Potong Pasir to join GRC?

[virus]

My belief is that they will shrink the GRCs. They have to think much further than the next GE. The PAPs stock is not likely to rise. Finding committed and talented candidates who can connect emotionally with the voters will be difficult ( see the YPAP video). The WP is drawing better candidates with greater ease. It is pretty obvious that intelligent people looking to a long term future in politics are not placing their bets on the PAP. It will be very funny if the PAP ends up as junior partner in a WP - PAP coalition one day.

more GRC, more MPs to cushion the losses and marginalize the votes in parliament. on knowledge there is not enough representative. prime losses in east will be a blow so not sure if they will relocate some of their ministers to other locations.

 

[STUCK_HERE]

Toa Payoh is loaded with old fucks who will vote pap. Goodbye to PP forever it becomes a GRC. That estate will certainly goto the dogs once its grc. Now already look like shit. No improvement since chiam.

I believe that Potong Pasir is in the heart of Toa Payoh, including part of Lorong 8,
and it looks like Potong Pasir and Toa Payoh-Bishan are vulnerable.

Wish the residents there, will vote strategically for the non-white.

 

[duluxe]

My belief is that they will shrink the GRCs. They have to think much further than the next GE. The PAPs stock is not likely to rise. Finding committed and talented candidates who can connect emotionally with the voters will be difficult ( see the YPAP video). The WP is drawing better candidates with greater ease. It is pretty obvious that intelligent people looking to a long term future in politics are not placing their bets on the PAP. It will be very funny if the PAP ends up as junior partner in a WP - PAP coalition one day.

You are spot on!

 

[duluxe]

I dun think SPP can win PP or if its is merged with BSTP GRC. The strategy is to disband SPP and merge with WP and contest under WP flag since the stock of WP is on the rise. Mr Chiam, for the sake of Singapore, please swallow your pride and do this. I am pretty sure BSTP GRC and PP can be won if Chiam were to take this road. Otherwise, I am afraid SPP may be blown to oblivion after the 2016 GE.

Opposition unity never existed!

 

[Qantas]

In terms of ideology SPP is the one closest to WP and CST understands the constraints as opposition MP.

The idea is to for SPP members to join WP on conditions that they contest under WP flag in TP-B GRC and PP but those SPP candidates might not fit into WP requirements. Doing so place additional burden on the resources of WP as they need to face their own battles and I don't think WP is keen to expand this fast. Internal discipline and unity will be an issues if the the party just focus on building up membership base without considering if those new intakes really adhere and agree with the party principles and policies.

I wholeheartedly agree with your arguments. However, we must look at the bigger picture for the sake of Singapore. PP (or a merged BSTP GRC) should be easier to win if contested by WP rather than SPP. The SPP leadership is weak. If Chiam is willing to sacrifice his party for the sake of the country, he will forever be a hero in the eyes of the people. SPP members need not be fielded as candidates if they do not pass muster with the WP leadeship. They will form a larger membership base for the WP and render assistance behind the scenes. As it is now, I cannot fathom how SPP can make any inroads even in winning back PP if they remain so low-key. Do you think they can win if Lina contest again in PP against Sitoh? I dare say unlikely.

 

[steffychun]

I wholeheartedly agree with your arguments. However, we must look at the bigger picture for the sake of Singapore. PP (or a merged BSTP GRC) should be easier to win if contested by WP rather than SPP. The SPP leadership is weak. If Chiam is willing to sacrifice his party for the sake of the country, he will forever be a hero in the eyes of the people. SPP members need not be fielded as candidates if they do not pass muster with the WP leadeship. They will form a larger membership base for the WP and render assistance behind the scenes. As it is now, I cannot fathom how SPP can make any inroads even in winning back PP if they remain so low-key. Do you think they can win if Lina contest again in PP against Sitoh? I dare say unlikely.

Lina may have her own plans.

 

[Qantas]

Opposition unity never existed!

Thats because everyone has his own ego and wants to be Indian Chief without taking the big picture into consideartion. Chiam is passed his use-by-date and Lina is definitely not electable politically. For all the accusations of self-interest levelled against Dr Chee and the SDP (I am not SDP supporter anyway), I have to salute them for tricking the PAP into going ahead with the BE in Punggol East by announcing their intention to contest and then making way for the WP at the last minute. At least it shows that SDP does value some form of opposition unity, though not the purest type of unity, if you know what I mean.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Do you think they can win if Lina contest again in PP against Sitoh? I dare say unlikely.

Auntie Lina will give Sitoh another close fight. That's all. Win? Unlikely.

Something's not right. CST is not able to attract talent to his party.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Thats because everyone has his own ego and wants to be Indian Chief without taking the big picture into consideartion. Chiam is passed his use-by-date and Lina is definitely not electable politically. For all the accusations of self-interest levelled against Dr Chee and the SDP (I am not SDP supporter anyway), I have to salute them for tricking the PAP into going ahead with the BE in Punggol East by announcing their intention to contest and then making way for the WP at the last minute. At least it shows that SDP does value some form of opposition unity, though not the purest type of unity, if you know what I mean.

No one tricks the PAP during GE. Whatever moves and strategies, secret squirrels would have done their assignments.

 

[Qantas]

No one tricks the PAP during GE. Whatever moves and strategies, secret squirrels would have done their assignments.

Bro GD, I said BE not GE. Perhaps you are right regarding the "trick" thingy but in any BE, governing parties are more likely to be on the backfoot as compared to a GE (more so with the Michael Palmer scandal)since in a GE, the electorate may not be so willing to change the government as compared to a BE where the government cannot be defeated. Knowing PAP, they would rather not call for BE and administer the constituency using de-facto MP but I think in this instance they cannot not call for BE as they had made such a call for Hougang earlier.

 

[tanwahp]

Auntie Lina will give Sitoh another close fight. That's all. Win? Unlikely.

Something's not right. CST is not able to attract talent to his party.

A top leader needs to accept one thing. He has to move the party in a direction that he personally preferred to have taken another direction if not for the party members.

The Chiams can never accept this, that is why no one stays long.

 

[kukubird58]

PP being absorbed only surfaced recently. I think they know that any more seats lost would damage irreparably their future. They will do what they did in 1997 by extensive re-drawing of boundaries and increasing the size of GRCs.

hahaha....you are a real idiot who lives in your own well.....
papee has already concluded that smaller GRCs will be the way to go and had stated this publicly....
here u are talking about papee increasing the size of GRCs...
if you want to be anal-yst, u need to be well read and have a little cow sense.....
with national average of less than 60%, there is very little you can do redraw boundaries....
with more qualified opps candidates cumming up, super size GRCs are no longer daunting to opps while any loss will be hard for papee to take...

 

[Yingge]

Auntie Lina will give Sitoh another close fight. That's all. Win? Unlikely.

Something's not right. CST is not able to attract talent to his party.

CST attract CSJ, Jiang Cai zheng and Lim how dong... They are talents too...

 

[blindswordsman]

Prior to GE2011, GRC was pau chiak way of walkover into Parliament for pappies but after GE2011, this GRC method looks like a liability now to pappies too. In GE2016, walkover for pappies may no longer exists if all GRCs are contested. Will pappies dismantle GRC to cut loose this liability and create more SMC?