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This time, China is going to crash next month.

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Think about it. China is now run by the most corrupted regime ever. Xi JP's brother-in-law can get you approvals for anything in China so long you can afford it. Perpetuality in leadership is to allow Vice-President Wang Qishan to takeover Xi JP if he is ever ousted. Wang's notorious team chased Li Kashing out of China and is taking over Anbang and HNA Group.

Chinese conglomerate HNA Group Co-Chairman Wang Jian died during a business trip in France on July 3 in what local police said appeared to be an accidental fall from a wall while posing for a photograph. ............................Wang told employees earlier this year that the company’s difficulties were the result of a “major conspiracy” against the ruling Communist Party and President Xi Jinping by foreign and domestic “reactionary forces”, according to an internally-distributed email.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rance-after-falling-from-a-wall-idUSKBN1JU0SQ
 

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China going stronger & stronger every month and everyday. Killed Ang Moh's influences globally and everywhere.

More and more wining more and more confident everyday.


China told Dotard he shot his own foot badly with Tariffs and pissed off the world, the pissed off world are moving along with China & 1B1R to fix USA with penalties and Tariffs.


There will be nothing left of Ang Moh and only China is left standing in no time.




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商务部:美方征税是向全世界也是向自己开火
2018-07-05 17:05:02 来源: 新华网

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新华社北京7月5日电(记者于佳欣)商务部新闻发言人高峰5日表示,如果美方启动征税,实际上是对中国和各国企业、包括美资企业的征税。美国是在向全世界开火,也在向自己开火。
高峰在商务部当日召开的例行新闻发布会上表示,中国作为经济全球化和全球产业链的重要支持者和参与者,很多出口产品都是在华外资企业生产的产品。根据分析,美方公布的所谓340亿美元的征税产品清单中,有约200多亿美元,大概占比约59%是在华的外资企业生产的产品。其中,美国企业占有相当的比例。
“美方措施本质上打击的是全球产业链和价值链。简单来说,美国是在向全世界开火,也在向自己开火。”高峰说。
针对有媒体提问中美贸易战爆发,在华美资企业是否会成为打击目标,高峰回应说,在过去的几十年里,中国始终是全球外资最受欢迎的市场之一,不仅仅因为中国市场巨大,更是因为中国市场代表着稳定、理性、法治。所有在华企业的合法权益都将得到中国政府的保护。
“对于美方挑起的贸易战可能给企业带来的影响,我们将持续评估,并努力帮助企业缓解可能受到的冲击。”他说。
 

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China crash, USA blows up ...what a wonderful way to reconfigure the world.

Honestly, I think overall, both China and US will be fine.
They are the players, for every tariff, they can make it up with some form of protectionism in other industries.
Both countries will continue to grow in this trade war.

A friend gave me this illustration:
Eg. If China blocks US pork, US pork will then be sold cheaply in other parts of Asia, affecting the pig farmers in Australia and Asia.

So when US and China fights a trade war, regional countries die harder.
 

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u ok or not ??
u started with this :
The timing is certainly right. There are a whole new set of issues that China need to worry about, right?

Think about it. China is now run by the most corrupted regime ever. Xi JP's brother-in-law can get you approvals for anything in China so long you can afford it. Perpetuality in leadership is to allow Vice-President Wang Qishan to takeover Xi JP if he is ever ousted. Wang's notorious team chased Li Kashing out of China and is taking over Anbang and HNA Group.

In recent years, Chinese municipals and State-owned enterprises are issuing as much debts as US annually while the US economy is almost double of China? Is China dealing with anything worse than the real trade war (Japan fought a 20-years trade war with US and sank many Japanese Prime Ministers), or rising global interest rates, and many more I don’t even need to list.

now u said chink should be ok and other countries are affected instead.
 

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u ok or not ??
now u said chink should be ok and other countries are affected instead.

Yes, China will be affected, but it is likely that regional countries will be more affected than China.
eg. Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan

In the latest developments, a small court in China approved injunction to stop US's semi-conductor company Micron from selling in China. Sounds crazy because Micron's former employee violated Non-compete Agreement but ended up being filed for patents violation. Not just US-made chips, Micron sells chips from other Asian countries to China, this is another example that regional countries get affected. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-amid-us-trade-tensions--chip-battle-10496886
 

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Honestly, I think overall, both China and US will be fine.
They are the players, for every tariff, they can make it up with some form of protectionism in other industries.
Both countries will continue to grow in this trade war.

A friend gave me this illustration:
Eg. If China blocks US pork, US pork will then be sold cheaply in other parts of Asia, affecting the pig farmers in Australia and Asia.

So when US and China fights a trade war, regional countries die harder.

I think tariffs quite different from ban.

Tariffs will mean consumers pay more for USA pork in your example. They may or may not switch to cheaper alternatives if there is perceived value in more expensive USA pork.

In a trade war, consumers suffer not governments. Governments reap more revenue without adding any value to the economy while consumers get saddled with higher prices (inflationary pressures)
 
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I think tariffs quite different from ban.

Tariffs will mean consumers pay more for USA pork in your example. They may or may not switch to cheaper alternatives if there is perceived value in more expensive USA pork.

In a trade war, consumers suffer not governments. Governments reap more revenue without adding any value to the economy while consumers get saddled with higher prices (inflationary pressures)

Trump is a genuis. He's implemented huge corporate tax cuts without saying how he's going to fund it.

Looks like this trade war is a guise to hit amercian consumers with an indirect tax to fund his tax cuts.

It's not wise for China to get drawn into this trade war with Trump.
 
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Trump is a genuis. He's implemented huge corporate tax cuts without saying how he's going to fund it.

Looks like this trade war is a guise to hit amercian consumers with an indirect tax to fund his tax cuts.

It's not wise for China to get drawn into this trade war with Trump.

I believe the next stage is for US to wage war with WTO a few months later.
 

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China should just make life difficult for Americans ...make Americans pariah in Asia. Treat Americans like dogs. Americans can retreat to their country.
 

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