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Tan Kin Lian support thread

Scrooball (clone)

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How is he independent if he aligns with the Opposition?
The cheeky bastard obviously taking the piss on gullible voters.

PAP dog for 30 years.
Became disgruntled with PAP after he was told to F off from Income.
Now aligning with Oppo and yet runs his mouth off saying he is ‘independent’.
 

LexLuthor

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The people's president Ong Teng Cheong was sworn in as president on 01 Sep 1993.

Thirty years has passed and what we get are PAP Proxy presidents through a rigged system.

Come 01 Sep 2023 will we see Tan Kin Lian, a people's people, sworn in as People's President like Ong Teng Cheong.
KNN, OTC was an out-and-out ex-PAP minister. The situation then was no different from Tharman's situation now - another out-and-out ex-PAP minister resigned from PAP and Cabinet just to contest the EP.

How did OTC become a People's President overnight ? What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Tharman can also become a People's President if he is elected.

What did OTC do to change the lives of Singaporeans after he was elected EP ?
 

PTADER

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I do not know if he craves the limelight or not.

What i know is that he is being put in a disadvantage position by the Singapore govt by smearing him for all to see. And nothing on the Viagra flaccid salesman NKS. If there are people who can help him to put him to garner positive attention, he will welcome it. It is very clear that the govt do not want him to win, if not, the smearing will not exists.

his post on that pretty girl in the restaurant is just one of his comments of all the comments on his restaurant visit like food, ambience and service and the PAP govt just pick that one pretty girl post and highlight it till death. are people that stupid?

you mean people are not tulan that PAP govt behave in such a way to a person who try to be president for the people. People can see that very clearly.

Lau Chee Hong "pretty girl" comment is not a one-off nonsense. He has posted a whole lot of nonsense and rubbish since his time in soc.culture.singapore (late 80s - 90s). He is basically an impulsive, small-brained, loudmouthed type of character. Common sense restraint and intelligence are not his strongest suits. Balls carrying and cocksucking the PAP, and taking high resolution photos of pretty girls and their backsides, are. He is exceptionally talented in these fields.

In 2008, the egotistical and "blue-blood" Lau Chee Hong demanded the collection of a petition of "100,000 signatures of support" or else! (he would not stand in a GE or PE). In his thick head, this egotistical piece of shit was doing Singaporeans a HUUUGGE favour by standing in a GE or PE but only if they beg him to do so; just as him taking photographs of pretty girls was doing a HUUUGGE favour for his honorary member, his cock which was begging him to do so.

For those who think taking photos of pretty girls and their backsides are no big deal and it is all a "smear", imagine if the photos this lecherous Lau Chee Hong takes is that of your sister or daughter. Even worse, imagine this Lau Chee Hong masturbating to the photos of your sister or daughter that he has snapped. I think we can all agree that since the photos are that of our sister or daughter, and not someone else's, this is neither excusable nor okay.

The only smearing in all these "pretty girl" cases is that of the KY he smears on his honorable member before working hard on it.

The only "gutter" that is involved in this is the sticky mess he leaves behind on the photos of these pretty girls.
 

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Lau Chee Hong "pretty girl" comment is not a one-off nonsense. He has posted a whole lot of nonsense and rubbish since his time in soc.culture.singapore (late 80s - 90s). He is basically an impulsive, small-brained, loudmouthed type of character. Common sense restraint and intelligence are not his strongest suits. Balls carrying and cocksucking the PAP, and taking high resolution photos of pretty girls and their backsides, are. He is exceptionally talented in these fields.

In 2008, the egotistical and "blue-blood" Lau Chee Hong demanded the collection of a petition of "100,000 signatures of support" or else! (he would not stand in a GE or PE). In his thick head, this egotistical piece of shit was doing Singaporeans a HUUUGGE favour by standing in a GE or PE but only if they beg him to do so; just as him taking photographs of pretty girls was doing a HUUUGGE favour for his honorary member, his cock which was begging him to do so.

For those who think taking photos of pretty girls and their backsides are no big deal and it is all a "smear", imagine if the photos this lecherous Lau Chee Hong takes is that of your sister or daughter. Even worse, imagine this Lau Chee Hong masturbating to the photos of your sister or daughter that he has snapped. I think we can all agree that since the photos are that of our sister or daughter, and not someone else's, this is neither excusable nor okay.

The only smearing in all these "pretty girl" cases is that of the KY he smears on his honorable member before working hard on it.

The only "gutter" that is involved in this is the sticky mess he leaves behind on the photos of these pretty girls.

The pretty girl post is just one of the post of his visit to the restaurant.

If u dun like tkl, that is ur opinion. For us, there is a bigger reason to vote tkl, to prevent WEF interference to Singapore. Does this WEF thing sound important to u? Or do u really care? Just this one is enough to vote tkl in.


Just imagine, Singapore is going to be depopulated and vaccinated with the upcoming death shot and here u r picking on a tkl about a pretty girl post.

Hello.. Depopulation vs pretty girl post. Are u that cock professor who ask Tharman to stop depopulation while he is the depopulation agent.
 

po2wq

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sins ah lian announced his candidacy, ze lightning gang immediately unleashed iz ib dawgs 2 attack him ... forumers who had loong time no make post suddenly were recalled n resurrected 2 attack ah lian ... ze lightning gang is ze 1 who make tings political ...

every1 is entitled 2 their choice n ah bok etc had boldly show their preference of candidate ... n dey made it perfectly clear dat their support is in their personal capacity ... ah lian never align himself wif oppos ...
 

PTADER

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The pretty girl post is just one of the post of his visit to the restaurant.

If u dun like tkl, that is ur opinion. For us, there is a bigger reason to vote tkl, to prevent WEF interference to Singapore. Does this WEF thing sound important to u? Or do u really care? Just this one is enough to vote tkl in.


Just imagine, Singapore is going to be depopulated and vaccinated with the upcoming death shot and here u r picking on a tkl about a pretty girl post.

Hello.. Depopulation vs pretty girl post. Are u that cock professor who ask Tharman to stop depopulation while he is the depopulation agent.

Yup sure, it's all about "prevent[ing' WEF['s] interference to Singapore" and has nothing to do with the PAP.

90% of Singaporeans probably don't know what WEF stands for. The other 10% probably thinks it is about the world's wrestling federation.

Maybe email Lau Chee Hong about this WEF. The clown will shoot off his mouth and say something about Ric Flair and Bray Wyatt so long as he thinks it can pull in a few votes his way.
 

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sins ah lian announced his candidacy, ze lightning gang immediately unleashed iz ib dawgs 2 attack him ... forumers who had loong time no make post suddenly were recalled n resurrected 2 attack ah lian ... ze lightning gang is ze 1 who make tings political ...

every1 is entitled 2 their choice n ah bok etc had boldly show their preference of candidate ... n dey made it perfectly clear dat their support is in their personal capacity ... ah lian never align himself wif oppos ...

Times are tough. The PAP pays me 50 cents per post. It helps me get by in these tough times.
 

xingguy

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The people's president Ong Teng Cheong was sworn in as president on 01 Sep 1993.

Thirty years has passed and what we get are PAP Proxy presidents through a rigged system.

Come 01 Sep 2023 will we see Tan Kin Lian, a people's people, sworn in as People's President like Ong Teng Cheong.
KNN, OTC was an out-and-out ex-PAP minister. The situation then was no different from Tharman's situation now - another out-and-out ex-PAP minister resigned from PAP and Cabinet just to contest the EP.

How did OTC become a People's President overnight ? What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Tharman can also become a People's President if he is elected.

What did OTC do to change the lives of Singaporeans after he was elected EP ?

Obviously you are just spewing rubbish without some decent research into Ong Teng Cheong.

Tharman can't even hold a candle to Ong Teng Cheong.

This is what he done even before becoming a president:

1. As a Senior Minister of State for Communications, he was notable for pushing for an extensive rail network in the country, now known as the Mass Rapid Transit (MRT), the largest construction project in Singapore's history.
During his tenure as Minister for Communications, Ong continued to be a proponent and advocate of the MRT system, often coming at odds with his fellow political colleagues who were against such an idea.
Even 35% KFC was against it. Despite the strong opposition against the MRT system, Ong soldiered on and tenaciously pushed for its construction.

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2. In January 1986, Ong sanctioned a strike in the shipping industry, the first for about a decade in Singapore, believing it was necessary as "[the] management were taking advantage of the workers".
However, he did not inform the Cabinet beforehand out of fear that the Cabinet would prevent him from going ahead with the strike.
Ong recalled in a 2000 interview in Asiaweek: "Some of them were angry with me about that... the Minister for Trade and Industry was very angry, his officers were upset. They had calls from America, asking what happened to Singapore?"

Minister for Trade and Industry Tony Tan, vigorously opposed Ong Teng Cheong's decision to sanction the strike, being concerned with investors' reactions to a perceived deterioration of labour relations or an impact on foreign direct investment needed for jobs creation. Ong Teng Cheong viewed the strike as a success: "I had the job to do... [the strike] only lasted two days. All the issues were settled. It showed the management was just trying to pull a fast one."
What did Tharman do all this year in government that benefitted the people?

Tharman was one of the 77 that voted yes in the 6.9m Population White Paper.


The 6.9m cause one of the largest protest in Hong Lim Park.
Tan Kin Lian was one of the speaker in that protest.



Tharman allow Ivan Lim, who have withdraw from election, to speak in his election win speech.

Tharman's allegience is to the PAP and not the people.

So, Tharman is not and never will be people's president.
 

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As usual, it's never Lau Chee Hong's fault. And certainly very presidential to talk publicly on social media about his purchase of "tongkat ali" (a Malay-based aphrodisiac).

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Tharman is very 'independent' indeed... so why didn't NKS make noise on this? LOL..
https://www.ntuc.org.sg/uportal/new...ugaratnams-intention-to-stand-in-the-PE-2023/

NTUC supports Senior Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam’s intention to stand in the Presidential Election 2023​

Tharman Shanmugaratnam will resign from the People’s Action Party and step down as Senior Minister and Coordinating Minister for Social Policies on 7 July 2023.
By Shukry Rashid 08 Jun 2023

The Labour Movement wholeheartedly supports Senior Minister and Coordinating Minister for Social Policies Tharman Shanmugaratnam’s intention to stand in the upcoming Presidential Election 2023, said NTUC in a statement on 8 June 2023.

The statement was signed by NTUC President Mary Liew and NTUC Secretary-General Ng Chee Meng.

“Brother Tharman takes a keen interest in ensuring workers benefit from economic transformation. Brother Tharman’s extensive contributions to the Labour Movement encompass various workforce needs,” said NTUC.

NTUC’s statement came after Mr Tharman’s letter to Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on the same day regarding his intention to put himself as a presidential candidate and his wish to retire from politics and all Government positions.

He will resign from the People’s Action Party and step down as Senior Minister and Coordinating Minister for Social Policies on 7 July 2023.

Mr Tharman has been the chairman of the Ong Teng Cheong Labour Leadership Institute (OTCi) Board of Governors since 2002.

He has supported doubling training placement for union leaders, management representatives and government officers at OTCi and introduced more flexible and accessible learning methods.

The institute also expanded its focus beyond industrial relations to a broader range of courses to meet the needs of union leaders in tandem with changing economic trends and conditions.

“Through it all, Brother Tharman believes that union leaders play an important role in helping enterprises grow and uplifting workers’ livelihoods,” said NTUC.

In a Facebook post, Mr Ng said: “Brother Tharman is a longtime friend of NTUC and our union leaders. His incredible vision and wisdom, coupled with a certain unassuming sense of warmth and humility, has benefitted union leaders and workers far and wide in the past few decades.”

In a separate Facebook post, NTUC Vice President Abdul Samad Abdul Wahab added: “He strongly supported leaders across unions, companies and Government agencies to invest in training and introduced new ways to learn. He held to his belief that leaders should walk the talk and be role models for workers and their employees."

OTCi Director Jessie Yeo added: “I was humbled by his deep concern for training of union leaders and how the institute could have more training not just for union leaders, but also industrial relations officers as well as management partners. He stressed that tripartism is important and we have to develop it and make it sustainable.

“He is the right candidate [for the presidency] with a heart for the people. He has no airs and is humble and always willing to listen.”

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Senior Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam (front row, centre, in blue shirt) at the Ong Teng Cheong Labour Leadership Institute Graduation Ceremony 2022.​

Advancement of tripartism

Mr Tharman has advocated the advancement of tripartism through key councils he chaired, the National Productivity Council, SkillsFuture Council, and subsequently, the Council for Skills, Innovation and Productivity.

Through his involvement in the councils, he has engaged NTUC and other tripartite partners to formulate and implement policies that promote sustainable economic growth, social progress, and labour rights and enhance workers’ training and lifelong employability.

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The Singapore Tripartism Forum 2012 featured a dialogue with Tharman Shanmugaratnam (second from left).​

Development and implementation of the Progressive Wage Model

Mr Tharman also played a significant role in developing and implementing the Progressive Wage Model (PWM).

As Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance when the PWM was announced in 2012, he actively supported and advocated the adoption of the PWM together with NTUC.

He galvanised the Government’s commitment to the PWM and emphasised the importance of fair wages and career progression for lower-wage workers.

Mr Tharman referred to the PWM as a “Minimum Wage Plus”, highlighting the importance of workers’ upskilling in tandem with wage improvements for sustainable career growth.

Leader amongst unionists

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Tharman Shanmugaratnam received the Medal of Honour award at the May Day Awards 2017 ceremony.​

NTUC calls Mr Tharman “an unassuming and approachable leader among unionists, one who makes a genuine effort to engage with, understand and address unionists’ and workers’ aspirations and concerns.”

Mr Tharman has served as an advisor to two unions – the Singapore Industrial and Services Employees’ Union (SISEU) from February 2007 to March 2012 and the Chemical Industries Employees’ Union (CIEU) from April 2002 to January 2007.

During his tenure, his invaluable guidance led to the growth of CIEU’s membership.

His guidance also established a solid financial footing for SISEU and positioned it for further expansion.

SISEU General Secretary Richard Sim said the union is supportive of Mr Tharman's intention to stand for the Presidential Election. He called Mr Tharman a well-respected figure whom workers and business leaders look up to and added that Singapore will have a good standing among other nations should he be elected.

CIEU General Secretary S Tamilvanan said CIEU is also supportive of Mr Tharman's intention to run for the presidency.

He said: “Brother Tharman is very compassionate towards workers, and we appreciate the engagements he had with us to understand ground concerns. We are happy that he has indicated his intention to stand in the Presidential Election 2023 and we are confident that our workers will support him.”

NTUC added: “Brother Tharman sincerely listened to and understood the concerns of workers and the needs of management partners, contributing to the formation of policies that uplift their lives.”

NTUC conferred on Mr Tharman the Medal of Honour in 2017, the highest award of the year, for his outstanding contributions to the Labour Movement.

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https://mothership.sg/2023/08/presidential-candidate-debate-2023/

1st & only live debate among presidential candidates at 9pm on Aug. 28​

Tune in.

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August 28, 2023, 12:47 PM

Presidential candidates Ng Kok Song, Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Tan Kin Lian have been invited to the presidential forum hosted by Mediacorp tonight (Aug. 28) at 9pm. This will be the first and only live debate during the 2023 presidential election.

Live broadcast​

The presidential forum will be broadcast live on CNA tonight (Aug. 28) at 9 pm.

This will also be live-streamed on CNA’s YouTube and Facebook channels, with a repeated telecast on Channel 5 on Aug. 29.

The other three broadcasts are recorded prior to their release.

The first “Presidential Candidate Broadcast” was televised on Aug. 24, and the second “Presidential Candidate Broadcast” will be aired on Aug. 30.

SPH Media Trust also released a video of presidential candidates answering questions from younger Singaporeans on their website and social media platforms yesterday (Aug. 27).

While the topics of the forum have not been announced, issues which may arise include the independence of the presidency and the politicising of the 2023 presidential elections.

Will all candidates be present?

At this moment, it is uncertain if all candidates will be present at the forum.

Preparing for the debate​

Ng, Tharman and Tan have been meeting residents on the ground over the past week, visiting about one to two locations each day.

Tan and Tharman did not make their respective rounds on Aug. 28.

Ng continued with his walkabouts and made an appearance this morning at Ayer Rajah Food Centre, and will be at Lau Pa Sat in the afternoon.
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https://mothership.sg/2023/08/presidential-candidate-debate-2023/

1st & only live debate among presidential candidates at 9pm on Aug. 28​

Tune in.

Alfie Kwa |
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August 28, 2023, 12:47 PM

Presidential candidates Ng Kok Song, Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Tan Kin Lian have been invited to the presidential forum hosted by Mediacorp tonight (Aug. 28) at 9pm. This will be the first and only live debate during the 2023 presidential election.

Live broadcast​

The presidential forum will be broadcast live on CNA tonight (Aug. 28) at 9 pm.

This will also be live-streamed on CNA’s YouTube and Facebook channels, with a repeated telecast on Channel 5 on Aug. 29.

The other three broadcasts are recorded prior to their release.

The first “Presidential Candidate Broadcast” was televised on Aug. 24, and the second “Presidential Candidate Broadcast” will be aired on Aug. 30.

SPH Media Trust also released a video of presidential candidates answering questions from younger Singaporeans on their website and social media platforms yesterday (Aug. 27).

While the topics of the forum have not been announced, issues which may arise include the independence of the presidency and the politicising of the 2023 presidential elections.

Will all candidates be present?

At this moment, it is uncertain if all candidates will be present at the forum.

Preparing for the debate​

Ng, Tharman and Tan have been meeting residents on the ground over the past week, visiting about one to two locations each day.

Tan and Tharman did not make their respective rounds on Aug. 28.

Ng continued with his walkabouts and made an appearance this morning at Ayer Rajah Food Centre, and will be at Lau Pa Sat in the afternoon.
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9pm from now still about 4 hours.
Tkl can consider coming to me urgently at a consultancy charges of $1k/hr for a trick or 2 to bring down the other 2 during the live debate :geek:
Usage of right choice of words and key statement to bring down high level executive is part of my resume :geek:
 

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NKS need your help. Can pls help him?

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/n...-leaders-supporting-tan-presidential-election

Ng Kok Song says his presidential bid 'will be impacted' by opposition leaders supporting Tan Kin Lian​

Ng Kok Song says his presidential bid 'will be impacted' by opposition leaders supporting Tan Kin Lian

Ng Kok Song during a doorstop on Aug 28 at Ayer Rajah Food Centre.
PHOTO: AsiaOne

Will his presidential bid be impacted by opposition leaders supporting fellow presidential candidate Tan Kin Lian? Ng Kok Song thinks so.

On Sunday (Aug 27), Tan Kin Lian announced an endorsement by former 2011 presidential candidate Dr Tan Cheng Bock, who made a surprise visit during a walkabout at People's Park Food Centre.

Accompanying them was Tan Jee Say, another former 2011 presidential candidate, as well as Tan Kin Lian's proposer for his presidential bid this year.

"The implication is that by the opposition party leaders supporting Mr Tan Kin Lian's bid, I will be badly impacted," 75-year-old Ng told reporters during a doorstop at Ayer Rajah Food Centre on Monday morning (Aug 28).

He elaborated on how the announcement is a "devious motive to confuse the people of Singapore" and that they have "converted this presidential election into a general election".

"This is wrong. This is very, very wrong. Why can't the political parties concerned wait for two years for the next general election? Why confuse the people of Singapore? So I don't think the people of Singapore will be happy about this," he said.

He added that if opposition party leaders want to make their political points, they should wait until the general elections scheduled to be held by November 2025.

"This is not the time to do it during the presidential election," Ng said.

However, he also admitted that a part of him is "quite happy that this has happened".

"Why? Because sometimes, bad things need to happen to put a bad situation right," said Ng.

"So we might say, well, that was a bad thing. Yes. But it shows that it is time for a change."

Tan should not be considered an independent candidate: Ng​

He also elaborated about the "politicisation" of the presidential election, and how Tan should not be considered an independent candidate as he has opposition politicians supporting him.

"How can Tan Kin Lian say he is an independent candidate when he's dependent on those opposition party leaders? What sort of independence is that?" He queried.

Ng once again maintained his independent candidate stance.

"In this presidential election, we have one candidate who is being supported by some opposition parties.

"We have another candidate who is endorsed by the government. I am the only candidate who is not supported nor endorsed by any political party," he said.

'Form of corruption': Ng​

Ng went on to say that if those who support Tan are appointed as advisors to the Council of Presidential Advisers (CPA) if the latter becomes the head of state, it may be a "form of corruption".

He was referencing Tan's comments on Sunday that Dr Tan and his proposer Tan Jee Say would be excellent candidates for the CPA.

"There's a danger that he's going to be manipulated by those leaders of the opposition parties," said Ng.

He later clarified that he was not ascribing any criminal intent, but was suggesting that such an act could be seen as a moral perversion of the CPA.
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TKL know he will look like a damn clown if he were to debate against the other 2. It will be like taking a bicycle to an F1 race.
Who knows? Maybe he will take 12 slices of tongkat ali at 8pm as his debate prep, and will be up and throbbing, and ready to ravish both candidates at 9 pm.

Tharman and NKS had better keep an eye on his honourable member and be ready to run for their fucking lives if they see a big bulge in Lau Chee Hong's pants.
 
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