This is how handsome the Yaya @True Believer (self-proclaimed high SES ACS boy) looks like

[Nut]

@Nut 頑徒, 可以嗎? KNN, 這個 forum 越來越難混了

Where got 难混
来日方长，且行且珍惜

 

[duluxe]

Whether something appears lewd depends not merely on the object perceived, but on the moral and spiritual condition, or more precisely the state of being, of the perceiver. Perception is conditioned by whether one is still bound in a fallen mode of being or has been renewed by grace. One therefore cannot simply substitute one’s own perception for that of another, especially where differing states of being shape what is experienced as temptation or purity.

How, then, does the state of mind of a true believer differ from that of someone who does not share the same faith?

To answer that question, one must revisit the Garden of Eden. Before Adam ate the forbidden fruit, he and Eve were naked in each other's presence. Yet Eve's nakedness was not regarded as lewd in Adam's eyes. Scripture states that “the man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.” This was before the Fall. It was only after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit that they became conscious of their nakedness and experienced shame.



In other words, lewdness does not exist in an original sense; it emerges from shame. Shame itself is not original either, but arises from sin. The premise of your question, therefore, rests on the mistaken assumption that sin, and consequently lewdness, is original and self-existent.

Unlike truth, which is ontologically primary, sin has no independent ontological status. It is derivative rather than original, existing as a privation or corruption of the good. Consequently, lewdness, as an expression of sin, is even further removed from what is ontologically primary. You cannot, therefore, treat lewdness as an absolute standard by which all things are measured and judged. To do so is to elevate what is derivative and privative to the status of what is original and absolute - a category mistake. Truth, not sin or its manifestations, is the proper ontological and moral reference point. This metaphysical distinction underlies Jesus' warning: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."​

I will now turn to the truth.

Before Adam sinned, he existed in a state of being “able to sin.” After he sinned against God, he fell into a lower state of being - “not able not to sin.” Through the gospel of salvation, a true believer is restored to a renewed state of being: “able not to sin.” Finally, upon full reunion with God, the believer is perfected beyond Adam’s original condition of “able to sin,” entering a state like God’s own, in which one is “not able to sin.”

The true believer is now in the state of being “able not to sin.” Accordingly, it is entirely possible that images deemed lewd by another may not evoke lust within such a person. This may not be readily comprehended by one who remains in a lower state of being, “not able not to sin,” and who must not presume that others are living in the same state of being as he is.

BTW, this is not my invention, but that of Augustine of Hippo, who articulated the underlying framework of human will, grace, and sin from which these distinctions are drawn.

@Nut 頑徒, 可以嗎? KNN, 這個 forum 越來越難混了​

1. In ancient times when humans walked around naked, nudity is the norm, it carried no lewd connotations. We live in a modern age where civilized people are expected to dress appropricately. Using adam and eve is not relevant.

2. Where is your evidence that the Deacon is now in the state of being 'able not to sin'?

 

[duluxe]

Let me wrap up my bread-and-butter work first, and then I'll give your question the thoughtful response it deserves. It's a conversation worth more than our usual banter. ​

My conditions boxed yo up and forced you to choose between room A or room B but you are able to think out of the box. You escaped from my box, you are a true maverick.

TB is a fake elite, I can easily get the reaction i intended by stroking his ego or pushing his hot buttons, LOL! ACS boy is useless lah.

 

[Dongyi]

Where got 难混
来日方长，且行且珍惜

要 porlampar also must write long thesis, 还不难混？

 

[Dongyi]

1. In ancient times when humans walked around naked, nudity is the norm, it carried no lewd connotations. We live in a modern age where civilized people are expected to dress appropricately. Using adam and eve is not relevant.

2. Where is your evidence that the Deacon is now in the state of being 'able not to sin'?

Now I beo-ing slim waist Vietbu. But your doubts are legitimate. I will come back to you.

@Boonsiong is also a slim waist connoisseur.

 

[Boonsiong]

Now I beo-ing slim waist Vietbu. But your doubts are legitimate. I will come back to you.

@Boonsiong is also a slim waist connoisseur.

小蛮腰
爽

 

[Nut]

要 porlampar also must write long thesis, 还不难混？

You 并非浪得虚名，而是名副其实 mah

 

[Dongyi]

小蛮腰
爽

果然是行家

 

[Dongyi]

You 并非浪得虚名，而是名副其实 mah

实 = Google

 

[Nut]

实 = Google

Ask you unrelated question. Just answer Yes I should or No I shouldn't.

Question is:
Should I ?

 

[Boonsiong]

果然是行家

Imagine if u have a pen pal called 小蛮
You thought she has slim waist instead she is a fatso

 

[Dongyi]

Ask you unrelated question. Just answer Yes I should or No I shouldn't.

Question is:
Should I ?

Yes, I should

 

[Nut]

Yes, I should

Ok. I agree. Everything that happens now i will put blame on you! Got black and white you cannot run liao