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tanwahtiu

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Say no more.... funding technologies needs lots of money for trails and errors projects and only with easy drug peddling from attack China with opium trade can made funding possible....

 

tun_dr_m

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F-16 initial batch already clocked 3X more number of flying hours than SU-27 lifespan and still clocking. SU-27 is discovered by PLA to be fragile in fuselage design and modified in structural design. Russians also enhanced their design in their SU-30 onwards.

https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2019-01-30/doc-ihqfskcp1827695.shtml

我军歼16机体寿命已达到6000小时以上 是苏27三倍

我军歼16机体寿命已达到6000小时以上 是苏27三倍



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我国从俄罗斯引进苏-27系列战机,是一件跨时代的大事。这些苏27系列以及随后国产化改进型型号,甚至影响了上世纪九十年代以来的亚洲政治格局。从1992年到1999年,我国从俄罗斯引进了三批78架苏27战机,其中有38架是苏-27SK单座战斗机,40架苏-27UBK双座战斗机。另外中国还进口了大约100架苏-30MKK,自行组装了大约70架歼-11A战斗机。随后中国自行研制了歼-11B战斗机,并且发展了歼-11BS双座型,歼-11D等型号。接下来,中国又推出了全新的歼-16多用途战斗机。

很多公众有疑问,中国为何发展了如此之多的以苏-27为基础的战斗机型号。中国有了歼-11战斗机,为什么还要发展歼-16,它们有何区别?简单的说是一个妈,两个爸。歼-11战机和歼-16战机的区别还是比较大的,歼-11系列战机属于一款空优任务为主的战机,主要执行空战任务。而歼-16战机则是注重增强对地对海攻击能力的一款重型战斗轰炸机,未来是可以接替“飞豹”战斗轰炸机的。
目前中国歼-11战机和歼-16战机两者的关系,就和当初俄罗斯的苏-27和苏-30战机的关系是高度类似的。而且歼-11战机就是直接借鉴苏-27SK研发生产的,歼-16则是借鉴苏-30MKK研发设计。

在综合作战性能对比上,歼-16战机是要明显强于歼-11A、歼-11B、以及歼-11BS战机这几款三代战机的。和目前正在研发的歼-11D同属于中国最先进的三代半战机。歼-16其实就是中国国产版的苏-30战机,主要改进内容就是采用了国产先进的航电设备,例如换装了国产有源相控阵雷达。此外,歼-16还更大规模的采用复合材料制造,并装备了推力更大的国产WS-10发动机。
原版的俄制苏-27战斗机,底子不够好,设计寿命只有2000多小时,太短了,中国组装的歼-11A战机的寿命也不高。而在新世纪研制生产歼-11B,寿命都有大幅度的提升,超过了4000小时。到了最新的歼-16战机,机体寿命已达到6000小时以上,已经跟西方标准相同。

歼-16主要就是作为一款重型攻击机而研发的,但也具备不俗的空战能力,如果是在空战武器挂载的模式下,其空战能力是不逊于歼-11的。歼-16在新国产航电系统的支持下,几乎可以使用全部现役机载武器设备。这一点是苏-30,歼-11A、歼-11B、以及歼-11BS战机等三代战机都不具备的。由于是重型双座机,歼-16还被改造成为电子战机,增加了电子作战吊舱和相关机载设备,极大的增强了电子作战能力。


至于如何区分歼-16和歼-11系列战机,也是个比较有趣的话题,首先要知道歼-16是双座机,明显不同于单座的歼-11A、歼-11B和歼-11D。不过,歼-11系列战机也有双座型的歼-11BS战机。更详细的区分方法就是歼-11BS战机有空速管,没有空中加油管,机载红外搜索系统设置在机头座舱中间位置。而歼-16取消了空速管,增加了空中加油管,机载红外搜索系统也移到了座舱右侧。另外,歼-16装备了有源相控阵雷达,采用的是灰色雷达罩,往往采用了低可视话涂装。(作者署名:科罗廖夫)


Our military 歼 16 body life has reached more than 6000 hours is three times that of Su 27
Our military 歼 16 body life has reached more than 6000 hours is three times that of Su 27
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The introduction of the Su-27 series fighters from Russia is a major event across the ages. These Su-27 series and subsequent localized improved models even affected the Asian political landscape since the 1990s. From 1992 to 1999, China introduced three batches of 78 Su-27 fighters from Russia, of which 38 were Su-27SK single-seat fighters and 40 Su-27UBK two-seat fighters. In addition, China has imported about 100 Su-30MKKs and assembled about 70 J-11A fighters. Subsequently, China independently developed the J-11B fighter, and developed the J-11BS two-seat type, the 歼-11D and other models. Next, China launched a new J-16 multi-role fighter.

Many people have questions about why China has developed so many Su-27-based fighter models. China has a J-11 fighter, why should we develop 歼-16, what is the difference between them? Simply said is a mother, two dads. The difference between the J-11 fighter and the J-16 fighter is still relatively large. The J-11 fighter is a fighter with air superiority and mainly performs air combat missions. The J-16 fighter is a heavy-duty fighter-bomber focused on enhancing the ability to attack the sea against the sea. In the future, it can replace the "Flying Leopard" fighter-bomber.

At present, the relationship between the Chinese J-11 fighters and the J-16 fighters is highly similar to the relationship between the Russian Su-27 and Su-30 fighters. Moreover, the J-11 fighter is directly developed and produced by Su-27SK, and the J-16 is based on the Su-30MKK R&D design.

In terms of comprehensive combat performance comparison, the J-16 fighters are obviously stronger than the three-generation fighters of the 歼-11A, 歼-11B, and 歼-11BS fighters. Together with the 歼-11D currently under development, it is the most advanced three-generation semi-war aircraft in China.歼-16 is actually a Chinese-made version of the Su-30 fighter. The main improvement is the use of domestically advanced advanced avionics equipment, such as the replacement of domestic active phased array radar. In addition, the J-16 is also made of composite materials on a larger scale and equipped with a larger thrust domestic WS-10 engine.

The original Russian-made Su-27 fighter, the foundation is not good enough, the design life is only more than 2,000 hours, too short, the life of the Chinese assembled J-11A fighter is not high. In the new century, the production and production of 歼-11B has greatly improved the life expectancy, exceeding 4,000 hours. With the latest J-16 fighters, the life of the aircraft has reached more than 6,000 hours, which is the same as the Western standards.

The 歼-16 is mainly developed as a heavy-duty attack aircraft, but it also has a good air combat capability. If it is mounted in an air combat weapon mode, its air combat capability is no worse than 歼-11. With the support of the new domestic avionics system, the 歼-16 can use almost all active airborne weapon equipment. This point is not available in the three generations of fighters such as the Su-30, 歼-11A, 歼-11B, and 歼-11BS fighters. Because it is a heavy-duty two-seater, the J-16 has also been transformed into an electronic warplane, adding electronic combat pods and related airborne equipment, greatly enhancing electronic warfare capabilities.

As for how to distinguish between the 歼-16 and 歼-11 series fighters, it is also an interesting topic. The first thing to know is that the 歼-16 is a two-seater, which is obviously different from the 歼-11A, 歼-11B and 歼-11D of a single seat. However, the J-11 series fighters also have two-seat 歼-11BS fighters. A more detailed method of differentiation is that the 歼-11BS fighter has an airspeed tube, there is no air refueling tube, and the onboard infrared search system is placed in the middle of the nose cockpit. The 歼-16 canceled the airspeed tube, added the air refueling tube, and the onboard infrared search system was also moved to the right side of the cockpit. In addition, the J-16 is equipped with an active phased array radar, which uses a gray radome, often with a low visual painting. (Author's signature: Korolev)
 

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Frozen Russian CB your cock can stand?




Russian girl, her name Natalia, says she like to swim in ice. She is living by the beach, but it is a Russian beach – in the winter very cold, but no matter what she swims. All year round, including winter among ice and falling snow.










She has also got some friends who are sharing her passion.


 

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The chinks have been using rockets unsuccessfully since 1232. What makes them think now would be different? They probably said the same thing in 1644 too, that they now had better rockets. But they still got their butts kicked by a bunch of bushwhackers with pigtails.

I think the rockets came later. They had cannonballs during mongol invasion.
The date reporting the first use of true rockets was in 1232. At this time, the Chinese and the Mongols were at war with each other. During the battle of Kai-Keng, the Chinese repelled the Mongol invaders by a barrage of "arrows of flying fire." These fire-arrows were a simple form of a solid-propellant rocket. A tube, capped at one end, contained gunpowder. The other end was left open and the tube was attached to a long stick. When the powder was ignited, the rapid burning of the powder produced fire, smoke, and gas that escaped out the open end and produced a thrust. The stick acted as a simple guidance system that kept the rocket headed in one general direction as it flew through the air. It is not clear how effective these arrows of flying fire were as weapons of destruction, but their psychological effects on the Mongols must have been formidable.

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/TRC/Rockets/history_of_rockets.html
 

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In Shaolin Temple actually the strongest fighter is the old humble monk whose daily job was a cleaner for Shaolin Temple! His Gongfu is actually #1!

Don't fucking pray pray!






https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2019-02-14/doc-ihrfqzka5738373.shtml

中国火箭军导弹旅组建"炊事班发射组" 比武夺亚军

中国火箭军导弹旅组建"炊事班发射组" 比武夺亚军



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据解放军报2月14日报道,寒冬子夜,记者辗转来到火箭军某导弹旅野外驻训场。深山腹地,一场跨昼夜对抗式火力突击演练,已持续30多个小时。
指挥方舱内,发射一营营长尹东双眉紧锁,目光紧盯不停闪动的屏幕。
几分钟前,该营发射梯队刚刚摆脱“敌”卫星侦察,向发射阵地疾速转进。此时,指挥平台传来预设阵地“遭敌精确打击”的信息。按照常规作战流程,临时变更阵地,很难在规定的时间节点完成火力打击任务。

担任连长时候的尹东(军衔为少校)背后导弹为东风21C导弹 图片来自西北工业大学网站
“抢占备份阵地,展开缩时操作!”紧迫时刻,尹东果断通过指挥平台向各号位发布命令,发射准备时间大大缩短,导弹最终按时“发射”。
“战场上最大的危险,不是来自对手,而是来自僵化的思维模式。”走下战位,尹东感慨地说。
去年6月,尹东由发射连长破格提拔为发射营长。权责战位的变化让他更加迫切地意识到,要想将营队锻造为具备多种能力和广泛作战适应性的“刀尖铁拳”,就必须以战斗力为“靶心”,毫不手软地破除官兵思想中的和平积弊。
上任伊始,尹东把“第一把火”烧到炊事班。他在全营宣布,要打造全旅首个“炊事班发射班组”。旅战备拉动考核,尹东为防止目标暴露,果断缩减营指挥所配属车辆。
冬季野营拉练,气温降至零下10摄氏度,尹东主动向旅里申请抬高训练门槛,要求官兵凭地形图和指北针在雪地中限时奔袭至目标地域。
不久,在旅里组织的对抗比武中,尹东以发射分队长身份率“炊事班发射班组”上阵,一举夺得亚军。官兵们惊喜地发现,该营炊事员已脱胎换骨,成为个顶个的发射号手。

不仅如此,尹东提出的作战编组方案,经上级论证通过后,在基地范围内得到推广;营队在旅里的群众性练兵比武活动中获得集体第一……
破弊立新,其路修远。经过新岗位历练,尹东对备战打仗有了更深的理解。即将再次赴京参加两会,他在议案中这样写道:“练兵备战的思维不能一成不变,只有突破头脑里固有的‘发射窗口’,才能打赢变幻莫测的未来战争。”
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■王卫东
“我们这代人,一定要敢于解决问题。”多次采访尹东,他说得最多的是“敢”字。从连长到营长,他做得最多的也是这个“敢”字:敢于冲破思想观念的束缚,敢于向不符合战斗力生成规律的现象说“不”……
改革强军的新时代,需要更多像尹东一样敢于打破一切不符合实战要求的思想桎梏、经验枷锁、虚假套路的新型指挥员。唯有像尹东一样,在破弊立新中积极探索备战打仗“最优解”,才能锻造克敌制胜的锋锐利刃。
(记者 王卫东 通讯员 孙丰皓)

The Chinese Rocket Army Missile Brigade formed the "Early Class Launch Team" to win the runner-up
The Chinese Rocket Army Missile Brigade formed the "Early Class Launch Team" to win the runner-up
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According to the report of the People's Liberation Army on February 14th, the reporter was transferred to the Rocket Army's missile brigade field training field. In the hinterland of the mountains, a cross-day and night confrontation fire assault drill has lasted for more than 30 hours.

In the commanding cabin, a battalion commander Yin Dong’s eyebrows was locked and his eyes fixed on the screen that kept flashing.

A few minutes ago, the battalion launching echelon had just shaken off the "enemy" satellite reconnaissance and rushed into the launching position. At this time, the command platform sent information about the pre-set position "precisely attacked by the enemy." According to the normal operational procedures, it is difficult to complete the fire strike mission at the specified time node by temporarily changing the position.

The Dongdong 21C missile behind the Yin Dong (the rank of major) as the company commander

"Seize the backup position and start the time-lapse operation!" At the pressing moment, Yin Dong decisively issued an order to the various positions through the command platform, the preparation time for the launch was greatly shortened, and the missile finally "launched" on time.

"The biggest danger on the battlefield is not from the opponent, but from the rigid mode of thinking." Down the battle, Yin Dong said with emotion.

In June last year, Yin Dong was promoted by the launching company commander to launch the battalion commander. The change in the position of power and responsibility made him more eager to realize that in order to forge the battalion into a "knife-tipped iron fist" with multiple abilities and extensive operational adaptability, it is necessary to use combat power as the "target" and not to softly Break the peace and defects in the thinking of officers and men.

At the beginning of his tenure, Yin Dong burned the "first fire" to the cooking class. He announced in the whole camp that he would build the first "fighting class for the accident class". In order to prevent the target from being exposed, Yin Dong decisively reduced the vehicles attached to the command post.

In the winter camping training, the temperature dropped to minus 10 degrees Celsius, Yin Dong took the initiative to apply for the training threshold to the brigade, requiring the officers and soldiers to attack the target area with the topographic map and the compass in the snow.

Soon, in the confrontation competition organized by the brigade, Yin Dong took the position of the launching detachment as the "fighting class launching team" and won the runner-up. The officers and men were pleasantly surprised to find that the clerk of the battalion had been reborn and became the top launcher.

Not only that, Yin Dong’s proposed warfare formation plan was promoted within the base area after passing the higher-level argumentation; the battalion team won the collective first in the mass training and training activities in the brigade...

Breaking the new ground, the road is repaired. After a new job experience, Yin Dong has a deeper understanding of preparations for war. I am going to Beijing again to attend the two sessions. He wrote in the motion: "The thinking of preparing for training can't be fixed. Only by breaking through the 'launch window' inherent in the mind can we win the unpredictable future war."

Interview notes

■Wang Weidong

"Our generation must be daring to solve the problem." Many interviews with Yin Dong, he said the most is the word "dare". From the company commander to the battalion commander, he also made the most "dare" word: dare to break through the shackles of ideas and ideas, and dare to say "no" to the phenomenon that does not conform to the law of combat force generation...

To reform a new era of strong military forces, we need more new commanders like Yin Dong who dare to break all thoughts, experience, and false routines that do not meet the requirements of actual combat. Only like Yin Dong, in the process of breaking up the new and actively exploring the "optimal solution" in preparation for war, it is possible to forge the sharp edge of the enemy.

(Reporter Wang Weidong correspondent Sun Fengqi)
 

Tony Tan

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Ah Tiong purposely flaunted their new Gunship Radar more advance and higher performance than Ang Moh's see 2nd Pic under the hood of Rotor Hub.

http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/l/slide_8_199_70395.html#p=1

细心呵护霹雳火!我陆航武直10新年检修整备待战

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2月12日,陆军第72集团军某陆航旅机务人员对武直10直升机进行全面检查,排除故障隐患,确保新年过后飞行训练顺利开展。(来源:军网英文)
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新浪军事深度:本次于2018年11月的珠海航展,让广大军迷朋友为之赞叹,也让外国观察分析人士看到了我国军事力量的突飞猛进。说到军用飞机翱翔于蓝天、引擎的轰鸣在耳畔回响、钢铁的天使在空中起舞,这种画面无疑是让广大军迷朋友感到最为震撼的。

细心呵护霹雳火!我陆航武直10新年检修整备待战

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歼-20刚刚神秘露面,伴随着歼-20首次出现的神秘四机编队,以及公开展示了内置导弹,军迷小伙伴的热情就被点燃。特别是珠海航展当天,换装了矢量航空发动机的歼-10B在蓝天做出落叶飘、眼镜蛇等超机动动作,没有一个场景不让人大声惊叹。我们在惊叹至于,已经深深的感受到了我国不断增强的军工科技和国防力量。



  • 除了歼-10B和歼-20这两个抢眼的明星外,我国的其他军用飞机的技术水平也在突飞猛进之中。例如,被众人期待的直-20和轰-20,据官方透露,这两种型号的研发进度已经取得了重大进展,但是具体情况尚未得到公开。



据最近播出的央视节目《军事报道》中显示,武直-10H日常训练的画面已经被公开。《军事报道》所展示的是,第79集团军某陆航旅,在青藏高原的特殊环境下,举行适应高寒、高强度、跨昼夜飞行训练的实时画面。

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从画面中可以看出,武直-10H的机身照比之前的型号有两处明显的不同,说明该型号已经得到了大幅改动。有分析专家认为,武直-10H很有可能完全达到了设计之初构想的所有指标。

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  • 公开的画面显示,演练项目包含空地协同、模拟对抗以及超低空突防机动等。也许大部分观众把注意力放在我国新锐的武直-10H在任务中,所做的所有机动性画面,并叹为观止。但更加仔细一点就能发现,武直-10H在和以往的子型号相比,出现了2处不同,这2处是非常重要的改进。第一处不同,是稍早期的型号武直-10在前驾驶舱外侧,外加了陶瓷装甲板,然而后驾驶舱却没有。



这种陶瓷装甲板具有密度小、硬度高的优势,对弹药破片以及动能弹的防御效果比较理想,在国际上已经被广泛运用,军用车辆、飞机、防弹衣都有涉及,甚至在警用、民用市场也能看到它的影子。从《军事报道》的画面中,我们可以非常清楚地看到,武直-10H在前后驾驶舱外侧,都装有陶瓷装甲板。



第二处不同在于,在武直-10上没有加装的MAWS系统——紫外线导弹逼近警告器,该装置用于探测来袭的地空导弹,是比红外警告器灵敏度更高、虚警率更低的传感器,可以大大价低飞机被导弹命中的可能。这种防御装置备安装在更新的武直-10H的机头以及尾梁处,从而使武直-10H的生存能力有了质的发展。





另外,武直-10H的秘密武器——“天燕”90型空空导弹。该型号导弹是我国自主研发的,专门为武装直升机提供对空攻击能力的导弹。“天燕”90射程远,战斗部装药大,是现在威力最大的直升机用空空导弹。理论上,装备该型号导弹的直升机,可以完成空中格斗、拦截和护航等任务,在直升机遭遇战中将占据主动。



  • 甚至可以对低空飞行的攻击机造成威胁,例如 A-10和Su-25。有消息指出,武直-10H的发动机还可以换装动力更强的涡轴-9H,届时其战斗力会再度增长。希望广大军迷小伙伴们早点看到这一天~(作者署名:愤怒的子弹)

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On February 12th, the Army 72nd Army of the Army of the 72nd Army conducted a comprehensive inspection of the Wuzhi 10 helicopter to eliminate the hidden dangers and ensure the smooth development of the flight training after the New Year. (Source: Military Network English)
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Sina Military Depth: This Zhuhai Air Show in November 2018 made the majority of military fans and friends admire it, and also let foreign observers and analysts see the rapid advancement of China's military power. When it comes to military aircraft flying in the blue sky, the roar of the engine echoing in the ears, and the angels of steel dancing in the air, this picture is undoubtedly the most shocking for the majority of military fans.


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The 歼-20 has just mysterious appearances, along with the mysterious four-machine formation that first appeared in the 歼-20, and the public display of the built-in missiles, the enthusiasm of the military enthusiasts was ignited. In particular, on the day of the Zhuhai Air Show, the 歼-10B, which was replaced with a vector aero engine, made super-motorized movements such as falling leaves and cobras in the blue sky. No scene was not surprising. We are amazed at the fact that we have deeply felt the ever-increasing military technology and national defense strength in our country.



In addition to the two eye-catching stars, the 歼-10B and the 歼-20, the technical level of other military aircraft in China is also leaps and bounds. For example, the direct -20 and H-20, which are expected by everyone, according to the official, the progress of research and development of these two models has made significant progress, but the specific situation has not been disclosed.





According to the recently broadcasted CCTV program "Military Report", the picture of Wuzhi-10H daily training has been made public. The "Military Report" shows that the 79th Army of the Army, in the special environment of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, held a real-time picture of the training for alpine, high-intensity and cross-day flight.


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As can be seen from the picture, the body of the Wuzhi-10H has two distinct differences compared to the previous model, indicating that the model has been significantly modified. Some analysts believe that Wuzhi-10H is likely to fully meet all the indicators conceived at the beginning of the design.


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The public screen shows that the drills include air-ground coordination, simulated confrontation, and ultra-low-altitude penetration maneuvers. Perhaps most of the audience is paying attention to the new Wuzhi-10H in our mission, and all the mobility pictures we have made are amazing. But more carefully, we can see that the Wuzhi-10H has two differences compared with the previous sub-models. These two are very important improvements. The first difference is that the earlier model, the Wuzhi-10, was on the outside of the front cockpit with a ceramic armor plate, but the rear cockpit did not.




This ceramic armored deck has the advantages of low density and high hardness. It has an ideal defense effect on ammunition fragmentation and kinetic energy bombs. It has been widely used in the world, and military vehicles, aircraft, and bulletproof vests are involved, even in police use. The civilian market can also see its shadow. From the picture of "Military Report", we can see very clearly that the Wuzhi-10H is equipped with a ceramic armor plate on the outside of the front and rear cockpits.



The second difference is that there is no MAWS system installed on Wuzhi-10 - the UV missile approaching warning device, which is used to detect incoming ground-to-air missiles, which is more sensitive and false alarm rate than infrared warning devices. The low sensor can greatly reduce the possibility of the aircraft being hit by a missile. This kind of defensive device is installed in the nose and tail beam of the updated Wuzhi-10H, which makes the viability of Wuzhi-10H develop qualitatively.






In addition, the secret weapon of Wuzhi-10H - "Tianyan" type 90 air-to-air missile. This type of missile is independently developed by China and is specially designed to provide missiles with missiles capable of attacking air. "Tianyan" 90 has a long range and the warhead has a large charge. It is the most powerful air-to-air missile for helicopters. In theory, helicopters equipped with this type of missile can accomplish tasks such as air fighting, interception and escort, and will take the initiative in the helicopter encounter.




It can even pose a threat to attack aircraft flying at low altitudes, such as the A-10 and Su-25. It is reported that the engine of the Wuzhi-10H can also be replaced with a more powerful turboshaft-9H, and its combat power will increase again. I hope that the majority of military fans will see this day earlier~ (Author's signature: angry bullet)
 

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矢量版枭龙照片疑曝光 双机展示落叶飘编队机动(图)

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作为中国航展的老朋友,巴基斯坦继续携中巴合研的“枭龙”战斗机参加珠海航展。在航展开幕式上,巴铁枭龙战机进行了精彩的单机飞行表演,展现出优异的机动性能。(图片来源:中国军网 Mr菠蘿先生)


安装矢量发动机的歼10B在珠海航展上进行的惊艳表演,让世界为之震惊。各国不得不对中国军工科技的真实能力进行重新的审视。而歼20总设计师杨伟在新闻发布会上也进一步指出:中国已经完全掌握了矢量发动机的系列化应用,将来任何一款战斗机只要有需要都可以进行矢量化改造。杨伟总设计师的这个表态让军迷们充满了期待,这意味着中国现有战斗机都将可能安装矢量发动机从而具备强大的矢量机动能力。尤其是中国的歼20隐身战斗机,如果配备矢量发动机将更是如虎添翼。
歼10矢量版
距珠海航展结束仅仅几个月,现在网络上又传出了枭龙战斗机已经安装矢量发动机的消息。从一张在网上流行的照片可以看出,两架枭龙战机正在进行编“落叶飘编队机动”。从各国目前已经公开的视频可以看出,这种近距离编队进行落叶飘机动的飞行还是第一次,因为这种操作具有相当大的风险性,搞不好就会发生撞机事故;而从两架枭龙战斗机下落的轨迹以及的姿态可以看出,整个飞行动作具有高度的统一性,这说明枭龙战斗机的矢量控制非常精准,更具有实战价值。
枭龙双机进行落叶飘机动
枭龙战斗机安装矢量发动机,首先非常有利于其本身的外销。目前世界现役的战斗机除了美军的F22,以及俄罗斯的苏30和苏35,采用矢量发动机的战斗机是非常的少。如果外销型枭龙战机采用矢量发动机,有利于改善其瞬间盘旋有力和转弯半径。即便是面对F16这样的高机动战斗机也会不落下风,和印度的苏30MKI对抗也能保有与之相当的超机动能力。
枭龙矢量版战斗机的出现,证明了杨伟总设计师“中国可以在任何一款战斗机上使用矢量技术”表态的严肃性。可以预见在不久的将来,歼10、歼16、歼20等战斗机都将会出现矢量版,从而让这个尖端技术白菜化,中国也可能会因此成为装备矢量战斗机最多的国家。但这又会带来一个问题:那就是对飞行员进行训练的问题。毕竟矢量发动机的操作对飞行员需要进行特殊的培训,即便是经验丰富的老飞行员也需要从头开始。如果直接飞行员操作昂贵的主力战斗机进行从基础开始训练,显然是不经济的。
歼20最终将使用矢量发动机
因此对中国航空部门来说,下一步最可能推出的可能就是矢量版教练机。就是在教练10“猎鹰”高级教练机的基础上,研发出升级版矢量教练机。中国航空兵部队的飞行员可以先在矢量版教练机上进行各种适应性训练,等到熟练掌握相应的超机动飞行技能之后,再操作矢量版战斗机进行训练。所以在中国大量部署矢量版战斗机之前,先行发展矢量版“猎鹰”教练机将是重中之重。(作者署名:洪超飞)
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Vector version of the dragon's photo suspect exposure Double machine show the fallen leaves floating team maneuver (Figure)


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As an old friend of China Air Show, Pakistan continues to participate in the Zhuhai Air Show with the "Zhenlong" fighter of China-Pakistan Joint Research Institute. On the opening ceremony of the flight, the Pakistani Railway Dragon Fighter performed a wonderful stand-alone flight show, demonstrating excellent maneuverability. (Source: China Army Network Mr. Mr. Pineapple)


The stunning performance of the 歼10B with vector engine installed at the Zhuhai Air Show shocked the world. Countries have to re-examine the true capabilities of China's military technology. The chief designer of the 歼20, Yang Wei, further pointed out at the press conference: China has completely mastered the serial application of the vector engine, and any fighter in the future can be vectorized if necessary. This statement by the chief designer of Yang Wei has filled the fans with expectations, which means that the existing fighters in China will be able to install vector engines and have powerful vector maneuverability. In particular, China's 歼20 stealth fighters will be even more powerful if equipped with a vector engine.
歼10 vector version 歼10 vector version

Just a few months after the end of the Zhuhai Air Show, there is now news on the network that the Dragon Engine has installed a vector engine. It can be seen from a popular photo on the Internet that two dragon warplanes are working on the "Foliage Runners Maneuver". It can be seen from the video that has been published in various countries that this kind of close-range formation is the first time for the flight of the deciduous maneuver, because this operation is quite risky, and if it is not good, a collision accident will occur; The trajectory and posture of the two Snapdragon fighters can be seen that the entire flight movement has a high degree of uniformity, which shows that the vector control of the Snapdragon fighter is very precise and more practical.
枭龙双机 performs the deciduous and floating 枭 双 双

The installation of the vector engine of the Snapdragon fighter is very beneficial to its own export. At present, the world's active fighters, in addition to the US F22, as well as the Russian Su-30 and Su 35, are very few fighters with vector engines. If the export-type Snapdragon fighter adopts a vector engine, it is beneficial to improve its instantaneous hovering force and turning radius. Even the high-mobility fighters like the F16 will not fall, and the Indian Su-30MKI can maintain the same super-maneuverability.

The appearance of the 枭龙 vector version of the fighter proves the seriousness of Yang Wei’s chief designer “China can use vector technology on any fighter”. It is foreseeable that in the near future, the vector version will be available for fighters such as 歼10, 歼16, 歼20, etc., so that this cutting-edge technology will be cabbageized, and China may become the country with the most vector fighters. But this brings up another problem: that is the problem of training the pilot. After all, the operation of the vector engine requires special training for the pilot, even experienced pilots need to start from scratch. If the direct pilot operates an expensive main fighter to start training from the ground, it is obviously uneconomical.
歼20 will eventually use the vector engine 歼20 will eventually use the vector engine

Therefore, for the Chinese aviation sector, the next most likely launch is the vector version of the trainer. Based on the coach 10 "Falcon" advanced trainer, an upgraded vector trainer was developed. The pilots of the Chinese aviation unit can first carry out various adaptive training on the vector version of the trainer. After mastering the corresponding super-mobile flight skills, the vector version fighters are trained. Therefore, before deploying a large number of vector fighters in China, the development of the vector version of the Falcon trainer will be a top priority. (Author's signature: Hong Chaofei)
Chinese trainer should also launch a vector version of the Chinese trainer should also launch a vector version
 

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解放军内部模拟军演结果曝光:歼10B可体系对抗F35
2019.02.17 13:06:08新浪军事


歼-10B可对抗F-35

解放军曝光内部模拟军演歼-10B能对付F-35,内部军演曾1:4大胜苏-27,消息传出,网上炸锅了,各大平台都在讨论歼-10B如何对抗F-35?

歼-10B和歼-10C是三代半战斗机,苏-27是早期三代机(上世纪80年代水平),雷达和航电包括导弹武器不在一个量级,至少差半代,再加上歼-10B有相控阵雷达,所以歼-10B狂胜苏-27,而且是团灭,大家觉得很正常,毕竟歼-10B是21世纪产品,有代差嘛!
13张新年再看歼10B战机矢量发动机


歼-10B可对抗F-35

那么,解放军曝光歼-10B可体系对抗F-35,大家就有点看不懂了?F-35毕竟是隐身战机呢,歼-10B与它有明显代差呀!虽然中国专家说歼-10B战斗机明显优于邻国的主要战斗机。

局座张召忠表示,歼-10B战机比歼-10A战机的整体性能,至少有30%的性能得升。

此外,随着中国周边国家的第三代战机和美国部署在亚太地区的3.5代战斗机,歼-10B拥有战斗机不落人优势。

三代半的歼-10B战斗机最大起飞重量19吨左右,可外挂6-8吨弹弹药,可在1000公里半径内打击敌人,配备有源相控阵雷达,能够携带PL-10、PL-12、PL-15之类先进空对空导弹。

歼-10B战斗机安装在舱外的电子干扰器和红外搜索跟踪装置,大大提升了战斗机的电子信息系统性能。


歼-10B可对抗F-35

张召忠说,歼-10B的相控雷达很厉害,“就好像在一米见方的雷达上有2000个带着望远镜的眼睛”,有利于夺取制空权。PL-12射程可达七八十公里,PL-15可保证歼-10在150-200公里外干掉F-35,命中概率非常高,目标一旦被锁定,就很难逃脱。

当然,F-35空对空导弹也厉害,AIM-120先进中程空对空导弹、AIM-9X“超级响尾蛇”、AIM-132先进近距离空对空导弹、欧洲“流星”导弹等。


F-35

F-35的隐身设计明显有缺陷,腹部设计失败,尾后也弱,只有正向尚可。


首先一定要体系对抗。中国已经有完备的反隐体系,比如米波反隐身雷达(含预警机),量子雷达;其次体系包括各类地基与空基预警、探测系统,电子战系统,地空导弹系统,战机等;借助自己的多层体系可以做到适时发现跟踪F35,从而引导我空军歼-10B发挥战力击退它。


歼-10B

虽然军方报道中全部都不说,因为保密,但作为军迷,肯定知道歼-10B做为三代半标杆(俄标已经是四代机)对抗F35肯定的,对F22有一定抗衡能能也是必须的!成飞在设计时肯定有考虑过。

普通三代机雷达可能要在20公里左右才能发现F-35,而歼-10B的相控阵雷达利用复眼原理,完全可以在90公里外发现F-35。根据俄国数据,同样配相控阵雷达的苏-35可在90公里外发现隐身目标。中国雷达电子近年已经超过俄国水平,成飞歼-10B的相控阵雷达绝不会低于苏-35的雷达水平。


歼-10B做RCS测试

具有先进红外跟踪搜索装备的3代半战机确实能在一定程度上抗衡4代机,何况成飞对歼10B/C还进行了一定的隐身优化,有效削弱了F-35提前发现先开火的优势。

总结起来,歼-10B能在一定程度上抗衡F-35,需要以下3点:


法车阵风IRST锁定F22图

先进的红外光电搜索跟踪装备(IRST)保证较远距离对隐身机的探测,IRST可使战机在雷达不开机的情况下探测、跟踪目标,在确定目标后再开启雷达并直接用窄波束照射目标并发射导弹,而目标机无法发现是谁发射的导弹。最大优点无需担心对方无线电频率反制。

特别是新一代的长波红外搜索跟踪系统,能够探测飞机蒙皮与空气摩擦的热量和发动机尾流。像F-22这类隐身机进行超音速巡航的时候蒙皮温度也较高,更容易被长波红外系统在较远距离探测到。‘阵风’战斗机的红外搜索跟踪系统,其红外探测能力达到130公里,曾在与美国军演时锁定过F-22。相信这一数据对成飞很有启发。


歼-10B

其次歼-10B进行过rcs优化,使得隐身机的雷达探测距离缩短,歼-10B的外观相较于歼-10B,明显大幅提升了RCS;

第三歼-10B有远程空空导弹,射程至少超过100公里,如PL-15之类,有了长枪,自然不怕F-35的短剑。(作者署名:蜀中行讲武堂)

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The results of the internal simulation military exercise of the People's Liberation Army: 歼10B can be against the F35
2019.02.17 13:06:08 Sina military

歼-10B can fight against F-35

The People's Liberation Army exposed the internal simulation military exercise 歼-10B to deal with the F-35, the internal military exercise had a 1:4 victory over the Su-27, the news came out, the online frying pan, all major platforms are discussing how the 歼-10B fights against the F-35 ?

歼-10B and 歼-10C are three generations of semi-fighting aircraft, Su-27 is the early three generations of aircraft (the level of the 1980s), radar and avionics including missile weapons are not in the order of magnitude, at least half a generation, plus 歼-10B There is phased array radar, so 歼-10B triumphs Su-27, and it is a group, everyone feels normal, after all, 歼-10B is a 21st century product, there is a generation difference!
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歼-10B can fight against F-35

Then, the People's Liberation Army exposed the 歼-10B system against the F-35, everyone can't understand it? After all, the F-35 is a stealth fighter. The 歼-10B has a significant difference with it! Although Chinese experts say the J-10B fighter is clearly superior to the main fighters in neighboring countries.

The position of Zhang Zhaozhong said that the overall performance of the J-10B fighter is higher than that of the J-10A.

In addition, with the third-generation fighters in China's neighboring countries and the 3.5-generation fighters deployed by the United States in the Asia-Pacific region, the J-10B has a fighter-free advantage.

The three-and-a-half-generation J-10B fighter has a maximum take-off weight of 19 tons. It can be used to hang 6-8 tons of ammunition. It can attack enemies within a radius of 1000 kilometers. It is equipped with active phased array radar and can carry PL-10 and PL-12. Advanced air-to-air missiles such as the PL-15.

The X-10B fighter is equipped with an electronic jammer and an infrared search and tracking device outside the cabin, which greatly enhances the performance of the electronic information system of the fighter.

歼-10B can fight against F-35

Zhang Zhaozhong said that the phase-controlled radar of the J-10B is very powerful. "It is like there are 2,000 eyes with telescopes on the radar of one meter square", which is conducive to the acquisition of air superiority. The PL-12 has a range of 70 to 80 kilometers. The PL-15 can guarantee that the J-10 will kill the F-35 150-200 kilometers away. The hit probability is very high. Once the target is locked, it is difficult to escape.

Of course, the F-35 air-to-air missiles are also powerful. The AIM-120 is an advanced medium-range air-to-air missile, the AIM-9X "super rattlesnake", the AIM-132 advanced short-range air-to-air missile, and the European "Meteor" missile.

F-35

The stealth design of the F-35 is obviously flawed, the abdomen design fails, and the tail is weak, only the positive is acceptable.

First of all, we must confront the system. China already has a complete anti-hidden system, such as Mibo anti-stealth radar (including early warning aircraft), quantum radar; second system includes various types of foundation and space-based warning, detection systems, electronic warfare systems, ground-to-air missile systems, fighters, etc.; My own multi-layer system can find the tracking F35 at the right time, thus guiding my Air Force 歼-10B to play to defeat it.

歼-10B

Although the military reports did not say all, because of confidentiality, but as a military fan, I definitely know that the 歼-10B is a three-generation and half-standard (Russian standard is already a fourth-generation machine) against the F35, and it has a certain resistance to the F22. necessary! Chengfei must have been considered in the design.

The ordinary three-generation radar may only find the F-35 within 20 kilometers, while the 歼-10B phased array radar uses the compound eye principle to find the F-35 90 kilometers away. According to Russian data, the Su-35, which is also equipped with phased array radar, can find stealth targets 90 kilometers away. China's radar electronics has surpassed the Russian level in recent years, and the phased array radar of the Chengfei 歼-10B will never be lower than the radar level of the Su-35.

歼-10B do RCS test

The 3rd generation semi-warfare aircraft with advanced infrared tracking search equipment can indeed compete with the 4th generation machine to a certain extent, not to mention the fact that Chengfei has also carried out certain stealth optimization on 歼10B/C, effectively weakening the advantage of F-35 finding the first fire first. .

To sum up, the 歼-10B can compete with the F-35 to a certain extent, and requires the following three points:

French car gust IRST lock F22 map

The advanced infrared photoelectric search and tracking equipment (IRST) guarantees the detection of the stealth machine at a long distance. The IRST can detect and track the target without the radar being turned on. After the target is determined, the radar is turned on and the target is directly illuminated by the narrow beam. And the missile was launched, and the target machine could not find out who launched the missile. The biggest advantage is that you don't have to worry about the radio frequency counter.

In particular, a new generation of long-wave infrared search and tracking systems that detect the heat and engine wake of aircraft skin and air friction. When the stealth machine such as the F-22 performs supersonic cruise, the skin temperature is also higher, which is more easily detected by the long-wave infrared system at a longer distance. The infrared search and tracking system of the gusty fighter has an infrared detection capability of 130 kilometers and has been locked in the F-22 during the US military exercise. I believe this data is very inspiring for Cheng Fei.

歼-10B

Secondly, the 歼-10B has been optimized by rcs, which shortens the radar detection range of the stealth machine. The appearance of the 歼-10B is significantly higher than that of the 歼-10B, which significantly increases the RCS.

The third 歼-10B has a long-range air-to-air missile with a range of at least 100 kilometers. Like the PL-15, with a long gun, it is naturally not afraid of the short sword of the F-35. (Author's signature: 蜀中行讲武堂)

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