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SAF adds a new rank: Senior Lt-Col

makapaaa

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This goes to show how bloated the AssAF is!

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->THE Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will introduce a new rank for commissioned officers next year, the first time it has done so in its 43-year history.
The new Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank will designate those who have been tapped for higher appointments in the army, navy and air force.
The insignia for the new rank will be two SAF crests and a braid.
Lieutenant-Colonels, who wear two SAF crests, will have to attain the new rank before they can be promoted to Colonel.
Images of the new rank insignia were first shown in SAF recruitment advertisements which appeared in print and other advertisements last Thursday.
Eagle-eyed readers who spotted the insignia and were puzzled by it then wrote to The Straits Times to find out more.
There has also been much online chatter about how the new rank will alter the career tracks of SAF officers.
Responding to queries from The Straits Times, the Defence Ministry confirmed that the new rank will be rolled out next July.
The new rank is among sweeping changes to the SAF's employment schemes for regulars, including a key one that will raise the retirement age for officers to 50, unveiled in May to make serving in the military a more attractive and rewarding career option.
Military analysts were surprised by the move to introduce a new rank within the current nine-rank structure of the officer corps - one that was initially modelled on that of the British military.
Few militaries in the world have a variant of the Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank. Among them are the armed forces of China, Vietnam and North Korea.
Dr Tim Huxley, executive director of the Singapore-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, said the move baffled him.
'The rank structure is already complicated enough, said Dr Huxley, who has written a book on the SAF, entitled Defending The Lion City: The Armed Forces Of Singapore.
'I just don't see how injecting an additional rank helps.'
Several officers contacted by The Straits Times said they had been briefed on the details of the new rank at the beginning of the year, along with other changes to an officer's career track.
There are about 4,000 commissioned officers serving in the SAF now.
An army lieutenant-colonel who did not want to be named said the newly created rank would give some officers who choose not to assume higher command appointments the opportunity to specialise as chief trainers.
He said: 'At the same time, they can still be rewarded for the more complex roles that come with their job.'


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Papsmearer

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More money for the useless scholar officers feeding at the public trough. There is absolutely no need for this new rank. Within the Lt Col rank, there are already various pay grades. A new Lt Col should not be earning the same as an Lt Col who has been holding that rank for 5 years. Under the current system, EVERYONE already knows who is the senior amongs the Lt Col, and who is the next in line for promo. The higher paid Lt Col is obviously the senior one.
 

pia

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Yah.. and this will be followed by the intro of new rank Lt-Col Mentor.

This will be intro to all ranks in the future to make sure po-lumpars are well fed :mad:
 

SotongMee

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Hahaha, pia, good one! :biggrin: :oIo: points lah!

New rank 2 craps and 1 "braid" , it will be tough for enemy snipers to spot the difference with 1 bullet with senior and LTC stands side-by-side..

Yah.. and this will be followed by the intro of new rank Lt-Col Mentor.

This will be intro to all ranks in the future to make sure po-lumpars are well fed :mad:
 

Leckmichamarsch

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More money for the useless scholar officers feeding at the public trough. There is absolutely no need for this new rank. Within the Lt Col rank, there are already various pay grades. A new Lt Col should not be earning the same as an Lt Col who has been holding that rank for 5 years. Under the current system, EVERYONE already knows who is the senior amongs the Lt Col, and who is the next in line for promo. The higher paid Lt Col is obviously the senior one.

We pay gorillas coconuts to do stupid monkey business!! The first cuntry in this world to have such friggin rank! Our armed forces so big meh?
Next will be senior general like pariah Myanmar!!!!!!!!!1
 

jonlatio

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Ya, the braid looks like a bullet head got stuck there on the lapel... His chance for becoming a Fool Colonel kena shot! :biggrin:

Condemned!
 

kingrant

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This goes to show how bloated the AssAF is!

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->THE Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) will introduce a new rank for commissioned officers next year, the first time it has done so in its 43-year history.
The new Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank will designate those who have been tapped for higher appointments in the army, navy and air force.
The insignia for the new rank will be two SAF crests and a braid.
Lieutenant-Colonels, who wear two SAF crests, will have to attain the new rank before they can be promoted to Colonel.
Images of the new rank insignia were first shown in SAF recruitment advertisements which appeared in print and other advertisements last Thursday.
Eagle-eyed readers who spotted the insignia and were puzzled by it then wrote to The Straits Times to find out more.
There has also been much online chatter about how the new rank will alter the career tracks of SAF officers.
Responding to queries from The Straits Times, the Defence Ministry confirmed that the new rank will be rolled out next July.
The new rank is among sweeping changes to the SAF's employment schemes for regulars, including a key one that will raise the retirement age for officers to 50, unveiled in May to make serving in the military a more attractive and rewarding career option.
Military analysts were surprised by the move to introduce a new rank within the current nine-rank structure of the officer corps - one that was initially modelled on that of the British military.
Few militaries in the world have a variant of the Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank. Among them are the armed forces of China, Vietnam and North Korea.
Dr Tim Huxley, executive director of the Singapore-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, said the move baffled him.
'The rank structure is already complicated enough, said Dr Huxley, who has written a book on the SAF, entitled Defending The Lion City: The Armed Forces Of Singapore.
'I just don't see how injecting an additional rank helps.'
Several officers contacted by The Straits Times said they had been briefed on the details of the new rank at the beginning of the year, along with other changes to an officer's career track.
There are about 4,000 commissioned officers serving in the SAF now.
An army lieutenant-colonel who did not want to be named said the newly created rank would give some officers who choose not to assume higher command appointments the opportunity to specialise as chief trainers.
He said: 'At the same time, they can still be rewarded for the more complex roles that come with their job.'


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Too many SAF scholars parachuting in as Colonels so that they have to stop other non-scholars from filling up that rank too fast??? So serve as speed bump for non-scholars and they have to hentak kaki to let these white horses pass!
 

Kuailan

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Yah.. and this will be followed by the intro of new rank Lt-Col Mentor.

This will be intro to all ranks in the future to make sure po-lumpars are well fed :mad:

Should be :Mentor Lt. Col.
next one will : Mentor Mentor Lt.Col.
 

wikiphile

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LTC is already a super grade, think they just want to cap the COL and BG ranks in anticipation of the bigger pool of supergrade officers now that the retirement age is stretched for them. So is a senior LTC a COL? just like a Brigadier is a senior COL?
 

takcheksian

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Too many SAF scholars parachuting in as Colonels so that they have to stop other non-scholars from filling up that rank too fast??? So serve as speed bump for non-scholars and they have to hentak kaki to let these white horses pass!

He said: 'At the same time, they can still be rewarded for the more complex roles that come with their job.'


This says it all.

This 700sqkm of peesai; it doesn't even send peacekeeping forces abroad. More Complex Roles?

How complex? Por lampar using your tongue to lick both balls and shoes at the same time?
 

High Command

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ST cannot take in any more retired military fat cats so they came up with such a rank to keep these fat cats employed by the military. :biggrin:
 

Ramseth

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The old Chinese military ranks (c. 1911-49) are simple and interesting:

工兵 - Private
排长 - Corporal
连长 - Sergeant
团长 - Captain
师长 - Major
旅长 - Colonel
军长 - Brigadier
将军 - General
司令 - Marshal

These are just approximated equavilents. Though the ranks seem few for such a huge army (easily into the millions during the height of WW2 and ROC/PRC civil war), each of the lower ranks could be split into 1st class, 2nd class etc. and each of the high ranks could be supplemented by deputies, assistants etc.
 

Blazars

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Too many SAF scholars parachuting in as Colonels so that they have to stop other non-scholars from filling up that rank too fast??? So serve as speed bump for non-scholars and they have to hentak kaki to let these white horses pass!

Just like when they intro the 3rd sargent to master sargent. Master sargent is suppose to henta kaki so they wont go to WO. KNN... Even WO got 4 levels.
!&!!
 

SotongMee

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You got the ranks from a chess army chess game?
I was told it was something like this.

工兵 - Soldier (Other ranks) this 工兵 also combat engineer
排长 - Platoon Commander (the PC) LTA
连长 - Company Commander (the OC) Captain
团长 - Battlion Commander (the CO) - Major
师长 - Divisional Commander - LTC
旅长 - Colonel - COL
军长 - Brigadier -BG
将军 - General - General
司令 - Marshal - Chief of Staff Top Army man


The old Chinese military ranks (c. 1911-49) are simple and interesting:

工兵 - Private
排长 - Corporal
连长 - Sergeant
团长 - Captain
师长 - Major
旅长 - Colonel
军长 - Brigadier
将军 - General
司令 - Marshal

These are just approximated equavilents. Though the ranks seem few for such a huge army (easily into the millions during the height of WW2 and ROC/PRC civil war), each of the lower ranks could be split into 1st class, 2nd class etc. and each of the high ranks could be supplemented by deputies, assistants etc.
 

uncleyap

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Same problems as ROC military = too few soldiers + too many BGs.

So the famiLEE LEEgime need a new rank to promote these servants and minions. Because they have to promote them for moral and then use tax payers money to bribe them LEEgally, otherwise they will have very serious loyalty problems, and LEEgime can never function.

Did they solve their basic problems with this new rank? Nope. A new dog tag will not solve the problem.

人寡;兵少;将多;薪高

High Ranks, Low Guts. Any balls?:rolleyes::rolleyes::wink:
 
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sadfcuk

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... Few militaries in the world have a variant of the Senior Lieutenant-Colonel rank. Among them are the armed forces of China, Vietnam and North Korea...

Nobody saw this?

When did we become a communist nation? Oh... wait... that makes perfect sense now.
 

blackmore

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Why need another rank to play war game?

The whole friggin SAF is about rank and power; they use it to play more than just war games.

They use it for Ball games; carrying balls at each echelon .
They use it to subjugate lesser mortals in the rank structure.

Its a big show for them in general; SAF thrives on glamour and lack substance.
 
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