people who speak the most about FREEDOM...

[leetahbar]

are actually the same people who are trying to kill the real FREEDOM. don't u agree?

 

[Nomad]

are you talking about those lousy opposition who just anyhow blast ?

 

[Alu862]

They think democracy is the magical cure for everything. They don't know what democracy is.

 

[southwest]

people who speak the most about FREEDOM...
are actually the same people who are trying to kill the real FREEDOM.

Too cheem, freedom never existed since LKY came to power

 

[Ramseth]

Look at Thailand. The so-called People's Alliance for Democracy doesn't accept election results and doesn't believe in elections. They think that most voters are too stupid to be allowed to vote freely.

If Singaporeans, especially so-called opposition supporters, aren't careful or discerning enough, they may fall into the same self-trap in a different way. Accuse PAP voters of stupidity or cowardice. Why shouldn't clever and brave Singaporeans be allowed to think for themselves and vote for PAP if they decide to?

The Thai PAD supporters and protesters are now saying, democracy and elections are useless, the peasants are too stupid to vote intelligent. Hope that Singapote opposition supporters won't be saying that, especially not in the name of democracy.

 

[Alu862]

It's easy to knock people down. it's hard to have a good replacement. Post Soviet Russia and Post Saddam Iraq are key examples. Also, proper external aid is necessary.

 

[leetahbar]

Look at Thailand. The so-called People's Alliance for Democracy doesn't accept election results and doesn't believe in elections. They think that most voters are too stupid to be allowed to vote freely.

If Singaporeans, especially so-called opposition supporters, aren't careful or discerning enough, they may fall into the same self-trap in a different way. Accuse PAP voters of stupidity or cowardice. Why shouldn't clever and brave Singaporeans be allowed to think for themselves and vote for PAP if they decide to?

The Thai PAD supporters and protesters are now saying, democracy and elections are useless, the peasants are too stupid to vote intelligent. Hope that Singapote opposition supporters won't be saying that, especially not in the name of democracy.

thanks for this posting. SDP, F4 and their clones - are they NOT doing the same thing to those who dare disagree with them when they themselves point fingers at paps?

so what is FREEDOM?....i think it simply means FREEDOM only exists to those who think they rule.:(

 

[angie II]

want 2 fight? form a party, get into parliament n be be prepared to be sued bankrupt. :p sounds familiar?

 

[leetahbar]

want 2 fight? form a party, get into parliament n be be prepared to be sued bankrupt. :p sounds familiar?

cst n ltk were not sued for bankrupt. and for that, the dissidents have another collection of description for the 2 rare opps. so what are they really fighting against? the paps or the other opp parties beside their own unpopular SDP?

those who were sued bankrupt was sadly being agitated and fell into paps' verbal traps. if people like chee who doesn't learn from such episode, it could mean a couple of reasons. one of which is maybe "he's paid to do so" by foreign entity which may never reveal to peasants. when such scheme is made known, things would be different.

it's just a uncomfortable feeling. it could be real or unfounded....only chee knows and he's not telling.

 

[Alu862]

As i have said, CHEE HAS NO PLAN FOR SINGAPORE> HE"S JUST AFTER THE ESTABLISHMENT. LTK maybe, CSt maybe NSP RP--huh?

 

[one2unite]

Hope that Singapote opposition supporters won't be saying that, especially not in the name of democracy.

There's no democracy in Singapore where voters are not given the choice to exercise their right to elect MPs. The so-called elections, orchestrated by the fascist PAP are mounted to "fix" the opposition and "engineer" the results the way the despotic ruling clique wants.

Fascism doesn't depend on ballot to govern. That's why in Singapore close to half the electorate remain disenfranchised at every PAP-engineered GE. And that's also the reason why the 154th propaganda mouthpiece had to be staffed by "poor prostitutes and running dogs of the PAP" and supervised by a former deputy prime minister of the corrupt regime.

 

[Alu862]

There's no democracy in Singapore where voters are not given the choice to exercise their right to elect MPs. The so-called elections, orchestrated by the fascist PAP are mounted to "fix" the opposition and "engineer" the results the way the despotic ruling clique wants.

Fascism doesn't depend on ballot to govern. That's why in Singapore close to half the electorate remain disenfranchised at every PAP-engineered GE. And that's also the reason why the 154th propaganda mouthpiece had to be staffed by "poor prostitutes and running dogs of the PAP" and supervised by a former deputy prime minister of the corrupt regime.

The people have no seen any credible policy from the other side. Human rights is good, but there is still the need to fufil wants--utility max

 

[leetahbar]

There's no democracy in Singapore where voters are not given the choice to exercise their right to elect MPs. The so-called elections, orchestrated by the fascist PAP are mounted to "fix" the opposition and "engineer" the results the way the despotic ruling clique wants.

Fascism doesn't depend on ballot to govern. That's why in Singapore close to half the electorate remain disenfranchised at every PAP-engineered GE. And that's also the reason why the 154th propaganda mouthpiece had to be staffed by "poor prostitutes and running dogs of the PAP" and supervised by a former deputy prime minister of the corrupt regime.

that's the common and most convenient excuse used by SDP everytime they lose an erection...

 

[Alu862]

the usual barking from a PAP dog!

People who aren't pro oppo are not always pro PAP

 

[one2unite]

The people have no seen any credible policy from the other side. Human rights is good, but there is still the need to fufil wants--utility max

I've seen. You shouldn't speak for the 'people'.

The greedy, exploitative and dictatorial PAP is an agent for the rich, the MNCs and the neo-cons. LKY is a puppet, a lackey of US imperialism in this part of the world.

PAP's economy is 'humming' because of the unrestricted inflow of cheap labour from Third World countries at the expense of Singaporeans. The economy is 'thriving' for foreigners and the leeches of the Lee regime who are the proxies of foreign interests.

 

[Ramseth]

want 2 fight? form a party, get into parliament n be be prepared to be sued bankrupt. :p sounds familiar?

On the contrary, MPs can't be sued for what they say in Parliament. At the most, they get censured for breaching parliamentary etiquette.

 

[one2unite]

On the contrary, MPs can't be sued for what they say in Parliament. At the most, they get censured for breaching parliamentary etiquette.

Wrong. After JBJ got elected, the Lee regime changed the law. Parliamentary immunity can be removed and the 'errant' member sued.

 

[TimAdkin]

"Freedoms just a word meaning there's nothing left to Lose"
-Gary Glitter-

 

[kakowi]

....but our chains?

Freedom is a wonderful right of human beings.

But the suppression of freedom is intended to perpetuate the freedom of others - to retain their control of resources, wealth, status.

We see this in the caste system, in the dynasties of old.

Freedom is a good thing. Too often, the nature of 'freedom' is ill-defined. And the mechanics of freedom carries too many hidden agendas.

 

[one2unite]

that's the common and most convenient excuse used by SDP everytime they lose an erection...

Even JBJ says the so-called elections staged by the PAP are not free and fair.

Both LHL and his papa LKY admitted that they "fix" the opposition and "engineer" the election results!!