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The attack on Chinese Malaysians continues

sukhoi-30

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Yes..indeed.

I was very surprised that there are many ethnic chinese in Thailand.People like former PMs like Chavalit,Baharn, Chuan Leekpai, Yingluck, thaksin, Pridi are all chinese. There are millions of them in Thailand but all are assimiliated and took only Thai names and speak Thai and practiced Thai culture. They can be leaders and nobody can criticised them like BN did always to the chinese. They contributed immensely to their country of adoption.

Similarily, even though the Chinese in Indonesia are assimiliated , millions still stay and has become successful business and political leaders. People like Sofian Wanandi,Henry Setiawan, sudono salim, kimun ongkosanjojo still control the country economy and Indonesians benefit greatly from the contribution of the chinese.

If Malaysia is sincere and appreciative of its industrious chinese minority, it cannot forever using them as scapegoats whenever there is problems. By casting them as a separate coummunity through their different beliefs, culture, language and traditions, the Malaysian govt should not blame the chinese for being different . The chinese may also feel that the Malaysian govt intentionally want them to be a different distinct community vs the rest of the Malay Population.Spore did a good job since 1965 to build a Spore identitiy by using English as a common language with English medium schools and closing all chinese schools. The lesson in the 50s and 60s between the chinese educated and english educated also create a class and political divide. PM najib on the other hand wants to open more chinese schools ! If Najib is serious and concern about his chinese minority, he should see these examples and assist the chinese to quickly assimiliate into the larger community instead of pulling them further apart and then blame them when the opportunity rises.
 
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winnipegjets

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I see a lot of fools playing into the dirty hands of Anwar. DAP garnered 10 additional Parliamentary seats this time and it is a big victory.
Anwar is behaving like a loser because as usual, with his poor judgement, he staked his entire political future in this election and now find it hard to swallow the defeat. Why should the Malaysian Chinese who is on winning momentum respond to war cries of a faggot? Fools.

The election should have been won by the Pakatan coalition. Frauds enabled UMNO to get a win. Even the Elections Commission was working for UMNO. Just look at the statements made by the EC to see how bias they were against the opposition.

We shall see if some of the results get overturned by the courts. Or maybe the 80k people that showed up tonight may lead to 8 million people protesting, forcing the government to quit.
 

LeMans2011

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The election should have been won by the Pakatan coalition. Frauds enabled UMNO to get a win. Even the Elections Commission was working for UMNO. Just look at the statements made by the EC to see how bias they were against the opposition.

We shall see if some of the results get overturned by the courts. Or maybe the 80k people that showed up tonight may lead to 8 million people protesting, forcing the government to quit.

Anwar said "We have won" before the count began. Wtf??? Sure Pakatan can challenge the verdict but to say they won is premature. We are talking about 23 seats... i do not see 23 borderline Parliamentary seats. In fact why don't Pakatan wake up to realise their Mathematics is poor? Sabah and Sarawak has 56 seats majority of which were won by BN because opposition has not devoted resource there. BN just need to win about 60 out of the 166 seats in west malaysia which is chicken feet.

I hope they voice their anger, make themselves heard internationally tonight, and return to work tomorrow. If they resort to paralysing the country by provoking the govt further that will be really stupid.

Malaysian opposition needs a moderate leader like Low Thia Khiang... they are too hardline. They go around slamming the govt as if they were dead people.
 

PUNISHER

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"Malaysian opposition needs a moderate leader like Low Thia Khiang... they are too hardline. They go around slamming the govt as if they were dead people"

Some country like the Malaysia must use the "slamming " tactics , the one with the most flaming wins :wink: Singapore opposite party are too afraid of the government that's why when lhl ask low " if there's need for wks to step down " low also LAN LAN keep quite . I will never forget that !!! That's why Singapore politician is a joke !! Singapore opps party are not garang enough !! period !!
 
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Leongsam

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The Chinese do not need to adapt in Thailand precisely because Buddhism is dominant there and a vast majority of Chinese there are Buddhist. So your analogy falls on its face.

The "vast majority" of Chinese are NOT Buddhists you twit. Only 18% are.

All the data is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

In Thailand, Chinese adopt the religion of their hosts. In Malaysia, they should do the same.
 

winnipegjets

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Anwar said "We have won" before the count began. Wtf??? Sure Pakatan can challenge the verdict but to say they won is premature. We are talking about 23 seats... i do not see 23 borderline Parliamentary seats. In fact why don't Pakatan wake up to realise their Mathematics is poor? Sabah and Sarawak has 56 seats majority of which were won by BN because opposition has not devoted resource there. BN just need to win about 60 out of the 166 seats in west malaysia which is chicken feet.

I hope they voice their anger, make themselves heard internationally tonight, and return to work tomorrow. If they resort to paralysing the country by provoking the govt further that will be really stupid.

Malaysian opposition needs a moderate leader like Low Thia Khiang... they are too hardline. They go around slamming the govt as if they were dead people.

26 seats were lost narrowly. Perak was lost narrowly. Popular vote won by Pakatan.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...e-26-pakatan-seats-pkrs-fuziah-salleh-claims/

UMNO and gang did everything it could to secure a victory. Even the EC was used to attack the opposition. Last year, the Opposition had already raised questions on the electoral roll. The EC just dismissed the complaint. No explanation or investigation.

So, Pakatan should just take it? No change will happen. If an uprising like the Arab Spring is necessary to bring about change in Malaysia, then it must happen. When sinkees see how brave Malaysians are, perhaps they will shed their kiasi and kiasu traits and start something similarly here.
 

The_Hypocrite

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In Pinoyland. The chinese also adopted catholacism n became well integrated into the host country. They r in general quite well off. Soo well off that they are targets of kidnappings.

The "vast majority" of Chinese are NOT Buddhists you twit. Only 18% are.

All the data is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

In Thailand, Chinese adopt the religion of their hosts. In Malaysia, they should do the same.
 

soIsee

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The "vast majority" of Chinese are NOT Buddhists you twit. Only 18% are.

All the data is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

In Thailand, Chinese adopt the religion of their hosts. In Malaysia, they should do the same.

What kind of rubbish talk is this?

Anyone is free to practice whatever religion that suits them, in which ever country they are in.

Talking like this only shows you will be better off being born a m&d.

Anyway, don't drift from the main topic.

The issue here is about the flaws in m&ds and the problem that they create .

As LKY has put it bluntly when he was actively running the show and from his experience with the Tungku then.

The m&d can never be trusted and you should NEVER give them a upper hand in anything or you'll find your own life at their mercy which they will excercise no compassion towards those that are NOT of their kind.
 

Leongsam

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Anyone is free to practice whatever religion that suits them, in which ever country they are in.

Tell that to your own government you twit. Numerous religious groups have been banned in Singapore. :rolleyes:
 

yinyang

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In Pinoyland. The chinese also adopted catholacism n became well integrated into the host country.
True for Philippines, but it's fool hardy to think same (Islam) holds for Malaysian chinese. Fundamental differences in demographics and religious leanings
 

yellowarse

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True for Philippines, but it's fool hardy to think same (Islam) holds for Malaysian chinese. Fundamental differences in demographics and religious leanings

If the Chinese can adopt Theravada Buddhism in Thailand, Roman Catholicism in the Philippines, various Christian denominations in the US, why not Islam in Malaysia?

In many societies, adopting the language and religion of the majority are key to full assimilation of any ethnic minority.
 

Leongsam

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If the Chinese can adopt Theravada Buddhism in Thailand, Roman Catholicism in the Philippines, various Christian denominations in the US, why not Islam in Malaysia?

The Malaysian government should simply pass a law requiring all non muslim Chinese who wish to remain in the country to convert to Islam before the next GE.

Failure to do so will result in expulsion. They can then fuck off back to China.

Problem solved!
 

yellowarse

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The Malaysian government should simply pass a law requiring all non muslim Chinese who wish to remain in the country to convert to Islam before the next GE.

People forget that China has 23 million Muslims, more than any country in S.E. Asia apart from Indonesia, and far more than any Western country.

The Chinese have been living with Muslims and converting to Islam for the past 1,400 years!
 

laksaboy

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If the Chinese can adopt Theravada Buddhism in Thailand, Roman Catholicism in the Philippines, various Christian denominations in the US, why not Islam in Malaysia?

In many societies, adopting the language and religion of the majority are key to full assimilation of any ethnic minority.

That's because the Chinese love their pork, beer and prostitutes. There's no point sacrificing so much mortal pleasures to please an imaginary deity.

Also, Islam is a highly inconvenient and restrictive faith: you must dress this certain way, pray five times a day, pray facing one direction, fast one month every year, learn the Arabic script, try to go on your Haj pilgrimage at least once in your lifetime etc.

No thank you.
 

The_Hypocrite

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The religions you mentioned allow the Chinese to remain Chinese. Can still do ancestor worship, eat pork and drink alcohol. For Islam,,cannot eat pork and drink alcohol. Does not appeal to me..cannot eat pork might as well dont live,,,,But I have met some European muslims who eat bacon and drink alcohol as they practice a more tolerant form of Islam. For the Singapore/Malaysia type of Islam, they are more strict.So harder to find followers.

If the Chinese can adopt Theravada Buddhism in Thailand, Roman Catholicism in the Philippines, various Christian denominations in the US, why not Islam in Malaysia?

In many societies, adopting the language and religion of the majority are key to full assimilation of any ethnic minority.
 

Pocong

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