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SDP - r they for democracy, human rights or both?

leetahbar

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the real answer: NEITHER.

SDP is used to exploit a personal vendetta dating back to the lst day of sacking. democracy is just a cover-up. human rights is an instrument conveniently exploited to stir up public resentment and displeasure against the gov. they were hoping for massive public outcry, more protests and even leading hopefully to a national riot. fortunately, their sinister scheme always backfired.

hence, it's neither human rights nor democracy. it's more of a personal quest for the ultimate vengeance. that's why it will always fail miserably.

peasants can see the clearer picture in every of their public outbursts. it has become a such a regular entertainment that many wouldn't even give a damn!
 

guavatree

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hence, it's neither human rights nor democracy. it's more of a personal quest for the ultimate vengeance. that's why it will always fail miserably.

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee, temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!

faggotdogsimkhenghwee.png


why are you so jealous of SDP?

other than diabetes and kaput kidneys, you possess a damaged brain

the result of your prolonged PAP lanjiao sucking!
 

leetahbar

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17 January 2009
Mr Wong says current laws are not adequate in dealing with civil disobedience. -- ST PHOTO: STEPHANIE YEOW

THE Government is reviewing existing public order laws, and may craft new legislation to deal with civil disobedience acts such as illegal protests.

In the works could be a new law to give the police pre-emptive powers, for instance, to act earlier to prevent people from congregating in certain places, such as Parliament House and the Istana.

DRAWING THE LINE

'You say you are peaceful, but we have seen all kinds of such acts of civil disobediences turned nasty. And now we have people who learnt from people overseas, and are getting them here to teach classes on tactics to maximise media attention. You can see some of these tactics in overseas marches and protests - such as chaining themselves to traffic lights or lamp-posts, and sit-ins to cause a traffic gridlock. These are not what we will allow.'
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The review is in tandem with a possible liberalisation of regulations affecting public gatherings, especially social and recreational ones.

Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng, who is also Home Affairs Minister, revealed these moves in an interview with The Straits Times this week.

The legislative changes will be tabled in Parliament 'in the next few months', and passed in time for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit here in November.

The mega conference which Singapore is hosting is likely to attract protesters, both local and foreign, as happened during the World Bank-International Monetary Fund conference here in September 2006 and the Asean summit in November 2007.

Currently, activities such as protests and public speeches are regulated under the Public Entertainments and Meetings Act (Pema) and the Miscellaneous Offences (Public Order and Nuisance) Act (MOA) - alongside other public activities ranging from arts performances to beauty pageants.

This should not be the case, said Mr Wong. 'In managing public-order risks, we should not have a one-size-fits-all approach,' he said.

'We should not continue to have politics treated as entertainment. We should distinguish between social or recreational activities, and cause-related or ideologically-related activities.'

The distinction would allow Pema and MOA to be liberalised so that there can be greater self-regulation when it comes to social and recreational public gatherings, he said.

'For cause-related or ideologically-related activities, including those pertaining to race and religion, we should address them squarely as higher-risk.

'For this category, we must empower the police to deal with public-order problems more effectively, especially when mega-events are held.'

Current laws, which date back many decades and have evolved in 'piecemeal fashion', are 'not adequate' when dealing with those who engage in civil disobedience, he said.

Citing instances of civil disobedience such as those by Falungong followers, Myanmar dissidents and some opposition activists, he said:

'They make a show of breaking the law; the police watch and do nothing and can only follow up with investigation after the show is over when they pack up and leave,' he said. 'This cannot go on.'

Giving a sneak preview of what could be in the new law, he said his ministry had studied laws introduced in Australia in recent years.

These included powers given to the police to prevent protesters from gathering at designated spots and to compel them to 'move on'.

In Singapore, Parliament House, the Istana and the Supreme Court could be among the designated areas, with others added according to 'situational' circumstances.

At the same time, Mr Wong acknowledged the need to 'calibrate' the police's powers, and 'ensure access by those aggrieved to seek redress' from the minister or the Attorney-General's Chambers'.

The proposed new law comes after a series of acts of civil disobedience here.

Members of the Singapore Democratic Party have been charged with participating in illegal assemblies and speaking in public without a permit.


A group of Myanmar nationals also took part in a protest march against their country's junta during the Asean summit here in 2007.

Asked if the change marked a tightening up, Mr Wong said: 'For a group which wants to pursue civil disobedience, this would indeed be a tightening of the laws. But for such people, no matter what we do, it is never enough, short of letting them break laws at will and stage marches where and when they please.'
For those who wish to demonstrate, he noted the Government had liberalised laws concerning the use of Speakers' Corner. Outdoor demonstrations have been allowed there since last September.

There would be people who will perceive the review as politically motivated, the minister acknowledged.

'But for those who look deeper into the issue, I don't think they will really think we're out there to suppress political dissent. You can't - not in today's context anyway. On the Internet, you can find all kinds of political dissent. Have we suppressed them? No.'

Ultimately, the Government will 'evolve and adjust the public space for activism in tandem with how we evolve as a society', he said.

'But we must also remind those who want greater freedom that they must bear greater accountability for their actions. If they want to change things, they must work within the law, in which all have equal access and protection, regardless of the loudness of their voice or the size of their numbers and their threat to wreak disorder.'
 

guavatree

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old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee, temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!

Engaged in illicit gay activities is a crime!

Stealing temple donations is a crime!

Bashing your father is a crime!

Conning property is a crime!
 

guavatree

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old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee, temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!


Gay illicit activities:

Penal Code Section 377A states, “Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years.”

Cheating:

Whoever, by deceiving any person, fraudulently or dishonestly induces the person so deceived to deliver any property to any person, or to consent that any person shall retain any property, or intentionally induces the person so deceived to do or omit to do anything which he or she would not do or omit if he or she were not so deceived, and which act or omission causes or is likely to cause damage or harm to that person in body, mind, reputation or property, is said to "cheat". For example, A cheats if he intentionally deceives Z into a belief that A means to repay any money that Z may lend to him when A does not intend to repay it, and thereby dishonestly induces Z to lend him money. Cheating is punished with imprisonment of up to one year, or a fine, or both.

Father bashing:

Voluntarily causing hurt – A person causes hurt when he or she causes bodily pain, disease or infirmity to any person. Whoever does any act with the intention of causing hurt to any person, or with the knowledge that he is likely to cause hurt to any person, and does cause hurt to any person, voluntarily causes hurt. The penalty for voluntarily causing hurt is imprisonment of up to one year, or a fine of up to S$1,000, or both.

Theft of Temple Funds:

Theft is committed when a person, intending to take dishonestly any movable property out of the possession of any person without that person’s consent, moves that property in order to effect the taking. The penalty for theft is imprisonment of up to three years, or a fine, or both. It is more common, however, for offenders to be charged with committing theft in a building, tent or vessel, which is used as a human dwelling, or for the custody of property. The penalty for this more serious offense is imprisonment of up to seven years, and also a fine.
 

char_jig_kar

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the real answer: NEITHER.

SDP is used to exploit a personal vendetta dating back to the lst day of sacking. democracy is just a cover-up. human rights is an instrument conveniently exploited to stir up public resentment and displeasure against the gov. they were hoping for massive public outcry, more protests and even leading hopefully to a national riot. fortunately, their sinister scheme always backfired.

hence, it's neither human rights nor democracy. it's more of a personal quest for the ultimate vengeance. that's why it will always fail miserably.

peasants can see the clearer picture in every of their public outbursts. it has become a such a regular entertainment that many wouldn't even give a damn!

any evidence or proof that its just a personal vendetta?
 

guavatree

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check with oldman. then again, check with chee. accuser and accused.

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee, temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!

you talk with PAP lanjiaos still in your mouth .... LOL
 
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Alu862

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Look how the SDP celebrates the burning of the PAP MP. If they are concerned with human rights, they should at least show some sympathy
 

leetahbar

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check with the oldman?? the oldman is a sell out. he worked with the Japanese Military Regime during WW2, remember??

if that's the case, then we should be like taiwanese which culture is more pro-japanese.

the "he worked with japanese military..." thing, please share more insight.:smile: prataman was reputated to be another one. however, very little was reported.

but when the preasants living in the present have seen the ludicrous antics of chee leading his sdppies. is there any change from his day one antic to his last?

it's so obvious about his personal vendetta than whatever he claimed to be for the "good of peasants". by the way, there isn't any good. it's all REAL BAD!:oIo:
 

leetahbar

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u made the claim u should back it up with evidence moron.

show us the exact article, comments, instead of telling us one website.

their sdp site is now flooded with all flattering 'wonderfully' good comments. when they criticise the paps, they are also at the same time behaving exactly like the paps and even worst. the flatteries come from their own multi-talented and multi-tasking clones!:eek:
 

guavatree

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by the way, there isn't any good. it's all REAL BAD!:

hypocrite old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee, temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, deceiver, all rolled into one!

wtf! you think you are good izzit?

other than diabetes and kaput kidneys, you possess a damaged brain

the result of your prolonged PAP lanjiao sucking!
 

char_jig_kar

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if that's the case, then we should be like taiwanese which culture is more pro-japanese.

the "he worked with japanese military..." thing, please share more insight.:smile: prataman was reputated to be another one. however, very little was reported.

but when the preasants living in the present have seen the ludicrous antics of chee leading his sdppies. is there any change from his day one antic to his last?

it's so obvious about his personal vendetta than whatever he claimed to be for the "good of peasants". by the way, there isn't any good. it's all REAL BAD!:oIo:
- don't u know? LKY go work for the jap and do translation work for them during the era of japanese occupation.

"Having taken Chinese and Japanese lessons since 1942, he was able to collaborate as a transcriber of Allied wire reports for the Japanese, as well as being the English-language editor on the Japanese Hodobu (報道部 — an information or propaganda department) from 1943 to 1944.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew#cite_note-5"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew

- again, please show us evidence chee has a personal vendetta against the Lee.
 

char_jig_kar

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their sdp site is now flooded with all flattering 'wonderfully' good comments. when they criticise the paps, they are also at the same time behaving exactly like the paps and even worst. the flatteries come from their own multi-talented and multi-tasking clones!:eek:

just show me which SDP member openly support the action of ong kar char burning the PAP MP.
 
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