Thaipusam = Buddhist. Matland Boleh!!!!

[Char_Azn]

 

[halsey02]

They will tell you, Google translation salah!. I am amaze that so many years since their Independence, they don't know that white packet for Chinese people, 'pek kim' for funerals & Thaipusam is not a Budhist festival. Malaysia Boleh!:o

 

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The Matlanders are not entirely wrong -

1) Buddhism is an off-shoot of Hinduism.
2) Both originated from India.

 

[vamjok]

1) Buddhism is an off-shoot of Hinduism.

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it is not

 

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it is not

If you say so....

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

The Matlanders are not entirely wrong -

1) Buddhism is an off-shoot of Hinduism.
2) Both originated from India.

buddhism is not off-shoot of anything..............


it's telling u there's no such thing as religions.............or the usual concept of a soul.........


it's too different from those so-called religions.........

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

The Matlanders are not entirely wrong -

1) Buddhism is an off-shoot of Hinduism.
2) Both originated from India.

buddhism is from nepal.

 

[Char_Azn]

buddhism is from nepal.

Buddha attain Nirvana in a place call Sarnath. That place is in India.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Buddha attain Nirvana in a place call Sarnath. That place is in India.

Buddha was born in nepal and hence buddhism is from nepal. Attaining enlightment is just the highest stage in buddhism he was already buddhist prior to that.

 

[halsey02]

Buddha was born in nepal and hence buddhism is from nepal. Attaining enlightment is just the highest stage in buddhism he was already buddhist prior to that.

Many found enlightenment in SINgapore, but couldn't reach Nirvana!

 

[kulgai]

Buddha attain Nirvana in a place call Sarnath. That place is in India.

But, of course. Buddha was Gautama, an indian prince

 

[Ramseth]

The Matlanders are not entirely wrong -

1) Buddhism is an off-shoot of Hinduism.
2) Both originated from India.

it is not

Son, dad has attended Buddhist classes. Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Most of the doctrines like inevitable suffering, karma are the same. Gautama was born a Hindu prince in Nepal at a time when Nepal was part of India. His main mission in starting Buddhism was to simplify life and get rid of the caste system. He also tried to bring the religion to a philosophical and spiritual sphere where there's no idolatry worshipping of statues. Ironically, after his death, his statue became iconic.

 

[vamjok]

Son, dad has attended Buddhist classes. Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Most of the doctrines like inevitable suffering, karma are the same. Gautama was born a Hindu prince in Nepal at a time when Nepal was part of India. His main mission in starting Buddhism was to simplify life and get rid of the caste system. He also tried to bring the religion to a philosophical and spiritual sphere where there's no idolatry worshipping of statues. Ironically, after his death, his statue became iconic.

dad either you are sleeping in the class or that teacher is fuck up. whoever that is in the class, be it a monk or nun, if he teaches u this, ask him go fuck the wall.

buddhism concept of kamma is very much different from the concept of kamma in hinduism in many areas. i will be honest, i have forgotten many of the details as the last time i touch the pali cannon was many years back. but one most important reason why he teach the concept of kamma is this, to break the concept that we cannot change our fate. people then had the superstitious concept that their life is already pre-decided by some unknown force kamma and cannot be changed. According to him this view is wrong, and thus he goes into details on the different kinds of kamma influences. In short except for very serious issue, buddhism view of kamma is that it can be changed and our life/future is uncertain, nobody fate has not being decided or fixed by kamma. This is one major difference between pre-hinduism view (current form of hinduism did not exist that time, there is a lot of differences between pre-hinduism and current form of hinduism) and buddhism philosophy.

Next his main mission in starting buddhism was never to simplified life, according to him it was to teach the understanding of the nature of phenomenon happening around us (3 universal characteristics), thus realising the nature of suffering/unhappiness/pains (dukkhas). getting rid of caste system well was not really his primary aim in teaching, his primary aim was as mentioned to spread his philosophy about understanding the nature of dukkhas. For if one really accept his philosophy, the caste system will already fall by itself.

besides, he was not dumb. asking everyone to live a simple life (equivalence to a monk) is unrealistic and crazy. This is the exact reason why most of his teachings if one really too free like me to go and read it, you will realised he set 2 different standards for the lay followers and the monks. there is even a section of him saying as a husband, its your duty to make sure you buy gifts, a bit of jewellery to make you wife feel happy or something like that.

the rest of the part yap i agree.

P/S: i took a diploma course in buddhism for fun and dropout halfway, cos i cannot stand waking up 8am every sunday.

 

[zhihau]

according to him it was to teach the understanding of the nature of phenomenon happening around us (3 universal characteristics), thus realising the nature of suffering/unhappiness/pains (dukkhas).

sadhu~! sadhu~! sadhu~!

*bows deep deep to bro vamjok*

 

[zhihau]

karma are the same

karma simply means the action. coupled with volition or not, the resulting vipaka would be vastly different.

 

[scroobal]

Ramseth intrepretation is right. We might not like it but these are facts. He is indeed an Indian Prince and the philosophies are near identical. The physical manifestations however so different.

 

[vamjok]

karma simply means the action. coupled with volition or not, the resulting vipaka would be vastly different.

u cannot like that explain to most people one la, most people never even flip a single page of the pali canon, and thus have no idea there is a section of teaching known as Dependent Origination (90 percent of the buddhist i talk to have no idea what is it about).

u talk till like that is machiam a maze to most people, but of cos among those who really study this, of course we use the same language.

 

[vamjok]

Ramseth intrepretation is right. We might not like it but these are facts. He is indeed an Indian Prince and the philosophies are near identical. The physical manifestations however so different.

my dad intrepretation will get a big 0 if you submit this to any buddhism exam

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

Son, dad has attended Buddhist classes. Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism. Most of the doctrines like inevitable suffering, karma are the same. Gautama was born a Hindu prince in Nepal at a time when Nepal was part of India. His main mission in starting Buddhism was to simplify life and get rid of the caste system. He also tried to bring the religion to a philosophical and spiritual sphere where there's no idolatry worshipping of statues. Ironically, after his death, his statue became iconic.

salah liao....................just some of the phrases used are the same like karma, etc etc so the people don't get confused............


Jainism is the daddy of Hinduism..................



the Buddha have said those Hindu priests knows nothing even if they can memorize all the vedas..............

 

[shOUTloud]

Ramseth intrepretation is right. We might not like it but these are facts. He is indeed an Indian Prince and the philosophies are near identical. The physical manifestations however so different.

If you speak to a Hindu, he will probably claimed that Buddhism is an offshoot of Hinduism with the Buddha being a Hindu/Indian Prince and all before He got Enlightened. However, as Vamjok explained, there are many similarities between Buddhism and Hinduism. One crucial difference is the concept of Karma and the other is the concept of Dependent Origination. Both concepts have no place in Hinduism.

Vamjok had explained the concept of Karma from the Buddhist point of view. Dependent Origination stated that there are no Brahma, no Vishnu and no Shiva because all conditioned phenomenon are impermanent. No Hindu will accept this and thus Hinduism is not equal to Buddhism and neither is Buddhism an offshoot of Hinduism.