Tang Dynasty people did not speak Mandarin !

[Sinkie]

Christian Roots Discovered in China

http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/churchandministry/Christian_Roots_Discovered_In_China.aspx

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Christian Roots Discovered in China

Got time, go read this to know your Chinese ancestry: The 'Original Unknown GOD of China
Especially the Border Sacrifice...

 

[Fook Seng]

Don't believe me you ask la. You can prove me wrong, or prove me right.

There are two questions there. You only answer one.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Christian Roots Discovered in China

Got time, go read this to know your Chinese ancestry: The 'Original Unknown GOD of China
Especially the Border Sacrifice...

Thanks. That was a great link. We are going back to the faith of our ancestors.

 

[Conqueror]

Heard Of Nestorian

http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/churchandministry/Christian_Roots_Discovered_In_China.aspx

I have come across the word Nestorian. Before Marco Polo's time ? The diagram in some way is correct. Two types of people - the living dead 凡人 and the living living 圣人.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

I have come across the word Nestorian. Before Marco Polo's time ? The diagram in some way is correct. Two types of people - the living dead 凡人 and the living living 圣人.

It's even earlier > The 'Original Unknown GOD of China

Way before Jesus Christ was born, the praying to a single God was already practiced.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

It's even earlier > The 'Original Unknown GOD of China

Way before Jesus Christ was born, the praying to a single God was already practiced.

And its way way before Mohd invented Islam.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

And its way way before Mohd invented Islam.

Way before Moses, and after Noah, when the tower of Babel was destroyed. The Garden of Eden was in Yunnan (where the 4 rivers are) and the border sacrifice was to the south, facing Yunnan, where the fiery cherubim guards the entrance.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

Way before Moses, and after Noah, when the tower of Babel was destroyed. The Garden of Eden was in Yunnan (where the 4 rivers are) and the border sacrifice was to the south, facing Yunnan, where the fiery cherubim guards the entrance.

The rivers that were mentioned included the Euphrates.
Is the Euphrates in Yunnan?

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Christian Roots Discovered in China

Thanks. That was a great link. We are going back to the faith of our ancestors.

This link explains border sacrifice in summary, with graphics > Border Sacrifice link

This link explains the instructions for Border sacrifice > Law of Sacrifice link

This link explains the similarity of the Chinese God and the Hebrew God > Supreme God of the Ancient Chinese & the Hebrews

This link explains that the Chinese language is the language of the Tower of Babel > Language of the Tower of Babel

This link explains that Confucius and other great sages worship ShangDi > China and the Bible

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

The rivers that were mentioned included the Euphrates.
Is the Euphrates in Yunnan?

The bible is written by the Hebrews, who know only a little about the Garden of Eden and the Hebrews also put Genesis as the first Chapter of the bible, which it should not be. If it was Euphrates, it would be easy to pinpoint location of the Garden of Eden, but no one can, because the region of Euphrates does not conform to the origin of the Garden of Eden.

 

[Conqueror]

Three Wise Men ?

It's even earlier > The 'Original Unknown GOD of China

Way before Jesus Christ was born, the praying to a single God was already practiced.

Before Christ birth, there were a few sages walking on Earth. The 3 wise men ? How did they know that the savior is coming ? We don't know.

Who had said or spread those rumours and made many people to worship other gods as the ultimate gods or saviors, we can only speculate the devils were already there to cause confusion to men's minds. Remember how the devils were thrown down from heaven in ancient time before Christ ? In the present situation, the devil is your system administrator and he can control your mind. The Spirit is of God which it can go against it.

Jesus was sad that he was going to die. And He rebuked Peter for comforting Him ? Isn't that funny ? No. Peter's will is of the flesh and not of the Spirit. The words were opposite or opposing.

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Even the Chinese deities have similar traits. Saints or "xian" (mortals) cannot marry "fan ren" or mortals. This is especially true in our church. For light and darkness do not mix.

 

[king_of_abalone]

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Hokkien is a beautiful language

The guy was repeating KNNBCCB and at the same time, the videographer captured the bus license plate CBxxxxx

 

[Kinana]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

The bible is written by the Hebrews, who know only a little about the Garden of Eden and the Hebrews also put Genesis as the first Chapter of the bible, which it should not be. If it was Euphrates, it would be easy to pinpoint location of the Garden of Eden, but no one can, because the region of Euphrates does not conform to the origin of the Garden of Eden.

If you really follow the Bible narrative, the great flood came after the fall of Adam. In other words, the Garden was destroyed and could not possibly be in Yunnan.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

If you really follow the Bible narrative, the great flood came after the fall of Adam. In other words, the Garden was destroyed and could not possibly be in Yunnan.

Genesis 2:8 says God plants a garden in the EAST. East of what? East of where?
The 3 wise men from the East. East of what? East of where?

Nowhere was it mentioned that the garden was destroyed in the flood. The garden is still guarded by the fiery cherubim.

Do you know that Yunnan has the largest collection of fauna and foliage in the whole wide world? Many plants can trace their biological DNA to Yunnan. This is hush hush. The Miao tribe has a collection of songs describing Genesis and the flood that are passed down through their generations.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Three Wise Men ?

Before Christ birth, there were a few sages walking on Earth. The 3 wise men ? How did they know that the savior is coming ? We don't know.

Who had said or spread those rumours and made many people to worship other gods as the ultimate gods or saviors, we can only speculate the devils were already there to cause confusion to men's minds. Remember how the devils were thrown down from heaven in ancient time before Christ ? In the present situation, the devil is your system administrator and he can control your mind. The Spirit is of God which it can go against it.

Jesus was sad that he was going to die. And He rebuked Peter for comforting Him ? Isn't that funny ? No. Peter's will is of the flesh and not of the Spirit. The words were opposite or opposing.

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Even the Chinese deities have similar traits. Saints or "xian" (mortals) cannot marry "fan ren" or mortals. This is especially true in our church. For light and darkness do not mix.

3/4 of the New Testaments were written by Peter. So, you get the idea now?
The Old testament Genesis was edited by Moses in 1,200 BC, and that is way too early when the history of China is at least 3,000 BC when the first civilization was established. That pre-dates Moses.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

Genesis 2:8 says God plants a garden in the EAST. East of what? East of where?
The 3 wise men from the East. East of what? East of where?

Nowhere was it mentioned that the garden was destroyed in the flood. The garden is still guarded by the fiery cherubim.

The flood happened in Genesis 6 - 9 where it said the whole earth was covered by water, way after Genesis 2.
By logic, the garden was indeed destroyed.

Do you know that Yunnan has the largest collection of fauna and foliage in the whole wide world? Many plants can trace their biological DNA to Yunnan. This is hush hush. The Miao tribe has a collection of songs describing Genesis and the flood that are passed down through their generations.

All ethnic groups have the flood story because we are all decendents of Noah.

 

[Kinana]

Re: Three Wise Men ?

3/4 of the New Testaments were written by Peter. So, you get the idea now?
The Old testament Genesis was edited by Moses in 1,200 BC, and that is way too early when the history of China is at least 3,000 BC when the first civilization was established. That pre-dates Moses.

Its not Peter, its Paul. You don't even know what you are talking about bro, you simply parrot what other Muslims tell you without your own simple research or questioning.
BTW, Paul wrote most of the books in the NT but actual content is less than 3/4 because gospels n Acts are so much longer.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Three Wise Men ?

Its not Peter, its Paul. You don't even know what you are talking about bro, you simply parrot what other Muslims tell you without your own simple research or questioning.
BTW, Paul wrote most of the books in the NT but actual content is less than 3/4 because gospels n Acts are so much longer.

Does not matter. Have you heard of the phrase "to rob Peter to pay Paul"? Paul is not even one of the 12 apostles.
BTW, it is shown that half of the new testaments are forgeries.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Heard Of Nestorian

The flood happened in Genesis 6 - 9 where it said the whole earth was covered by water, way after Genesis 2.
By logic, the garden was indeed destroyed.



All ethnic groups have the flood story because we are all decendents of Noah.

Flooded does not mean destroyed. If destroyed, why the need for the fiery cherubim to guard it? It is still guarding the garden until this age and time.

Perhaps the most remarkable extra-biblical creation story is that of the Miao people.[SUP](6)[/SUP] The Miao are an ethnic minority in southwest China, close cousins of the Hmong in Laos. Originally they lived on the south bank of the Yangtze River, in Jiangxi province; they were driven into the less desireable mountains of Sichuan and Yunnan when the Chinese migrated across the Yangtze, after 1000 B.C. Their creation story is in the form of poetry, which is kept accurate by reciting it frequently, especially at weddings and funerals. Look at all the details it shares with the first eleven chapters of Genesis:
On the day God created the heavens and earth,
On that day He opened the gateway of light,
In the earth then He made heaps of earth and of stone.
In the earth He created the hawk and the kite.
In the water created the lobster and fish.
In the wilderness made he the tiger and bear,
Made verdure to cover the mountains,
Made forest extend with the ranges,
Made the light green cane,
Made the rank bamboo.
On the earth He created a man from the dirt.
Of the man thus created, a woman He formed.
Then the Patriarch Dirt made a balance of stones.
Estimated the weight of the earth to the bottom.
Calculated the bulk of the heavenly bodies.
And pondered the ways of the Deity, God.
The Patriarch Dirt begat Patriarch Se-teh.
The Patriarch Se-teh begat a son Lusu.
And Lusu begat Gehlo and he begat Lama.
The Patriarch Lama begat the man Nuah.
His wife was the Matriarch Gaw Bo-lu-en.
Their sons were Lo Han, Lo Shen and Jah-hu.[SUP](7)[/SUP]
So the earth began filling with tribes and with families.
Creation was shared by the clans and the peoples.
These did not God's will nor returned His affection.
But fought with each other denying the Godhead.
Their leaders shook fists in the face of the Mighty,
Then the earth was convulsed to the depth of three strata.
Rending the air to uttermost heaven.
God's anger rose till His being was changed;
His wrath flaring up filled His eyes and His face.
Until He must come and demolish humanity.
Come and destroy a whole world full with people.
So it poured forty days in sheets and in torrents.
Then fifty-five days of misting and drizzle.
The waters surmounted the mountains and ranges.
The deluge ascending leapt valley and hollow.
An earth with no earth upon which to take refuge!
A world with no foothold where one might subsist!
The people were baffled, impotent and ruined,
Despairing, horror stricked, diminished and finished.
But the Patriarch Nuah was righteous.
The Matriarch Gaw Bo-lu-en upright.
Built a boat very wide,
Made a ship very vast.
Their household entire got aboard and were floated,
The family complete rode the deluge in safety.
The animals with him were female and male.
The birds went along and were mated in pairs.
When the time was fulfilled, God commanded the waters.
The day had arrived, the flood waters receded.
Then Nuah liberated a dove from their refuge,
Sent a bird to go forth and bring again tidings.
The flood had gone down into lake and to ocean;
The m&d was confined to the pools and the hollows.
There was land once again where a man might reside;
There was a place in the earth now to rear habitations.
Buffalo then were brought, an oblation to God,
Fatter cattle became sacrifice to the Mighty.
The Divine One then gave them His blessing;
Their God bestowed His good graces.
Lo-Han then begat Cusah and Mesay.
Lo-Shen begat Elan and Nga-shur.[SUP](8)[/SUP]
Their offspring begotten became tribes and peoples.
Their descendants established encampments and cities.
Their singing was all with the same tunes and music;
Their speaking was all with the same words and language.
Then they said let us build us a very big city;
Let us raise unto heaven a very high tower.
This was wrong, but they reached this decision;
Not right, but they rashly persisted.
God struck at them then, changed their language and accent.
Descending in wrath, He confused tones and voices.
One's speech to the others who hear him no meaning;
He's speaking in words, but they can't understand him.
So the city they builded was never completed;
The tower they wrought has to stand thus unfinished.
In despair then they separate under all heaven,
They part from each other the world-ball (globe) to encircle.[SUP](9)[/SUP]
They arrive at six corners and speak the six languages.
The Patriarch Jah-hu got the center of nations.
The son he begat was the patriarch Go-men.[SUP](10)[/SUP]
Who took him a wife called the Matriarch Go-Yong.
Their grandson and his wife both took the name Tutan.
Their descendants are given in order as follows:
Patriarch Gawndan Mew-wan,
Matriarch Cawdan Mew-jew;
Patriarch Jenku Dawvu, Matriarch Jeneo Boje;
Patriarch Gangen Newang (wife not given);
Patriarch Seageweng, Matriarch Maw Gueh.
Their children, eleven in number, was each the head of a family.
Five branches became the Miao nation.
Six families joined with the Chinese.