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Chitchat The stationary flat Earth

Do you think the Earth is flat and stationary?

  • I'm not sure...

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flatearther

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You use so many videos and photos taken on earth , yet you can't accept _the one_ taken from outer space showing a round earth.
:eek: The first "No" vote! :p

As for the one "taken from outer space showing a round earth":

[video=youtube;xHwfVn4xZFY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHwfVn4xZFY[/video]
they gave us so many photos of a round earth.
...

You know what's your problem?You write so much nonsense, send us us links to nonsense videos. Yet i need only ONE good photo taken from outer space to prove you wrong.
You mean you still believe those so-called "photos" from outer space are true photos of the Earth, and not simply professional paintings; have you even carefully watched that video? Anyway, here's another one:

[video=youtube;q8tIm-fxE_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8tIm-fxE_s[/video]


NASA, NASA, NASA....you think only nasa take earth pictures before?
Of course, I'm aware of the existence of the other:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Space_agencies
wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_space_agencies
who are all either deluded or malicious hoaxers. :(


Don't give us models and drawings anymore. Show me one photo taken from outer space showing a flat earth. A real photo showing flat earth just like your avatar.
That's not possible, simply because it's impossible to travel into "outer space", just like it's impossible to dig all the way into the Earth's mantle, let alone its core.
We humans have made much technological advances so far, but we're still human, so our talents are limited. :wink:


i don't believe in the moon landing,
That's a good start. :smile:
But if you don't believe it's possible to travel to the moon because it's too far away, you should also consider the possibility that even the much nearer:
wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope
wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station
are also too far away, simply because they are supposedly located within the:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermosphere
at least three or four hundred kilometres from the Earth's surface, compared to aeroplanes that usually fly within the troposphere (below 15 km).


Soon there will be commercial space travel. Will you distrust tourists' photos as well?
Yes, just like what I posted earlier:
for me I want to believe that the truth is out there.
But sometimes, the truth is really not out "there". :wink:

Sometimes, the truth is in here:

[video=youtube;CCts6dtyhjw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCts6dtyhjw[/video]

EarthAtmosphereBig.jpg
 
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flatearther

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Good morning:smile:

So how do we get internet?
wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_wave
for:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_broadband
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_broadband

or
wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable
Example:
New FASTER trans-Pacific cable system completed - Channel NewsAsia
channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/2915510.html
wikipedia.org/wiki/FASTER_(cable_system)
for fixed landline:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband

The "Satellite Hoax" video (in my post just before yours) also answers your question from the 18-minute mark onwards. :smile:
 

Dreamer1

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200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball Videobook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg

The STARS declare the TRUTH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwzjvhcKjHw

Frequency of the Heavens: Cymatics, Bio & Sonoluminescence, actual stars and planets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJJ_z6pwUrE

The Man Who Saw The Flat Earth: Auguste Piccard. By Geoshifter. FLAT EARTH ADDICT 87
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFYiHGqshc

Breaking Through The Flat Earth Dome In 2016 Hennessy Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mvFP2QrWY

Auguste Piccard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Piccard

Total Video Proof of Moon Landing hoax Released 2015 ! || Why NASA is silent ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPEPRgfVlU4

Flat Earth - Take the Pillbox - Part 1 of 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuRaMfALYhE&spfreload=10

Flat Earth - Take the Pillbox - Part 2 of 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQn-yMNAEMI

Surveyors, Engineers, Pilots and Sailors Expose the Flat Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgxBTrmIhU&spfreload=10

Tosh.0 & The Red Hot Chili Peppers - The Flat Earth & The Deep Space Deception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdRq_fFr_4I

NASA ISS Faking Space And The Satellite Deception Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jqtzCKKh8

Astronauts Gone Wild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr6Vcvl0OeU
 
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Dreamer1

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The Beginning
Genesis 1
(John 1:1-5)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The First Day: Light
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The Second Day: Firmament
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The Third Day: Dry Ground
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

The Fourth Day: Sun, Moon, Stars
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/1.htm
 

flatearther

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satellite image of earth (right at the middle of the pacific ocean).....almost zero land.
I am 100% certain that can be, and is, a photo of a painting or a computer-generated image, after watching this presentation by an ex-NASA employee (now in his 40s), who was recruited (when he was much younger and gullible) to produce hyperrealistic paintings of Earth and other "planets" for NASA, before resigning when he realized that ALL (without exception) of the so-called photos from "outer space" released by NASA were either photos of paintings or CGI:

[video=youtube;QciLVJZNq4c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QciLVJZNq4c[/video]

[video=youtube;TfoXSVlv8-E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfoXSVlv8-E[/video]

[video=youtube;0xYwMjAXna8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xYwMjAXna8[/video]
 
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flatearther

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[video=youtube;YKbdH7a2IZw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKbdH7a2IZw[/video]

[video=youtube;n-QAUeRZumU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-QAUeRZumU[/video]

[video=youtube;N_DcVETa_98]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_DcVETa_98[/video]
 

hugs

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Just thinking out loud. Like the idea of a flat Earth.

The Beginning
Genesis 1
(John 1:1-5)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The 1st verse and the 2nd verse, there was a gap of million of years apart. After God created heaven and earth, he talked about earth and did not talk about heaven. By the time of the 2nd verse, Satan was already casted out of heaven. Everything related to heaven, including milking way, already taken place. In the 2nd verse, earth didn't belong to any solar system.

The First Day: Light
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.God brings in the solar system and earth is spinning so it has light and day. Everything else in the heaven is not spinning yet. God did not name the stars, the sun, the moon. God merely named day and night to mark out the beginning of 1st day of work when he started to focus on earth.

The Second Day: Firmament
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.water divided means cloud and ocean. cloud was water in other form.

The Third Day: Dry Ground
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.DNA is in the earth and everything that grows from it comes with DNA.

The Fourth Day: Sun, Moon, Stars
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. Gravity is created. Many stars in heaven but now one directly giving light to earth. orbits within the solar system started. Everything started spinning now and has own orbit circle.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/1.htm
 

Ed Chigliak

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I am still looking into the flat earth theory....its plausible but I am 50-50 on it. Lots of good arguments to justify the flat earth theory.

I am thinking aloud. If we are on a flat earth and the sun rises from the east and sets in the west. The next day, the sun rises from the east again. So how can we explain as to how the sun "resets" back to the east after setting in the west?

EC


I'll wait patiently for you to slowly change your mind, before finally voting "Yes". :p



No, sunrise will still be in the East and sunset will still be in the West, but the mid-day sun will not always hang directly/vertically above you when you look up at the sun at noon; it will be hanging at different angles from you throughout the year, which is a fact that you can see for yourself, even in Singapore, which is located almost exactly on the equator.
 

Ed Chigliak

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Telecommunication is part and parcel of your daily lives. I believe there are telecommunication satellites up in space. Hell...it better be..because in my younger days, I was working with multi million$$ Satellite comms and Satt Earth Stations. There are Inmarsat, Intelsat... We even had engineers and designers fly over from Japan/Europe to teach us. We used to have comms outages due to the interference from the sun (solar radiation etc). And we had mathematical calcs and models to determine exactly when it will happen.

If I recollect, my Uni Prof actually took us out to the open at a specific time, where one can see one of the smaller low orbiting satellites. So there..there is one satellite up somewhere in the sky.

As to someone asking about internet. Well there are the undersea Optic cables across the oceans (for communication between countries). There are microwave dishes and also Satellites for comms (eg. talking on the phone, GPS). Planes use satt comms. Ships, boats at sea all use Maritime satellites to communicate etc.

There are thousands of little satellites littered out there.

But let us not confuse it with what we are dealing with NASA. Its my opinion, lots of the photos and vids provided by NASA are absolutely FAKE, touched up, altered or bloody CGI. The initial Apollo landing was a big joke. Its like they are selling us this narrative and we swallow it lock, stock and barrel. Why?....I do not know.

Funny thing....maybe we should watch some of the older blockbuster Hollywood movies (Matrix for starters, Steven Speilberg movies/telemovie...). If you really watch deeper into these outlandish space/alien type of movies and think out of the box, one might make some intelligent assumptions/theories of what actually lies "out" there. We might even realise how much we have been manipulated by the Elites of the world.



I am very open to the idea of the Flat earth (within limits) and would like to thank the gentleman who started the thread. Well done.



Satellites Debunked - 7 Ways - Satellite Hoax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvV9zZktq28

Satellite Hoax Satellites Do Not Exist! must watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCts6dtyhjw

Weather radar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_radar

氣样雷達
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/气象雷达
 

hugs

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Do Mcdonald cafes look like those little red houses on Monopoly board from the plane on the theory of a flat Earth? Just wondering:p
 

eatshitndie

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I am 100% certain that can be, and is, a photo of a painting or a computer-generated image, after watching this presentation by an ex-NASA employee (now in his 40s), who was recruited (when he was much younger and gullible) to produce hyperrealistic paintings of Earth and other "planets" for NASA, before resigning when he realized that ALL (without exception) of the so-called photos from "outer space" released by NASA were either photos of paintings or CGI:

when i started my career in the u.s. i was asked to conduct geo-location surveys in several cuntries including india, ecuador, south korea and south africa. before mobilizing with equipment and crew, i had to search for maps from various mapping agencies and libraries to use them for plotting and planning. at that time, google was not around and there was no google earth nor google map. mapquest got started but they only covered a few u.s. cities. at that time, it was called geosystems global corporation. there were only paper maps to rely on, and these maps were outdated. i had to order new topological survey maps from each respective cuntry via a mapping agency. the problem was: each cuntry's geological survey agency or department published their topo maps using a different datum, and not only that, a different reference ellipsoid. among geodesy experts, we call the figure of the earth a geoid. it's not a perfect round ball. it's an ellipsoid. based on different reference ellipsoids, the latitude, longitude, and elevation values of each location although displaying the same numbers on various maps will differ in actual "true" location and time if referenced to a common or universal measurement system, such as gps.

and this was where gps, and dgps for that matter, was introduced to those cuntries for precise geodetic surveys, and corrections of their datums. they were relying on old datums. with dgps, using a reference beacon on the ground nearby with a transmit radius of 30km, i was able to verify x,y,z of each selected location down to 1cm cube precision. the folks from each respective cuntry were impressed, and they kowtowed to american ingenuity, innovation and technology. that was how i conquered the world, and they are now more than convinced that the earth is a geoid of a specific ellipsoidal reference. the one that is seen in google earth is extremely accurate, and is now the undisputed reference ellipsoid or geoid. if you remove the geoid from your theory and insist on a flat earth, the entire gps coord system, all modern mapping, and geodetic science so far will fall apart. and you cannot use your smartphone or any gps-assisted device as we post. the reason that all these new technologies work, including synchronization of global networks and time-stamping of internet apps is that the illuminati has perfected the geoid model of earth and we (on the world wide web posting crap) are living proof of its existence. :wink:
 
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flatearther

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Yeah your right , they saw a freaking long 100 feet high wall while flying from Satiago to Sydney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btXC3vSHULc
I'm not the only one who's right. :wink:
Having said that, I doubt they could clearly see any obvious ice wall from such a height.
Also, that video doesn't clearly indicate that the plane was actually flying over Antarctica, let alone the actual "South Pole"; those could simply be icebergs in the southern Pacific Ocean. :wink:
 
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flatearther

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Satellites Debunked - 7 Ways - Satellite Hoax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvV9zZktq28

Satellite Hoax Satellites Do Not Exist! must watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCts6dtyhjw

Weather radar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_radar

氣样雷達
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/气象雷达
200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball Videobook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i_iDyUTCg

The STARS declare the TRUTH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwzjvhcKjHw

Frequency of the Heavens: Cymatics, Bio & Sonoluminescence, actual stars and planets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJJ_z6pwUrE

The Man Who Saw The Flat Earth: Auguste Piccard. By Geoshifter. FLAT EARTH ADDICT 87
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFYiHGqshc

Breaking Through The Flat Earth Dome In 2016 Hennessy Commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0mvFP2QrWY

Auguste Piccard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Piccard

Total Video Proof of Moon Landing hoax Released 2015 ! || Why NASA is silent ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPEPRgfVlU4

Flat Earth - Take the Pillbox - Part 1 of 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuRaMfALYhE&spfreload=10

Flat Earth - Take the Pillbox - Part 2 of 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQn-yMNAEMI

Surveyors, Engineers, Pilots and Sailors Expose the Flat Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgxBTrmIhU&spfreload=10

Tosh.0 & The Red Hot Chili Peppers - The Flat Earth & The Deep Space Deception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdRq_fFr_4I

NASA ISS Faking Space And The Satellite Deception Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jqtzCKKh8

Astronauts Gone Wild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr6Vcvl0OeU
Many thanks again! :smile:
And thanks for finally voting! :o
 
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