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nayr69sg

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Those are not muslims and their deaths are futile and they go straight to hell. It is clearly mentioned in the Quran that suicide leads to hellfire directly.

You may be confused however by this statement. There are 2 elements that determines suicide. No 1 is the intent to die. No2 is the actual act carried out.

Thus you will find the vast majority of muslims not ever entertaining suicide. Again, talk to a Muslim and find out for yourself.

No thank you.
 

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Those are not muslims and their deaths are futile and they go straight to hell. It is clearly mentioned in the Quran that suicide leads to hellfire directly.

You may be confused however by this statement. There are 2 elements that determines suicide. No 1 is the intent to die. No2 is the actual act carried out.

Thus you will find the vast majority of muslims not ever entertaining suicide. Again, talk to a Muslim and find out for yourself.
I once knew of a heavily pregnant hijabi that wanted to jump down from the 8th floor of a toa payoh hdb flat abt 20yrs ago. Seeing how the baby has now grown up to be a nasty young man, I should not have stopped her from jumping down. :sneaky:
 
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nayr69sg

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Have you ever wondered why Muslims never or rarely commit suicide?
Get to know a Muslim or ask one.
Just a hint: when you are at peace, nothing fazes you.
https://www.amaliah.com/post/31014/just-suicide-haraam-forbidden-doesnt-mean-pretend-not-happen


Just Because Suicide Is Haraam (Forbidden), It Doesn’t Mean We Should Pretend That It Does Not Happen
BY INSPIRITED MINDS IN SOUL ON 8TH JUNE, 2018
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TRIGGER WARNING This article or section, or pages it links to, contains information about suicide which may be triggering.
You can get help from Inspirited Minds here.
As humans, we tend to put things into boxes; things we open, hesitate to open or leave unopened. These boxes often contain old photos, old school books, memories, nightmares, and, very often, serious unspoken matters. Isn’t it time we broached those “taboo” topics?
Suicide is left locked behind doors for many Muslims, but this won’t help in breaking down the barriers with those suffering or unlocking an understanding that suicide is a problem, for both Muslims and non-Muslims.
In the media, Islam and suicide have unfortunately been linked and sensationalised. We are led to believe that whilst Islam strongly condemns suicide, Muslims have somehow become promoters of it. Yet worryingly, their mental health is hardly considered or emphasised during reporting; it is often months later that we come to know the person was or is unstable.
We instantly start defending Islam and highlighting that their actions fundamentally go against our religion, but we don’t start defending their mental health; why?
There are many cases wherein “Muslim murderers” have ended up committing suicide themselves after taking the life of another (usually their loved ones, typically their spouse, children or parents). These murder-suicide cases highlight that those who usually get left behind after a suicide, are also taken by the individual. Is this done so their loved ones don’t suffer? Is it because they can’t bear to be alone any longer? Is it because they believe they will be better off dead?
Just because suicide is haraam (forbidden), it doesn’t mean we should pretend that it does not happen.
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This gets us nowhere. Therefore, we should be aware of the thought processes and behaviour leading towards the action, just like with any other haraam committed. This is so that we can get a better understanding of this issue and possibly take preemptive steps.
Research by the NHS has found that nearly all completed suicides are among individuals with a mental illness. According to the World Health Organisation (WHO), suicide is the second leading cause of death among 15-29 year-olds, and rates are high amongst vulnerable groups who experience discrimination.
Risk factors for suicide include mental disorders (such as depression, personality disorders, substance abuse, schizophrenia) as well as physical illnesses, e.g. individuals with chronic pain or terminal diagnoses. Furthermore, WHO has found that six out of the 20 countries with the highest suicide rates are in Europe.
It is likely that someone who is thinking about suicide will usually give signs to those around them that they are troubled. This can be shown through:
  • Physical changes e.g. major changes to personal hygiene or appearance, weight, eating habits, sleeping pattern and energy.
  • Behavioural indicators, such as self-harming or prior suicidal attempts, withdrawal from family and friends, quitting activities previously important, uncharacteristic recklessness and writing goodbye notes or letters.
  • Feelings can also be conveyed in conversational clues highlighting the sufferer’s distress, isolation and helplessness with no sense of the future. “What’s the point? Things are never going to get any better…“It’s all my fault”… “I’m on my own … no-one cares about me”…. “Nothing I do makes a bit of difference, it’s beyond my control”
Remember Allah is Most-Forgiving and it has been mentioned in the Qur’an that,
Say: “O ‘Ibadi (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (Qur’an 39:53)
He is Al-Ghafoor (the One who forgives and covers sins regardless of how large the sins are) and Al-Ghaffar (the One who continues to forgive regardless of how many times you sin). The root of Al-Ghafoor and Al-Ghaffar is the verb ghaffara (غفر) which does not mean “to forgive”; rather, it means to shield, protect and cover, like a helmet, which in Arabic is called a “mighfaar”. So call upon Him, don’t despair of His Mercy or Forgiveness whilst suffering, and make du’a for those who committed the act or with suicidal tendencies and attempts.
For those of you feeling suicidal, remember this gem, and remember that we are here for you.
Allahumma ahyinee maa kaanat-il-hayaatu khayran lee wa tawaffanee maa kaanat-il-wafaatu khayran lee
O Allah keep me alive as long as life is good for me and take me away when death is better for me
We should keep an open mind in educating ourselves with mental illnesses, such as suicide. Every suicide is a heartbreak, affecting families and communities with long-lasting effects on the people left behind. Have you ever stopped to wonder how this individual has reached this point? Why would death feel like the best and only option? How could this be changed?


Inspirited Minds

Inspirited Minds
Inspirited Minds is a grassroots charity which aims to reduce stigma, raise awareness and provide advice, support and encouragement to those, in particular, Muslims, affected by mental health problems from a faith and culturally sensitive perspective. Inspirited Minds often run online campaigns, deliver workshops up and down the UK, volunteer their services for crises’, and discuss topical issues in their blog and weekly newsletter.
 

Loofydralb

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I once knew of a heavily pregnant hijabi that wanted to jump down from the 8th floor of a toa payoh hdb flat abt 20yrs ago. Seeing how the baby has now grown up to be a nasty young man, I should not have stopped her from jumping down. :sneaky:
Are you sure he will be a nasty person forever? Don't judge the book before you reach the end of its cover. That is a basic tenet in the mercy of Allah. He may turn good and repent. You are not the determinant.
Makes sense right?
 

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Are you sure he will be a nasty person forever? Don't judge the book before you reach the end of its cover. That is a basic tenet in the mercy of Allah. He may turn good and repent. You are not the determinant.
Makes sense right?

He may also become radicalized and work for Islamic Terrorist Organization and kill many people. We are certainly not the determinant.
Makes total sense.
 

Balls2U

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Where exactly did she land? I want to know so that I can avoid stepping on that same spot next time I'm there.
 

Loofydralb

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He may also become radicalized and work for Islamic Terrorist Organization and kill many people. We are certainly not the determinant.
Makes total sense.
Over the ages, it has been the Christians that have bee doing almost all of the killing and genocide.
 

cocobobo

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I have not found rhe courage to kill myself. It is constantly on my mind and it is clear to me there is no hope for me anymore.

I hope i will get cancer or heart attack and die of natural causes.

I have narrowed down two ways to commit suicide. One is hanging myself at home. But i think it will be too traumatic for my wife and children.

The 2nd is to jump from rhe bridge. I went to recce just now. Found the nearest car park where i can leave the car and then climb up the slope to the road and then the bridge. There is still a lot of construction going on now so it is likely someone will try to stop me as well. So timing not quite right yet.

I am so tired of living i dont have any motivation to do anything. It is pointless. Everything breaks down gets messy new problems new damage

I find sleeping like dying. Problem is cannot sleep forever. Will wake up. But sleeping is the closest to being dead.
You are not dead yet despite your wishes. That means the universe wants you to go on. There is a reason for that. Just keep going, do good things, help lesser humans, until your time is up. At least you check out feeling good.
 

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I read a few of the samsters here are contemplating suicides or early deaths. Why? Life is so short. Take any brickbats thrown at you as challengers. Live for another day. I do that to myself and tell myself never to give up come what may. On your last day, you'll be glad to recall for yourself that you didn't lived a wasted life.
 

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If you can drink, eat and a roof above your head. You are 99% then the people sleeping on the streets. Give. Share. Go visit a Chinese temple either at near the traffic police hq at bishan or the national skin Centre at novena. Lots of old people need food. Even the one at geylang has a temple that is offering free food. Just be a volunteer.
 

glnit

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run
don't die
just run
make sure your family is well taken care of
and run
just run and reinvent yourself
do what you've not done before
live the life you've been dreaming of
and run just run
for you may be dead to your loved ones
we are still being loved forever more
so run just run
do what needs to be done
and run just run
change what needs to be changed
and run just run
for we will see you
in another light
in another world
in another time and another place
so run just run
 

nayr69sg

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run
don't die
just run
make sure your family is well taken care of
and run
just run and reinvent yourself
do what you've not done before
live the life you've been dreaming of
and run just run
for you may be dead to your loved ones
we are still being loved forever more
so run just run
do what needs to be done
and run just run
change what needs to be changed
and run just run
for we will see you
in another light
in another world
in another time and another place
so run just run

Two little dickie birds sitting on a wall
One named Peter, one named Paul.
Fly away Peter! Fly away Paul!
Come back Peter! Come back Paul!
 

nayr69sg

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Take it easy doc. You are surely more fortunate than many of us here. Cheers.
No i am just the same.
If you want to be financially secure you have to serve the customer
You have to give up who you are. Bend over. Be vulnerable and be violated
 
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