The end of CST is near?

[glockman]

God emailed me recently. He told me CST has a place in heaven. Though not as eloquent as some MIW, CST is a pure man - genuine, sincere, honest etc. One thing's for sure - he didn't enter politics to make money.

oh goody, you must've read my post in the religion section.

 

[GoldenDragon]

oh goody, you must've read my post in the religion section.

No sir I didn't.

 

[heartlander]

I honestly find some of the comments here very amusing and also troubling. So PAP is supposed to lay off CST just because CST is a nice and honest man? This is politics, please wake up. If your opponent is Mother Teresa, you maim and insult her all the same as long as it wins you points. CST obviously knew what he was up against - he should be applauded for his courage. Taking pity on him is like calling him stupid.

 

[Frankiestine]

He appears to have difficulties walking steadily. Hope his health improves.

Yes it seems the stroke has taken much out of him and can't help but wonder whether he can actually take the rigors of campaigning and running in office...

 

[Frankiestine]

Sure, every good man has to go and it is time for him to go.
Look at LKY, GCT etc all refused to give up the million dollar salary. They past their prime, finished their stint as PM, still greedy about money so they create SM, MM position to plunder more millions from the tax payers. Time's up, old timers, time to go.

By creating these post, they have effectively make a mockery of their own party...and if LKY still features in the next coming election then its a damnation of PAP and their so called renewal policy..remember those prophetic words uttered by Woody "PA SEE BUAY ZHAO"..how it is really coming back to haunt them..

 

[cass888]

Sure, every good man has to go and it is time for him to go.

Look at LKY, GCT etc all refused to give up the million dollar salary. They past their prime, finished their stint as PM, still greedy about money so they create SM, MM position to plunder more millions from the tax payers. Time's up, old timers, time to go.

That was a brilliant thing that GCT did, keeping LKY as Senior Minister, because that prevents the latter from being too critical. If Badawi had kept Mahathir as SM, he may still be PM today.

 

[GoldenDragon]

So PAP is supposed to lay off CST just because CST is a nice and honest man? This is politics, please wake up. If your opponent is Mother Teresa, you maim and insult her all the same as long as it wins you points.

Politics is war without bloodshed and war is politics with bloodshed - Mao Tze Tung?

 

[Frankiestine]

That was a brilliant thing that GCT did, keeping LKY as Senior Minister, because that prevents the latter from being too critical. If Badawi had kept Mahathir as SM, he may still be PM today.

On the contrary, I think the SM post was a creation by the old mental fart prior to him stepping down as PM. Of course he could not step down immediately and create a new post for himself, he had to let Rajaratnam be the buffer for him. It was in essence his hold on power after "stepping down".

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Agree with you completely. CST is 100% honest and thrifty. Always exemplary in his conduct. He was jeered and laughed at because compared to the MIW, CST is always at a disadvantage. He doesn't have the whole bureaucracy to do background research for him. He speaks from his heart. If you put any of the MIW in his position, they will also fumble and stumble. Those who laughed and jeered at him are worse than snakes and whores.

Agree totally. No doubt about the man's integrity. CST has done alot with what little resources he had, not to mention the odds that were stacked against him. For an MP, he has done an exemplary job. Some people fault him for not being vocal like JBJ or build up the opposition but to those PP residents who voted him in, i dun think anyone is complaining.
I on the contrary thinks Lina stands a fighting chance and hopefully CST will bag a GRC.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Agree totally. No doubt about the man's integrity. CST has done alot with what little resources he had, not to mention the odds that were stacked against him. For an MP, he has done an exemplary job. Some people fault him for not being vocal like JBJ or build up the opposition but to those PP residents who voted him in, i dun think anyone is complaining.
I on the contrary thinks Lina stands a fighting chance and hopefully CST will bag a GRC.

Yes, I think Lina will be victorious by a small margin, maybe betwwen 52-54%.
PP residents have long trusted her and whatever minuses there are compared to CST, she more than makes up for it with her good health.

CST going GRC is a good move. He is already old and weak. He needs the young ones with him providing the mentor role. Can't expect him to be running all over with his poor health.

I am anticipating 1 GRC to collapse from the MIW and 4-6 single seats to go to the Opposition. Let's see.

 

[Ramseth]

Yes, I think Lina will be victorious by a small margin, maybe betwwen 52-54%.
PP residents have long trusted her and whatever minuses there are compared to CST, she more than makes up for it with her good health.

CST going GRC is a good move. He is already old and weak. He needs the young ones with him providing the mentor role. Can't expect him to be running all over with his poor health.

I am anticipating 1 GRC to collapse from the MIW and 4-6 single seats to go to the Opposition. Let's see.

CST's practising what LKY's practising, on a lower scale but nevertheless on the same principle, hogging and stifling the younger generation with dynastic politics. I hope all SPP and SDA lose with somebody losing deposit, as a lesson to all other opposition parties, as the previous SDP lesson seemed not to have been learned or have been forgotten.

 

[GoldenDragon]

CST's practising what LKY's practising, on a lower scale but nevertheless on the same principle, hogging and stifling the younger generation with dynastic politics. I hope all SPP and SDA lose with somebody losing deposit, as a lesson to all other opposition parties, as the previous SDP lesson seemed not to have been learned or have been forgotten.

I beg to differ, Mr Ramseth. The people surrounding CST do not have the leadership traits to take over. Lina just happened to be the last option. Can you blame CST after what CSJ did to him?

LKY is different. He has many scholars to choose from. Look at the MIW. All world class people. All tried and tested - SARs, economic crises etc.

Dynastic politics? If you gain zero$, I don't see it as dynastic politics. What's there for CST and Lina to gain other than MP allowance. I think they have more to lose than gain.

Dynastic politics involves far more than MP allowance. I rather compare apple with apple and orange with orange. CST is far too straight-forward to be compared with LKY and makes a poor disciple of LKY. We should look overseas for a more appropriate comparison.

 

[cass888]

Dynastic politics? If you gain zero$, I don't see it as dynastic politics. What's there for CST and Lina to gain other than MP allowance. I think they have more to lose than gain.

A little known secret. When Chiam became a "full time MP", he did not only draw an MP allowance, he also draws a salary as full time town council chairman. Low also does the same. The town council salary is at least $15k.

No PAP MP does this, except when Ang Mong Seng was appointed General Manager in his 5 MP town council. But Ang Mong Seng was already GM even before he was elected MP, if I'm not wrong.

 

[Ramseth]

I beg to differ, Mr Ramseth. The people surrounding CST do not have the leadership traits to take over. Lina just happened to be the last option. Can you blame CST after what CSJ did to him?

LKY is different. He has many scholars to choose from. Look at the MIW. All world class people. All tried and tested - SARs, economic crises etc.

And pray tell, of those of technocrat calibres, who are of leadership calibres? Both PAP and SPP membership structures are sculptured and structured to pose no challenge to the existing leadership. Succession is by appointment and anointment, not by democratic or meritocratic contests.

Dynastic politics? If you gain zero$, I don't see it as dynastic politics. What's there for CST and Lina to gain other than MP allowance. I think they have more to lose than gain.

Dynastic politics involves far more than MP allowance. I rather compare apple with apple and orange with orange. CST is far too straight-forward to be compared with LKY and makes a poor disciple of LKY. We should look overseas for a more appropriate comparison.

Power and authority over others can be as addictive as money, if not more, especially when affluent livelihood has been taken care of already.

 

[GoldenDragon]

A little known secret. When Chiam became a "full time MP", he did not only draw an MP allowance, he also draws a salary as full time town council chairman. Low also does the same. The town council salary is at least $15k.

No PAP MP does this, except when Ang Mong Seng was appointed General Manager in his 5 MP town council. But Ang Mong Seng was already GM even before he was elected MP, if I'm not wrong.

I think CST gave up his law practice to be full-time MP. No idea about the salary for Town Council.

'No PAP MP does this' coz the pay is peanuts compared to what they are currently getting. I think Ong Ah Heng is another full-time MP, specialising in kopitiams interaction.

 

[GoldenDragon]

And pray tell, of those of technocrat calibres, who are of leadership calibres? Both PAP and SPP membership structures are sculptured and structured to pose no challenge to the existing leadership. Succession is by appointment and anointment, not by democratic or meritocratic contests.



Power and authority over others can be as addictive as money, if not more, especially when affluent livelihood has been taken care of already.

Mr Ramseth, we will agree to disagree here then.