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Tan Kin Lian support thread
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Nonsense.... you have low iq sense of humour.... no talent...
Tkl will do well in presentation as a President.... but nevertheless more importantly he has great keng skillset ...
Able to Keng outside the square is natural talent skillset.... and he has this type of skillset....
Tkl workplace in insurance products has no Yes man and as such he has to develop great keng skillset to handle tratiors who want to sabo him ... he will do well and perhaps turn the Istana upside down.... this Istana premises has become a haunted places and need to get rid of bad karma... put tkl there will chase all the yes man ghost away... clean up this messy ghost haunted place Istana...
Hope this helps...
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Loong is asking for it... a lazy person take short cut type... guess he is old age now no stamina to leader... no shine and old people get bullied by young people....
He can retire now...
Fully agree that it is divisive. The contested PEs of the past, after this stupid PE scheme was introduced in 1991, were likewise. The future ones will likewise be. There is no "unifying" as the supporters of the loser/s will mock, curse and swear at the "elected" President for the next 6 years even as the "elected" President smile and wave stupidly at every Istana open house and National Day parade and pretend s/he is very popular and well liked.
There is also no authority, moral or otherwise, for the EP to act on his/her "executive" role especially if the clown receives below 50%. Imagine Phony Tan trying to exercise his powers when he could only secure 35.20% of the PE votes (2011) compared to the government which received 60.14% (2011) and 69.86% (2015) of the GE votes when Phony was in "power"? How can such clowns who can't even muster a 50% +1 threshold, claim to be "elected", or be expected to have the authority to exercise the executive part of their presidential role?
If a non-PAP government comes into power and the "PAP president" who secured less than 50% of the votes (or who secured less than what the government received during a GE) tries to hamstring it, the non-PAP Government will simply amend the constitution to scrap his/her powers if they have a 2/3 majority. Or exhort their supporters to take to the streets if they don't.
This is truly a fucking stupid and divisive scheme that has not been properly thought out. It has always been predicated on the PAP losing, and if it does, it must mean it is a "freak" election result, and the elected government, a "rouge" government.
As I said back in 2011, the PE should be scrapped and we return to the past practice of the selected ceremonial presidency.
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Oh yes… Tan Kin Lian imparting good family values.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...shaping-up-into-partisan-contest-say-analysts
He pointed to how the PAP had put forward then deputy prime minister Ong Teng Cheong as a candidate in the first presidential election in 1993 and persuaded former accountant-general Chua Kim Yeow to run against Mr Ong, so there was a contest.
In the 2011 presidential race, Mr Tan Jee Say had support from various opposition figures, including then National Solidarity Party politicians Nicole Seah and Steve Chia, as well as Mr Vincent Wijeysingha, Mr Ang Yong Guan and Dr Paul Tambyah, who were all involved with SDP at the time.
NUS associate professor of political science Chong Ja Ian said the presidency may be technically non-partisan, but remains political.
“The role is an elected one, it pertains to state resources, the symbolism of the state, and responsibilities, even if the presidency has curtailed discretion. These qualities make the position political by nature, even if the people running for office and who hold office do not have a formal political party membership,” he said.
He added that it is not surprising that political parties would be tempted to lay out some sort of position and may want to weigh in.
Dr Mustafa Izzuddin, a senior international affairs analyst at Solaris Strategies Singapore, said the polarisation of ground sentiment is being capitalised on, and some voters may treat the presidential election as a general election to show displeasure towards the government of the day.
NUS’ Prof Tan said: “I reckon both the candidates and other politicians, as well as supporters, see the stakes as very high, and they feel strongly about wanting to see their preferred outcome becoming a reality, and they believe that this presidential election offers a good opportunity for this to occur.”
Dr Kevin Tan noted that the ruling party has thrown its weight behind its preferred candidate in earlier presidential elections.
However, SMU’s Associate Professor Tan said that while the PAP had endorsed Mr Ong in the first presidential election, the Government has since come to realise that its support is not ideal, and has not explicitly endorsed any candidate.
He added that while any candidate coming from the Government will always be seen as having some form of tacit endorsement, the PAP has not given Mr Tharman an explicit endorsement in the same way that Dr Tan Cheng Bock has for Mr Tan Kin Lian.
Mr Tharman did not have any current or past politicians on his team of proposers, seconders and assenters, “because he is very conscious that he wants to draw that line, that his political affiliation has ended”, said Prof Tan.
SMU’s Prof Tan said it is no surprise that presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song, 75, has come out strongly against it, due to his positioning as the only non-partisan candidate in the race. He said because of Dr Tan’s support, there may be voters who decide to back Mr Tharman instead of Mr Ng come Friday to avoid splitting the pro-establishment vote.
At the other end, Dr Tan’s endorsement has essentially signalled to the anti-establishment segment of the electorate that their support should go to Mr Tan Kin Lian, he added.
Mr Ng, the former GIC chief investment officer, slammed the move by Dr Tan Cheng Bock on Sunday, adding that the opposition party leaders involved with Mr Tan were “dragging the presidential election into gutter politics” and dishonouring the office.
“There’s a danger that (Mr Tan Kin Lian’s) going to be manipulated by those leaders of the opposition parties,” Mr Ng added on Monday.
Prof Tan said he would not be surprised if Dr Tan’s endorsement has little effect.
“For voters who are undecided and have trouble with Mr Tan Kin Lian’s views on a variety of issues, I think Dr Tan Cheng Bock’s endorsement will not shift the needle,” he said, adding that fair-minded voters will find it hard to understand Dr Tan’s backing given the accusations of misogyny and racism from some quarters against Mr Tan Kin Lian.
Dr Tan had stated that he was supporting Mr Tan Kin Lian in his personal capacity.
On Monday, a PSP spokesman said it is not endorsing any candidate in the upcoming election, and that any support by any member for a candidate is in his own personal capacity.
However, NUS’ Prof Tan said it is hard to see Dr Tan endorsing Mr Tan Kin Lian purely as an ordinary voter, given his position as chairman of a political party and the fact that he and Mr Tan Jee Say were seen garlanded and campaigning with the candidate.
Political analyst and Nanyang Technological University associate lecturer Felix Tan said he expects Dr Tan’s endorsement to have some significance, given his sizeable following.
However, it may also complicate things for his supporters, as they may not all feel the same way about Mr Tan Kin Lian as a presidential candidate, he said.
With four days left until Singapore heads to the ballot box, analysts say it is ultimately for the voters to decide which candidate is reasonable and preferable to them.
Dr Chong reckons that the election being politicised is not necessarily good or bad. “It all depends on how the contestation plays out—whether it is above board, even-handed, competitive, and, in the case of elections, voters are able to act upon their choices freely and have those choices matter,” he said.
“It is obviously helpful if voters are fully informed about the responsibilities and limitations of the office they are voting to fill. However, voter education needs to take place consistently and over the long term, rather than in the heat of an election period, where there may be information overload.”
Dr Koh, meanwhile, urged voters to put aside considerations about party politics when electing Singapore’s ninth president, and to leave these considerations for the next general election, which is due by 2025.
She added: “This is a most difficult topic to delve into, but hopefully will be part of our maturation process as a smart electorate.”
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Elected presidency politicised from the start
Other observers, such as constitutional law expert Kevin Tan, said the presidential elections have been “politicised from day one”.He pointed to how the PAP had put forward then deputy prime minister Ong Teng Cheong as a candidate in the first presidential election in 1993 and persuaded former accountant-general Chua Kim Yeow to run against Mr Ong, so there was a contest.
In the 2011 presidential race, Mr Tan Jee Say had support from various opposition figures, including then National Solidarity Party politicians Nicole Seah and Steve Chia, as well as Mr Vincent Wijeysingha, Mr Ang Yong Guan and Dr Paul Tambyah, who were all involved with SDP at the time.
NUS associate professor of political science Chong Ja Ian said the presidency may be technically non-partisan, but remains political.
“The role is an elected one, it pertains to state resources, the symbolism of the state, and responsibilities, even if the presidency has curtailed discretion. These qualities make the position political by nature, even if the people running for office and who hold office do not have a formal political party membership,” he said.
He added that it is not surprising that political parties would be tempted to lay out some sort of position and may want to weigh in.
Dr Mustafa Izzuddin, a senior international affairs analyst at Solaris Strategies Singapore, said the polarisation of ground sentiment is being capitalised on, and some voters may treat the presidential election as a general election to show displeasure towards the government of the day.
NUS’ Prof Tan said: “I reckon both the candidates and other politicians, as well as supporters, see the stakes as very high, and they feel strongly about wanting to see their preferred outcome becoming a reality, and they believe that this presidential election offers a good opportunity for this to occur.”
Dr Kevin Tan noted that the ruling party has thrown its weight behind its preferred candidate in earlier presidential elections.
However, SMU’s Associate Professor Tan said that while the PAP had endorsed Mr Ong in the first presidential election, the Government has since come to realise that its support is not ideal, and has not explicitly endorsed any candidate.
He added that while any candidate coming from the Government will always be seen as having some form of tacit endorsement, the PAP has not given Mr Tharman an explicit endorsement in the same way that Dr Tan Cheng Bock has for Mr Tan Kin Lian.
Mr Tharman did not have any current or past politicians on his team of proposers, seconders and assenters, “because he is very conscious that he wants to draw that line, that his political affiliation has ended”, said Prof Tan.
Will Tan Cheng Bock’s support move the needle?
Observers were mixed on whether Dr Tan Cheng Bock’s endorsement would have an impact at the polls.SMU’s Prof Tan said it is no surprise that presidential hopeful Ng Kok Song, 75, has come out strongly against it, due to his positioning as the only non-partisan candidate in the race. He said because of Dr Tan’s support, there may be voters who decide to back Mr Tharman instead of Mr Ng come Friday to avoid splitting the pro-establishment vote.
At the other end, Dr Tan’s endorsement has essentially signalled to the anti-establishment segment of the electorate that their support should go to Mr Tan Kin Lian, he added.
Mr Ng, the former GIC chief investment officer, slammed the move by Dr Tan Cheng Bock on Sunday, adding that the opposition party leaders involved with Mr Tan were “dragging the presidential election into gutter politics” and dishonouring the office.
“There’s a danger that (Mr Tan Kin Lian’s) going to be manipulated by those leaders of the opposition parties,” Mr Ng added on Monday.
Prof Tan said he would not be surprised if Dr Tan’s endorsement has little effect.
“For voters who are undecided and have trouble with Mr Tan Kin Lian’s views on a variety of issues, I think Dr Tan Cheng Bock’s endorsement will not shift the needle,” he said, adding that fair-minded voters will find it hard to understand Dr Tan’s backing given the accusations of misogyny and racism from some quarters against Mr Tan Kin Lian.
Dr Tan had stated that he was supporting Mr Tan Kin Lian in his personal capacity.
On Monday, a PSP spokesman said it is not endorsing any candidate in the upcoming election, and that any support by any member for a candidate is in his own personal capacity.
However, NUS’ Prof Tan said it is hard to see Dr Tan endorsing Mr Tan Kin Lian purely as an ordinary voter, given his position as chairman of a political party and the fact that he and Mr Tan Jee Say were seen garlanded and campaigning with the candidate.
Political analyst and Nanyang Technological University associate lecturer Felix Tan said he expects Dr Tan’s endorsement to have some significance, given his sizeable following.
However, it may also complicate things for his supporters, as they may not all feel the same way about Mr Tan Kin Lian as a presidential candidate, he said.
With four days left until Singapore heads to the ballot box, analysts say it is ultimately for the voters to decide which candidate is reasonable and preferable to them.
Dr Chong reckons that the election being politicised is not necessarily good or bad. “It all depends on how the contestation plays out—whether it is above board, even-handed, competitive, and, in the case of elections, voters are able to act upon their choices freely and have those choices matter,” he said.
“It is obviously helpful if voters are fully informed about the responsibilities and limitations of the office they are voting to fill. However, voter education needs to take place consistently and over the long term, rather than in the heat of an election period, where there may be information overload.”
Dr Koh, meanwhile, urged voters to put aside considerations about party politics when electing Singapore’s ninth president, and to leave these considerations for the next general election, which is due by 2025.
She added: “This is a most difficult topic to delve into, but hopefully will be part of our maturation process as a smart electorate.”
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This Lau Chee Hong is really sick in his fucking head. I bet he has upskirt photos on his phone which this sick bastard masturbates to after consuming his tongkat ali.
Parliament should enact a Voyeurism Act punishable with a mandatory 12 year imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane (regardless of age) for sick voyeuristic bastards like this cunt.
Chill. Its a perfectly legal harmless fully clothed photo and not even like an upskirt photo, LOL.
If this Lau Chee Hong thinks it is okay to do this since it is legal, this sick fuck should take an unauthorised frontal shot of the woman he is photographing in her full knowledge, and not like a cowardly dog behind her back, or from the side whilst pretending to check his phone for messages.
This sick fuck should also try taking a photo of a "fully clothed" female in the presence of her husband, boyfriend or father and see what happens.
If this sick fuck does this to my daughter, I would crack his skull wide open. And I don't think I am the only father who will do this to sick, voyeuristic fucks like him.
Tan Kin Lian dropped out of RI because his parents could not afford the school fees.
The principal had offered him financial help through the school, but TKL told him that the assistance would not be enough to help pay living expenses for his family.
And so he left school and went out to work.
This ignorant prick is ignorant of the fact that this PE was already made political by PAP in the first place ..:
https://www.straitstimes.com/opinio...out-voting-for-or-against-any-political-party
As the presidential election moves into the final lap, I’ve heard some coffee shop talk that bothers me greatly: “Let’s use our votes to show our unhappiness with the Government”.
Despite all the clarifications made by the Elections Department, I fear many Singaporeans remain confused about Friday’s election.
When we cast our votes on Polling Day, we will be choosing an individual to be the nation’s head of state. We will be exercising our right to support this individual, and not expressing support for or disappointment with any political party.
We are voting for a president who we believe best represents Singapore and its people. Especially since Singapore is a little red dot, we need a president who can do a good job of promoting our national interests in the international arena.
When the going gets tough, Singapore needs greater unity, not combative politics.
So as we observe the three presidential candidates’ campaigns, I hope Singaporeans will judge each according to his ability and experience, and choose a person we can be proud of as the next president of Singapore.
Pang Cheng Lian
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https://www.straitstimes.com/opinio...out-voting-for-or-against-any-political-party
As the presidential election moves into the final lap, I’ve heard some coffee shop talk that bothers me greatly: “Let’s use our votes to show our unhappiness with the Government”.
Despite all the clarifications made by the Elections Department, I fear many Singaporeans remain confused about Friday’s election.
When we cast our votes on Polling Day, we will be choosing an individual to be the nation’s head of state. We will be exercising our right to support this individual, and not expressing support for or disappointment with any political party.
We are voting for a president who we believe best represents Singapore and its people. Especially since Singapore is a little red dot, we need a president who can do a good job of promoting our national interests in the international arena.
When the going gets tough, Singapore needs greater unity, not combative politics.
So as we observe the three presidential candidates’ campaigns, I hope Singaporeans will judge each according to his ability and experience, and choose a person we can be proud of as the next president of Singapore.
Pang Cheng Lian
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Why bother.... make this EP be a game changer freak election.... and throw PAP out....
船到桥头自然直 ..... no worries.... once TKL is a President of Singapore... everything is back to normal... and 新三国演义开始了....
然后 坐山观虎斗吧 .....
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