Potong Pasir to join GRC?

[zhihau]

I wonder whether Charles Chong will stay.

more interested to know if our higher mortal cleaning up Joo Chiat road or not...

 

[3_M]

I wonder whether Charles Chong will stay. Awfully quiet since GE. That guy is a liability who will drag down any GRC team. Then again PAP is facing such a dearth of talent I don't think it will field any good team.

If JC remains as SMC, likely Charles Chong will stay on to fight. Kiasu nature of PAP means the unlikelihood of sending a rookie or MP elsewhere to take on such strong challenge.

 

[winnipegjets]

Likely to step down imo.

You take over?

 

[steffychun]

You take over?

GoldenDragon for President!

 

[winnipegjets]

GoldenDragon for President!

Cannot lah ...he needs to be minister, PM, Minister Emeritus and then President.

 

[Satyr]

Gerrymandering is effective when more than half the seats were uncontested. The coming election we expect all seats to be contested thus limiting their room to drastically change the boundaries. This is especially so in the east as I expect WP to contest in close proximity to counter PAP gerrymandering tactic. I do expect WP to contest in PR-P GRC, TMP GRC (declared) in addition to where they contested during GE11. By the law of large number, bigger GRC size means the result in the GRC will be closer to the national average. It ideal in situation when PAP can garner above 60% nationwide but will be risky if the overall score is reduced perhaps to 55% and below. (I am sure they can run simulation on this) Maybe PAP might decide to limit lost by shrinking the size of GRC this time round.

My belief is that they will shrink the GRCs. They have to think much further than the next GE. The PAPs stock is not likely to rise. Finding committed and talented candidates who can connect emotionally with the voters will be difficult ( see the YPAP video). The WP is drawing better candidates with greater ease. It is pretty obvious that intelligent people looking to a long term future in politics are not placing their bets on the PAP. It will be very funny if the PAP ends up as junior partner in a WP - PAP coalition one day.

 

[palden]

Chiam is ok. Not wayang party. Live in their ward and you will understand. All hot air nothing else.

 

[tanwahtiu]

in 1955, we have an opposition say this:

“But we either believe in democracy or we not. If we do, then, we must say categorically, without qualification, that no restraint from the any democratic processes, other than by the ordinary law of the land, should be allowed… If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then, they should have the right of free association, of free speech, of free publication. Then, no law should permit those democratic processes to be set at nought.”

- Lee Kuan Yew as an opposition leader, April 27, 1955

In 2016+ We have a new opposition that will also say this

“But we either believe in democracy or we not. If we do, then, we must say categorically, without qualification, that no restraint from the any democratic processes, other than by the ordinary law of the land, should be allowed… If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then, they should have the right of free association, of free speech, of free publication. Then, no law should permit those democratic processes to be set at nought.”

- Lee Kuan Yew as an opposition leader, April 27, 2016+

We know that Joo Chiat will vanish. Now PP which had the slimmest of 200 odd votes are likely to go as well. The opinion of the PAP strategist is that a viable opposition candidate will take this constituency back.

Looks like East Coast will fall as WP will likely put their new A team. Marine Parade is an aberration due to Kate Spade and Miss NSP

This is the list of bottom performers where the PAP is concerned.

1) Potong Pasir 0.8%
2) Joo Chiat 2%
3) East Coast 9.6%
4) Marine Parade 13.2%
5) Punggol East SMC 13.5% (lost in by elections)
6) Bishan Toa Payoh GRC 13.8%

 

[tanwahtiu]

are they going to demolish PP estate and disperse the voters they did to Hill view Ave estate? Time will tel.

We know that Joo Chiat will vanish. Now PP which had the slimmest of 200 odd votes are likely to go as well. The opinion of the PAP strategist is that a viable opposition candidate will take this constituency back.

Looks like East Coast will fall as WP will likely put their new A team. Marine Parade is an aberration due to Kate Spade and Miss NSP

This is the list of bottom performers where the PAP is concerned.

1) Potong Pasir 0.8%
2) Joo Chiat 2%
3) East Coast 9.6%
4) Marine Parade 13.2%
5) Punggol East SMC 13.5% (lost in by elections)
6) Bishan Toa Payoh GRC 13.8%

 

[rotiprata]

Don't think anything will help the PAP next time. Absorbing PP in a GRC will make them look cowardly and risk losing more votes. And they will have a solid core of opposition supporters contaminating a GRC. IF PP is separate, even if they lose, it's just one seat.

I also think that this is the likely strategy they will take; the fire is getting too big...better to contain it and risk losing resources than putting it out completely

 

[kingrant]

Interesting thots from TFBH. Unsafe GRCS redrawn and recarved into SMCs and new GRCs comprising safer voters. GRCs becoming an unsafe strategy and a risky bet now for them. They now hv to dig themselves out of their own shit hole.

 

[kingrant]

PP being absorbed only surfaced recently. I think they know that any more seats lost would damage irreparably their future. They will do what they did in 1997 by extensive re-drawing of boundaries and increasing the size of GRCs.

I am sure that they will also take into considerations the new immigrants and where they are distributed e.g. In the East Coast, full of South Asian enclaves and very loyal too.

 

[Qantas]

Wouldn't absorbing PP into a GRC hurt the PAP? People nowadays are more savvy and they can recognise gerrymeandering. Also, what's the support for Chiam like in PP? And which GRC is PP nearest to?

I dun think SPP can win PP or if its is merged with BSTP GRC. The strategy is to disband SPP and merge with WP and contest under WP flag since the stock of WP is on the rise. Mr Chiam, for the sake of Singapore, please swallow your pride and do this. I am pretty sure BSTP GRC and PP can be won if Chiam were to take this road. Otherwise, I am afraid SPP may be blown to oblivion after the 2016 GE.

 

[GoldenDragon]

You take over?

Hahaha. Thanks. But no thanks. Too many skeletons.

 

[po2wq]

Hahaha. Thanks. But no thanks. Too many skeletons.

wat skeletons u got? ...

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

wat skeletons u got? ...

One night some lizards entered GD's wardrobe and died there. Over time became skeletons. That's why he got skeletons in his closet.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

If JC remains as SMC, likely Charles Chong will stay on to fight. Kiasu nature of PAP means the unlikelihood of sending a rookie or MP elsewhere to take on such strong challenge.

Then loss of JC would be very likely in that scenario.

 

[zhihau]

If JC remains as SMC, likely Charles Chong will stay on to fight.

for a moment i thought the MIW don't really get to choose where they'd be posted to

 

[steffychun]

I dun think SPP can win PP or if its is merged with BSTP GRC. The strategy is to disband SPP and merge with WP and contest under WP flag since the stock of WP is on the rise. Mr Chiam, for the sake of Singapore, please swallow your pride and do this. I am pretty sure BSTP GRC and PP can be won if Chiam were to take this road. Otherwise, I am afraid SPP may be blown to oblivion after the 2016 GE.

That will dissuade some hard core WP supporters.

 

[3_M]

I dun think SPP can win PP or if its is merged with BSTP GRC. The strategy is to disband SPP and merge with WP and contest under WP flag since the stock of WP is on the rise. Mr Chiam, for the sake of Singapore, please swallow your pride and do this. I am pretty sure BSTP GRC and PP can be won if Chiam were to take this road. Otherwise, I am afraid SPP may be blown to oblivion after the 2016 GE.

In terms of ideology SPP is the one closest to WP and CST understands the constraints as opposition MP.

The idea is to for SPP members to join WP on conditions that they contest under WP flag in TP-B GRC and PP but those SPP candidates might not fit into WP requirements. Doing so place additional burden on the resources of WP as they need to face their own battles and I don't think WP is keen to expand this fast. Internal discipline and unity will be an issues if the the party just focus on building up membership base without considering if those new intakes really adhere and agree with the party principles and policies.