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Chitchat Support ROC Independence! Don't forget the atrocities of the commie crooks!

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  1. kryonlight

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    Let not their blood and tears be in vain!

    [video=youtube;FZSmRrixS54]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZSmRrixS54[/video]
     
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    u do realise if the kmt won the war they would be the commie chinks themselves no?its just a matter of whose in charge.and america's and japans downfall would come even sooner cause china would embrace capitalism 30 years sooner,in fact japan might not even reach the height of prosperity they have cause china would eat away all their market share,and the world will be speaking mandarin today.
     
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    No point talking about "IF". The KMT lost and Taiwan is now a full-fledged democracy. History is never about "IF". There is only the NOW.
     
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    How cum Sillypore NO Full-Fledged Democracy?
     
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    according to einstein's law of relativity,NOW is always a subsequent byproduct of THEN and IF.there is no now without the past.
     
  6. kryonlight

    kryonlight Alfrescian (Inf)

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    That's right. The KMT lost in the past and now Taiwan is a full-fledged democracy. No point talking about "IF THE KMT HAD WON" scenario because it's all lost in the quantum wave function that has already collapsed donkey years ago. Nobody knows what the result would be if the quantum wave function collapsed the other way, and it's pointless to talk about it.
     
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    I do not have any political affiliation (to commies, or others). However between PRC and ROC, I would select Taiwan. I cannot see myself living in a country that does not permit religious freedom, enforces population control, and has travel restrictions. And no rock music (unless its government endorsed!).

    Cheers!
     
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    Unforgettable movie, they should not be forgotten.

    风 太大了 难道只是为了吹干眼泪
    雨 太急了 仿佛真是为了洗去哀伤
    山 太高了 难道只因早已无处可躲
    河 太宽了 仿佛注定永远无法渡过

    *鲜血浸透了土地也开不出花
     永远短暂如彩虹抓也抓不住

    Even with fresh blood saturating the ground, fresh flowers will not grow.
    Forever as transient as the rainbow, one can never hope to hold on to.

    #我们没有家 我们没有家


    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kryonlight again.
     
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    Japan will invade China again once Taiwan declares independence.

    When Chinese fights, foreigners win!
     
  10. carnage

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    Regardless how many millions will die freeing Taiwan from PRC, the 5 star flag will still rise there.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/china/2016/10/161021_taiwan_china_military

    中国军方前高官建议为“武统”台湾做准备

    郑仲岚 BBC中文网台湾特约记者

    2016年 10月 21日

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    解放军南京军区原副司令员王洪光星期五(10月21日)撰文表示,蔡英文政府的台独意图明显,以“反分裂法”制裁的条件显现,这篇文章在台湾引起关注。

    王洪光在文章中表示,蔡英文自从就任总统后,不提“九二共识”和“一中原则”,已触怒大陆,并建议大陆开始就“武统作准备”

    他说,蔡英文表示“不会屈服中国压力”与“力抗中国压力”等用语是彻底拒绝了中国大陆的善意,以及替蔡英文预留“未完成的答卷”。

    而蔡英文所提名的三位大法官人选,都直接或间接表态“不认同中华民国”,更是明显的“台独行径”。

    他在文中呼吁,之前大陆制定“反分裂法”的武统条件之一“和平统一可能性消失”正愈发明显,必要时可以在台地理环境下,进行武装夺取台湾的“战备阶段”。
    台湾关注

    台湾澹江大学国际关係暨战略研究所博士前国防专家立委林郁方办公室主任揭仲接受BBC中文网记者访问时表示:“这是一贯方式”。

    他并认为“共军会有很多鹰派将领,常这样出来轮流撰文发言,有时候也是『故意的』,需要在舆论上给台湾压力,在国际上对钓鱼台等其他地区,都是一样”。

    揭仲向中文网记者表示:“大陆在年初才刚实施军改,现在要做任何的军事行动都是最不可能,他们自己的组织内部还在调整,现在对中共军队自己是多事之秋,这次军改幅度很大,很多单位也新成立,都在做移拨”。

    中国大陆在今年的2月实施作战区域改制,原先的“七大军区”改为“五大战区”,其中东部战区的陆军机关驻地就位于福建省福州市,距离台湾仅馀几百公里。

    王洪光在文中也表示,要活用“东部战区”的精锐力量,在近几年实战化的训练基础上,加强备战训练跟演习。

    当时许多台湾媒体也认为,这样的改制是在因应台湾由民进党执政后,所调整的一些军事动作。

    但台湾军事专家施孝玮,则对BBC中文网表示:“我觉得是既有调整,目前看不出是针对台湾”。

    揭仲认为,任何的作战区改革后都需要长期演练,甚至磨合期,因此他认为2020年是比较关键的时刻:“组织也好、战术也好、主战装备也好,到了2020年会比较到位”。

    他再补充:“台湾国防部目前的评估,也是以2020年作为一个基础,台方也会就陆方组织调整、军改进度去预测陆方的完整时程,大陆部队组织很庞大,要达成目的需要较久时间”。

    对于2020年是否真的牵一髮动全身,揭仲也说:“除非2020年前,大陆有认为台方有做出他们自认违反『反分裂法』的举动,否则不太会进入武力冲突”。

    谈到蔡英文,揭仲也认为她会一直紧抓“维持现状”不会再同过去陈水扁时期喊“一边一国”,这对大陆当局来说也是个难题。除非陆方有找到一个点,明确表示台湾触碰“反分裂法”,否则谈用武力都还太早。
    台湾大选前的警告

    今年初,台湾大选举行前,王洪光撰文称,若蔡英文当选,绝不姑息养奸。

    文章还批评蔡英文,尽管大陆“官方频频向岛内喊话,再三强调九二共识”,“蔡英文仍一意孤行,拒不承认九二共识,不承认一个中国,用所谓维持现状、不挑衅、多沟通等说辞来麻痹敷衍民意”,“是不是把大陆的警告当作耳旁风了?”

    在谈到蔡英文上台后的两岸关系时,文章预计:没有“九二共识”的蔡英文一旦上台,“绝没有什么听其言、观其行的缓冲期。”

    文章警告称:蔡英文及其“台独”势力,不要心存侥幸,大陆不会咽下“台独”的苦果,不会与“台独”沟通。
     
  11. tanwahtiu

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    The french tried to invade China unsuccessfully in 1870s and as such it set back Chinese to trust Westerners and crush democracy. A then poor nation after the war only think of tightened the belt to begin rebuilding the nation. Taiwan was not ready for democracy but fake it. Americans did want a poor Taiwan to control the people. So what democracy?
     
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    别看这些苦苦啼啼的台湾歌仔戏了。等武统杀戮完成了,人死够了才一次过去哭够。现在还早啦!2017必是武统年。
     
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    Excellent! Just lure Taipei DPP green fur turtles to come out and talk like yourself. Beijing had long awaited for this day. When PLA starts show within 3 days and you will see no more DPP govt. All the green fur turtles smashed and burnt. You pulled the trigger!

    有没有看过正港的台独绿毛龟?
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    Because PAP do not want chinese to behave like malays.
     
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    President Trump's inauguration is on January 20, 2017

    President Tsai is going to transit in Taiwan before his inauguration. Will they meet up?
     
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    Brother, this is a damn good classic and superior acting even by the supporting cast ! watched about 30 years ago.
     
  18. wuqi256

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    Refuge in Thailand[edit]
    In 1961, Tuan led some 4,000 battle-weary KMT troops out of Burma to a mountainous sanctuary in Mae Salong in Thailand. In exchange for asylum, the Thai government allowed them to stay on the understanding that they would assist in policing the area against communist infiltration.[7] As a result, most of the village's inhabitants today are ethnic Chinese and direct descendants of those KMT soldiers. At the same time, General Lee of the 3rd Regiment established his headquarters at Tham Ngob, north-west of Chiang Mai.[8] The KMT army was renamed "Chinese Irregular Forces" (CIF) and was placed directly under the control of a special task force, code-named "04", commanded by Bangkok.[5]

    After the soldiers reached Mae Salong, China and Thailand struck an agreement to transfer the administration of the group to the Thai government. The provincial governor of southern Thailand, Pryath Samanmit, was reassigned as the governor of Chiang Rai, to oversee the KMT division, but upon taking up his position, Samanmit was killed by communist insurgents. Soon afterwards, the KMT division was ordered to assist the Thai government to counter the advancing armies on Thailand's northern borders and the internal threat from the Communist Party of Thailand.[9] Fierce battles were fought in the mountains of Doi Laung, Doi Yaw, Doi Phamon, and Mae Aabb, and the communist uprising was successfully countered. The bloodiest operation was launched on 10 December 1970, a five-year-long campaign that claimed over 1,000 lives, many from landmines. It was not until 1982 that the soldiers were able to give up their arms and were discharged to settle down to a normal life at Mae Salong. As a reward for their service, the Thai government gave citizenship to most of the KMT soldiers and their families.[9]

    Despite the Thai government's attempts to integrate the KMT division and their families into the Thai nation, the inhabitants of Mae Salong preferred for many years to engage in the illegal opium trade, alongside the drug warlord Khun Sa of the Shan United Army.[3] In 1967, Tuan said in an interview with a British journalist:

    We have to continue to fight the evil of communism, and to fight you must have an army, and an army must have guns, and to buy guns you must have money. In these mountains, the only money is opium.[10]

    — Gen Tuan Shi-wen, Weekend Telegraph (London), 10 March 1967
    According to a CIA report in 1971, Mae Salong was then one of the largest heroin refineries in south-east Asia.[11] Only in the late 1980s, after Khun Sa's army was finally routed and pushed over the border into Myanmar by the Thai military, was the Thai government able to make any headway in taming the region – part of which involved crop substitution plans and giving the area a new name. Santikhiri meaning "hill of peace" was introduced by the Thai government in an effort to disassociate the area from its former image as an established opium zone.[12] King Bhumibol Adulyadej and other members of the royal family made regular visits as a sign of their support for the old soldiers who had fought against their own country for Thailand.
     
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    没问题啦!

    可以支持台湾独立的。唯一条件就是台湾要首先反攻大陆。去教训一下共产党。把共产党给打服气了。我们都一起支持台湾独立。而且是中华老大。怎样?快点干!
     

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