The question is..... Is singtel too important to fail? Will govt allow it?
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Serious Singtel Shares Collapsed - Sinkie Inc now a Dried Up and Senile Old Prostitute!
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Welcome back Sir.
Where hv u been.?
Ahhhh... Ur missing during election time.... Busy busy ahhh....
Where hv u been.?
Ahhhh... Ur missing during election time.... Busy busy ahhh....
nice to hear you buddy ..tks for the welcome
telecoms is one of the best industries to be in,why would they fail?
because of falling talktime?then just jack up internet prices then......and throttle data......
offer 20g data package,but throttle it to hell 300kbs unless they pay for the $80 per month 50g premium package.cmon singtel where are ur balls?hire saw piak hwa to run the show
i remember singtel used to be the crown jewel of SG companies.......64 billion market cap,16 billion revenues a year and nearly 3.4b net profit.......how many companies can boast of a 25% profit margin?
even smrt is puny compared to it.....2 billion revenues a year and barely 100 million profit....
because of falling talktime?then just jack up internet prices then......and throttle data......
offer 20g data package,but throttle it to hell 300kbs unless they pay for the $80 per month 50g premium package.cmon singtel where are ur balls?hire saw piak hwa to run the show
i remember singtel used to be the crown jewel of SG companies.......64 billion market cap,16 billion revenues a year and nearly 3.4b net profit.......how many companies can boast of a 25% profit margin?
even smrt is puny compared to it.....2 billion revenues a year and barely 100 million profit....
what....so ur saying singtel shares is just a bubble?
Not panic. Wishful.
I had pretty much explained in simple terms what is the book value and the value traded in stock market
most who trade in stock market are simply gamblers ...they gamble on the premise of stock or share price going up or down based on future earnings ...NOT what the company is actually worth
this is where people like Warren Buffett differs...he looks at the book value and future potentials
again ,book value is not so simple either ...it also can hide many things ,for eg if the company is being sued and about to go bankrupt it will not reflect in the books or company can hide the real value of its assets too ...for eg.OCBC use to hold gold as it's reserve...but the value was very very low,think 30dollars an ounce or something like that ..but if you sell than it would fetch 10times more in the open market ...Simply, OCBC shares were worth much much more than book value
again book value may also not reflect reality ..suppose a company bought 1 million machinery ...company law allows say 10% depreciation ..so after a year the value in the book is 900k...but suppose if you want to sell and nobody buys except karang Guni...than the book value is useless
simply put ..the share value of a company in stock market is simply fictitious
but the real problem is the government getting into this gamble
as any lawyer will tell you about caveat emptor ..Meaning buyers beware
but when the government sell ,it does carry an element of trust worthiness ...this is where PAP screwd us
it's alright for people to gamble but the government should not get involved
but what a company is actually worth is based on its revenues/profits no?
and what people think its worth is how the company has been doing so far,and what people think the company will do in the future...or it could be like amazon,where the profit is zero for many years because the ceo decide he rather reinvest all the profits into growing the company then declare a profit......
book value is seldom the same as stock price......its just the assets of the company?
first and foremost please search and understand what is a balance sheet ...the law require every company to draw a balance sheet ,whether pte co or public company or even partnership and etc
a balance sheet reflects the health of the company...in one side all the assets it owns on the other side what or whom and how much it owes...Simply put if your banker ask you what yourself is worth...than you have to submit what you own in assets, cash ,jewlleries and what you owe like you housing mortgage and car loan and etc...from that the banker can conclude whether to loan you how much and what is your nett worth
companies are pretty much the same and it's balance sheet can tell you that ...of course ,companies can also cheat and there are many ways
again profits and cash flow is two different cattle of fishes .... a company can make huge profits but no cash in hand ...and sometimes indeed can go bankrupt..and many did
I cannot explain the entire businees structure shorty in this thread
but just remember ,the book value which is the assetts minus liablities ....but even than if all your profits are in the hands of debtors ...Meaning people owing you and you cannot collect ...even if you book value is sky high ,totally useless because you cannot pay even your staff
hence ,real investors also look into the management of a company before putting their monies in their stock or shares
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That appears unusual
Probably like someone said, fund managers moving out of Asia.
Because Familee relative CEO Chua Suck Cock caused Singtel to lose tons of money with 'strategic investments' in Australia and India.
There's mole to come......Because Familee relative CEO Chua Suck Cock caused Singtel to lose tons of money with 'strategic investments' in Australia and India.
much more than that lahBecause Familee relative CEO Chua Suck Cock caused Singtel to lose tons of money with 'strategic investments' in Australia and India.
Singtel spent billions and billions laying underground cable across the globe ...all that monies spent is Kapooom with new technologies ...satellite communication had practically made all that monies sunk in the seas and all its monies alao spent in infrastructures are now for Karung Guni
this what happens when you are not a innovator but hope to ride on the coattails of technologies which were invented by others....China will also face the same predicament if they keep on stealing and copying
Communist cuntries all sama sama.
Those who gamble in stock market are actually playing with a private company.
HV u seen a company account book which has a section called stock market profit and loss?
It's all just speculating base on company performance which has nothing to do with the actual company...
HV u seen a company account book which has a section called stock market profit and loss?
It's all just speculating base on company performance which has nothing to do with the actual company...
If we only invest based on book value, then Tesla will prob be worth $10. Haha
2 things Comes to my mind. size and profitability.
Singtel owe it ability to grow into giant because it has a backing of government of Singapore.
As for profit sustainability, the government feed them with business and opening.
Singtel is never a innovator nor a shrewed investor.
Singtel owe it ability to grow into giant because it has a backing of government of Singapore.
As for profit sustainability, the government feed them with business and opening.
Singtel is never a innovator nor a shrewed investor.
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Apparently she was quite a catch when young in junior college.
Same goes for NTUC Fairprice. It grew thanks to PAP political patronage. Otherwise, Savewell and Emporium might have thrived, or Tesco or Aeon could have set up a supermarket chain here.
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