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Sincere call for KJ to withdraw and endorse LLL

Lee Lian is not expeted to win.... but if they field GG or JJ. there will be that pressure

As I mentioned in a previous thread, from their first rally I got the impression that WP will find it difficult to prevail.
The turnout was far far less than I expected, hence I said there will little reason for me to have driven there early.
 
here is KJ blog, http://sonofadud.com/

you ctrl F and see how many time he mention free market and capitalism...

his ideology is the exact opposite of SDP

pls rebut that ... any1 can cut and paste



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism

"Sweden
The Swedish Socialists formed a government in 1932. They broke with economic orthodoxy during the depression and carried out extensive public works financed from government borrowing. They emphasised large-scale intervention and the high unemployment they had inherited was eliminated by 1938. Their success encouraged the adoption of Keynesian policies of deficit financing pursued by almost all Western countries after World War II."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics

"Two aspects of Keynes's model has implications for policy:
First, there is the "Keynesian multiplier", first developed by Richard F. Kahn in 1931. Exogenous increases in spending, such as an increase in government outlays, increases total spending by a multiple of that increase. A government could stimulate a great deal of new production with a modest outlay if:

The people who receive this money then spend most on consumption goods and save the rest.

This extra spending allows businesses to hire more people and pay them, which in turn allows a further increase in consumer spending.

This process continues. At each step, the increase in spending is smaller than in the previous step, so that the multiplier process tapers off and allows the attainment of an equilibrium. This story is modified and moderated if we move beyond a "closed economy" and bring in the role of taxation: The rise in imports and tax payments at each step reduces the amount of induced consumer spending and the size of the multiplier effect.

Second, Keynes re-analyzed the effect of the interest rate on investment..."
 
All KJ and DL need to do is chip away at Ah Lian's 41%. They can both afford to lose the deposit. Kenneth took the cash out of his wallet. That will strengthen their hand in 2016.

how does not having any support strengthen your hand
 
As I mentioned in a previous thread, from their first rally I got the impression that WP will find it difficult to prevail.
The turnout was far far less than I expected, hence I said there will little reason for me to have driven there early.


glenda is 1 of the 1st few speaker, if you dun not want to miss her speech please be there early
 
here is KJ blog, http://sonofadud.com/

you ctrl F and see how many time he mention free market and capitalism...

his ideology is the exact opposite of SDP

pls rebut that ... any1 can cut and paste

Your calling KJ a free market capitalist is correct.

Your saying that a free market capitalist is the same thing as a Keynesian is wrong. The links that I put up show that Keynes believed in using the government budget to intervene in the economy. (Therefore your statement that Keynes does not support microeconomic intervention is wrong).

KJ is objecting to Temasek and GIC because it is intervention in the market. But this sort of intervention in the market is very different from other government's intervention in the market - he is saying that we shouldn't be running so many surpluses in the government.

SDP is objecting to the government is taking too much money away from the people, not because they are intervening in the market. In fact they believe that government should pump more money to the people, raising taxes if necessary.

Both are objecting to government surpluses, but for different reasons.
 
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I don't think it's WP's view that anyone needs to withdraw.

Got this from somewhere. "Mr Low (Thia Khiang) also said the WP respects the right of all parties to contest any constituencies and that the party remains focused on supporting its candidate Lee Li Lian."

There is no right or wrong opinion but there are facts and errors.

Yes, I think I remember LTK said that (WP respect the right of all parties to contest any constituencies. ..)

If that is how the party boss feels, why are all WP supporters keep asking other opposition to withdraw....
 
I didn't start this thread for the benefit of WP.

I started this thread for the benefit of KJ. Other than withdrawing and endorsing LLL, there is no other viable strategy to play. At this point of the game, I don't think there is anything to suggest that KJ can win. Even loss of deposit is pretty much a given.

The request to do the right thing implies it is for the benefit of WP.

One man's meat another man's poison. What seems to be benefit for KJ to you, may not be benefit to KJ himself.
 
KJ has his own mind and can think for himself. As I understand it, the message has been received. We will have to see if he acts on it.

The request to do the right thing implies it is for the benefit of WP.

One man's meat another man's poison. What seems to be benefit for KJ to you, may not be benefit to KJ himself.
 
Yes, I think I remember LTK said that (WP respect the right of all parties to contest any constituencies. ..)

If that is how the party boss feels, why are all WP supporters keep asking other opposition to withdraw....

It's only a small (but loud) minority of WP supporters that are asking others to withdraw.
 
glenda is 1 of the 1st few speaker, if you dun not want to miss her speech please be there early

i only listen to uncle lim's hokkien speech b4 adjourn to kopitiam for dinner. then come back to listen to what the heavyweights have to said.
 
Yes, I think I remember LTK said that (WP respect the right of all parties to contest any constituencies. ..)

If that is how the party boss feels, why are all WP supporters keep asking other opposition to withdraw....

er.. i wp supporter but i respect everyone rights to contest. personally i wont stop anyone from burning his/her own $$.
 
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If that is how the party boss feels, why are all WP supporters keep asking other opposition to withdraw....

WP supporters are entitled to their different opinion.

Where and when they agree with WP, they may also be accused of following the party they support blindly.
 
By telling the WP that, look, if you try to come to Choa Chu Kang, we will go to Hougang and Punggol East and Aljunied. We may get 15%. We may get only 5% and lose our deposit. But we may also tip the scales against you.

You want us to stay away from Hougang and East Coast and Aljunied and Joo Chiat. Fine. We want Moumein Kallang. We want Nee Soon.

Finally the other opposition parties are learning to keep WP in check. :)

how does not having any support strengthen your hand
 
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this piece of shit should heed to the call of the general public.
 
Yes, that is the prevailing WP view. Unfortunately 60% of Singaporeans do not agree with you. And the remaining 40% is going to get pissed with how you treat other opposition candidates.

this piece of shit should heed to the call of the general public.
 
I never say free market capitalist is the same thing as a Keynesian ...

the latter is a subset of the former....

in any case, it was KJ who call himself Keynesian free market capitalist
 
Yes, that is the prevailing WP view. Unfortunately 60% of Singaporeans do not agree with you. And the remaining 40% is going to get pissed with how you treat other opposition candidates.

You are saying that the people telling RP to step aside are the 60% that voted for PAP in GE2011?
Are you retarded or what?
 
Yes, I think I remember LTK said that (WP respect the right of all parties to contest any constituencies. ..)

If that is how the party boss feels, why are all WP supporters keep asking other opposition to withdraw....


hahaha. I am pretty sure that there will be multi-cornered fights in virtually all constituencies at next GE.
I am sure no boss of any party will have problems with that.
 
No, I am saying that 60% don't support WP anyway.

And now even some of the 40% is going to get pissed off and stop supporting WP.

You have a comprehension problem. No wonder you don't understand KJ, only understand Ah Lians.

You are saying that the people telling RP to step aside are the 60% that voted for PAP in GE2011?
Are you retarded or what?
 
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