything you like whether Allah or Buddha or golden calf. We are saved only by the blood of Jesus and unless we accept this Gospel truth that God came in human flesh, to bear our pains, to accept all the tortures from the Roman soldiers, to willingly do the will of the Father till death, human are eternally condemned. Only the God of the Bible, Jesus can save us and give use life-eternal because through His death, He has paid the penalty for us, and His resurrection is the final victory over death.

Human has been given thousands of years to prove themselves that they are capable in saving themselves. They trusted politicians, kings, queens, princeses, princessess. They trusted science. They trusted bankers, economists. But we all now know the results. We have failed. None can be trusted. It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man and in princes (Psalm 118.8-9). It's the Cross that gives us the life, life everlasting. One can go any temple day and night to worship but if the temple is without the Cross of Jesus, all our worship will be in vain. It is interesting to note that in the Chinese character "Temple" there are 2 crosses, a sun (represented by the Character "Day") and a moon! Only through the Cross can there be true worship.

In addition, there are dozens of other Chinese characters that depict the Bible stories - for example: the Chinese characters of "Boat", "Good", "Righteousness". Even for the Chinese character "devil", it describes the stories of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden! Did the Chinese 'invented' all these words? No! The true fact is that they were not invented by the Chinese. Rather, God has written those words into the hearts of the Chinese! Speak about God's revelation! The word of God truly reveals who He is!
Psalms23


stupid fuck , you also trusted your pastor words ( your pastor not human ? ) . you also trusted a bible written by a human ...theres no cure in delusion :wink: thankyou for showing us a good example of your stupidness :wink:
 

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thankyou psalm23 ..he had show that his religion is above other religion ...he have show that religion separated mankind ...and thats how holy war started ...:wink:

ps: he can even called the invisibleman lau peh ...that alone can already explain his level of delusion mind .


You are partially right in some ways and very wrong in many ways. Christianity is not a religion. So, you are wrong in this sense. Jesus is God and came in human flesh to establish relationship with the human race. He did not come to the earth to establish another religion.

One is right to say that Christ is above all religion but instead of the word "religion" the more appropriate expression, biblically-speaking, is the name of Jesus Christ is above every name (Philippians 2:9-11): Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

You get some marks for saying the religion of Christianity is above all religion, nonetheless. But it's the name of Jesus that is important. Remember, the Chinese word "Temple" - there are 2 crosses in this word and without thee cross of Jesus, you can worship and pray all you want, day (represented in the Chinese character "Day") and night (represented by the character "Moon"), our worship is going to end up in vain!

You also get some marks for saying religion separated mankind. But the truth is that mankind are already separated after the fall of Adam and Eve. Since then, either you are still preferred to live in as unrepented sinner or a repented sinner. Jesus came to make it easier (but not easy) for us. Though we are saved through the blood of Jesus, true repented sinners must not continue to live their lives like unrepented sinners. For thousands of years, mankind has been trying - in vain of course - to use their efforts and disregard God's commandments to live 'righteouse' lives. But we have failed, and have failed very miserably! Mankind's efforts ended up from 'bad to worst'. By becoming a Christian, by accepting Jesus as our Saviour would not make you a lesser sinner. Sinners are sinners. In God's eyes, there is no such thing as lesser sinner or greater sinner: For all (and all means all - you and I. No exception!) have sinned and come short of the glory of live (Romans 3:23); the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).

Good try! Keeping trying and you may get full marks - bibilically-speaking.

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You are partially right in some ways and very wrong in many ways. Christianity is not a religion. So, you are wrong in this sense. Jesus is God and came in human flesh to establish relationship with the human race. He did not come to the earth to establish another religion.

One is right to say that Christ is above all religion but instead of the word "religion" the more appropriate expression, biblically-speaking, is the name of Jesus Christ is above every name (Philippians 2:9-11): Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

You get some marks for saying the religion of Christianity is above all religion, nonetheless. But it's the name of Jesus that is important. Remember, the Chinese word "Temple" - there are 2 crosses in this word and without thee cross of Jesus, you can worship and pray all you want, day (represented in the Chinese character "Day") and night (represented by the character "Moon"), our worship is going to end up in vain!

You also get some marks for saying religion separated mankind. But the truth is that mankind are already separated after the fall of Adam and Eve. Since then, either you are still preferred to live in as unrepented sinner or a repented sinner. Jesus came to make it easier (but not easy) for us. Though we are saved through the blood of Jesus, true repented sinners must not continue to live their lives like unrepented sinners. For thousands of years, mankind has been trying - in vain of course - to use their efforts and disregard God's commandments to live 'righteouse' lives. But we have failed, and have failed very miserably! Mankind's efforts ended up from 'bad to worst'. By becoming a Christian, by accepting Jesus as our Saviour would not make you a lesser sinner. Sinners are sinners. In God's eyes, there is no such thing as lesser sinner or greater sinner: For all (and all means all - you and I. No exception!) have sinned and come short of the glory of live (Romans 3:23); the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).

Good try! Keeping trying and you may get full marks - bibilically-speaking.

Psalm23

i was writing in another thread about being absolute in belief and psalm23 has hit it right on the nail. alot of christian believers waiver about this and as what their scripture had said; if you are neither hot or cool but lukewarm, you can get spitted out(?). some tried to be scientifically apologetic about their faith, trying to harmonize religions and science, but No! not Psalm23... and certainly not that teenager in med school that i had talked to as well; whatever evidence that science has produced are denounced, nothing will convince them. what they did is to write off completely 100% off every single piece of scientific knowledge away; math, science, geology, everything.

that should be the way of a true believer; nothing logic will make sense to them except their religious books.

that leave me with one question for you, psalm23, why arent you doing the will of your god like going out to 3rd world country to evangelize? why stay at home, live a comfy live and type infront of a terminal? your faith require you to forsake everything and take up the cross with jesus. so, please do as what your scripture had instructed and move to the mission field.

any failure to observe this, you will draw criticisms to yourself that you are a hypocrite and live only less than 50% of what the bible has commanded you to do.
 

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You are partially right in some ways and very wrong in many ways. Christianity is not a religion. So, you are wrong in this sense. Jesus is God and came in human flesh to establish relationship with the human race. He did not come to the earth to establish another religion.

One is right to say that Christ is above all religion but instead of the word "religion" the more appropriate expression, biblically-speaking, is the name of Jesus Christ is above every name (Philippians 2:9-11): Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

You get some marks for saying the religion of Christianity is above all religion, nonetheless. But it's the name of Jesus that is important. Remember, the Chinese word "Temple" - there are 2 crosses in this word and without thee cross of Jesus, you can worship and pray all you want, day (represented in the Chinese character "Day") and night (represented by the character "Moon"), our worship is going to end up in vain!

You also get some marks for saying religion separated mankind. But the truth is that mankind are already separated after the fall of Adam and Eve. Since then, either you are still preferred to live in as unrepented sinner or a repented sinner. Jesus came to make it easier (but not easy) for us. Though we are saved through the blood of Jesus, true repented sinners must not continue to live their lives like unrepented sinners. For thousands of years, mankind has been trying - in vain of course - to use their efforts and disregard God's commandments to live 'righteouse' lives. But we have failed, and have failed very miserably! Mankind's efforts ended up from 'bad to worst'. By becoming a Christian, by accepting Jesus as our Saviour would not make you a lesser sinner. Sinners are sinners. In God's eyes, there is no such thing as lesser sinner or greater sinner: For all (and all means all - you and I. No exception!) have sinned and come short of the glory of live (Romans 3:23); the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).

Good try! Keeping trying and you may get full marks - bibilically-speaking.

Psalm23

Christianity is not a religion ? are you really that stupid ? go and check dictionary what is the word religion means ...if you are too lazy or too delusional let me check it for you ...:wink:


a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.


Christianity is above all religion ? whahahahaha ...you are indeed a Christian Taliban .. so when are you going to hang bombs around your neck ? :wink: people who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs :wink:
 

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I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of christianity one redeeming feature. they are all alike founded on fables and mythology .if the Bible is mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust it to tell us where we're going?


PS: Religion does three things quite effectively: Divides people, Controls people, Deludes people :wink: . the sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail :wink:
 

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most of the time, for Presbyterian group, we do read the bible but we switched off the logic portion. when i hit those difficult passages that talked about how god slaughtered, killed, main, destroyed mankind without a whim and then on new testament, he was portrayed as a loving god. something in my mind went; "hey, that is some serious schizophrenia!" all of my ex-bible study group accepted this as fact and justified that god has all the rights to kill anyone thru' the believers.

that disturbed me alot throughout the years. so like all, i turned a blinded eye and ear to this and sing the hymns in the church like usual.

there is one hymns that i find it very disturbing as well;


Chorus:
"He lives! He lives! Christ Jesus lives today!
He walks with me and talks with me along life's narrow way.
He lives! He lives! Salvation to impart!
You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart."

he lives within my heart? that means he is imaginary and cannot be scrutinized by any modern science instruments! i made him up.. just like santa claus!

with psalm23 sick mentality he could even die for his cult ...so he really think that his god would plant a bunch of bones in the earth to test his faith? either hes in denial or his god has some serious self-esteem issues :wink:
 
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