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普悠瑪根本沒裝ATP遠端監測系統 資深司機員驚「看新聞才知道」
上報
2k 人追蹤
上報快訊／黃雅旋
2018年10月24日 下午7:52
時代力量立委黃國昌24日在立法院交通委員會質詢時，踢爆台鐵早在2010年時耗資1700萬餘元加裝遠端監視系統，一旦駕駛關閉ATP（列車自動保護系統）行控中心即可掌握，但台鐵之後證實，台鐵全系列車種在2010年皆安裝ATP遠端監控功能，卻獨漏2012年引進的普悠瑪，並未加裝監控功能。
其實，早在2006年台鐵列車就全面加裝ATP，由於初期時常當機或為了趕準點，司機員常關掉ATP，也造成2007年6月大里擦撞事故。台鐵當時落實查核，除禁止司機關閉ATP外，在2010年花費1700多萬元完成所有列車加裝「遠端監視系統」，行控中心就可監看掌握ATP狀態是否關閉。
普悠瑪事故當天的司機員尤振仲曾向檢方供稱，關閉ATP前有通報調度員，但台鐵副局長杜微事後回應，指出經調閱無線電通聯紀錄，並未發現司機員向調度員報備要關閉ATP，調度員並不知情，所以未根據SOP操作配合來因應。
不過，台鐵局長鹿潔身對此說明指出，當年遠端監控系統不易判讀，造成調度員困擾，才決定引進普悠瑪時決定暫不安裝，目前已要求廠商研究優化，未來普悠瑪將加裝。至於無論列車有無遠端監控系統，均要求遵守ATP使用與管理要點。
副局長杜微也指出，經調閱無線電通聯紀錄，並未發現司機員向調度員報備要關閉ATP，調度員並不知情，因而未根據SOP配合因應，
台鐵事後承認，ATP故障難免，目前列車ATP若被人關閉，雖然已經要求司機員主動回報故障或關閉原因，需下一停靠站重新開啟，但目前來說，即便當ATP被關閉而未回報，台鐵無法得知。
台鐵機務處副處長賴隨金表示，台鐵已經發現ATP遠端監控問題，未來會重新改善檢討。
此外，台鐵電務處長陳瑞聰表示，該遠端監視裝置是於2010年3月在當時所有列車上都加裝，一旦司機員把ATP關掉，行控中心不但有警報顯示，還會將關掉ATP的列車車次號碼標記出來。但普悠瑪是在2012年引進、2013年啟用的列車，引進之後，台鐵當時未針對普悠瑪加裝ATP遠端監視設備，因此普悠瑪是唯一沒有遠端監控設備的列車。
台鐵工會文宣組長、資深司機員吳長智聞訊後痛斥，連司機員本身也不知道普悠瑪沒有裝設ATP遠端監控系統，吳長智說：「是看新聞才知道」。他呼籲，保安系統應延續所有車種，不應獨漏，系統發射訊號，應讓行控中心得知掌握才合理。
《蘋果》報導指出，台鐵普悠瑪共19組，2組跑西部幹線，17組跑東部幹線，檢視花蓮機廠與富岡基地修理處的普悠瑪報修紀錄，從2017年至2018年10月為止，普悠瑪ATP因故障送廠修理超過50次。（10案公投綁大選）
Pu Yuma did not install the ATP remote monitoring system at all. The senior driver was shocked.
[report]
Report
2k person tracking
Reporting News / Huang Yaxuan
October 24, 2018, 7:52 PM
On the 24th, when the Legislative Affairs Committee of the Legislative Yuan of the Legislative Yuan of the Legislative Yuan, the State Council of the People’s Republic of China kicked off the Taiwan Railways and spent more than 17 million yuan to install a remote monitoring system in 2010. Once driving, the ATP (Train Automatic Protection System) control center will be closed. Can be mastered, but after the Taiwan Railway confirmed that the full range of models of the Taiwan Railways installed ATP remote monitoring functions in 2010, but only leaked the Puyuma introduced in 2012, and did not install monitoring functions.
In fact, as early as 2006, the Taitung Railway train was fully equipped with ATP. Due to the initial crash or the need to catch up, the driver often turned off the ATP, which also caused the collision in June 2007. At the time, the Taiwan Railways implemented a check. In addition to prohibiting drivers from shutting down ATP, in 2010, it spent more than 17 million yuan to complete the installation of "remote monitoring system" for all trains. The control center can monitor whether the ATP status is closed.
The driver of the Pumayma accident, Zhen Zhenzhong, once told the prosecution that there was a notification dispatcher before the ATP was closed, but Du Wei, deputy director of the Taiwan Railway, responded afterwards, stating that after reviewing the radiocommunication records, the driver was not found. The dispatcher reported that the ATP should be closed, and the dispatcher did not know, so it did not respond according to the SOP operation.
However, the director of the Taiwan Railways, Lu Jie, pointed out that the remote monitoring system was difficult to interpret in the past, which caused the dispatcher to be troubled. Only when he decided to introduce Puyuma, he decided not to install it. At present, the manufacturer has been asked to study and optimize, and the future will be Installed. Regardless of whether the train has a remote monitoring system, it is required to comply with ATP usage and management points.
Deputy Director Du Wei also pointed out that after reviewing the radiocommunication records, the driver did not find that the driver reported to the dispatcher to close the ATP. The dispatcher did not know and did not respond according to the SOP.
The Taiwan Railway later admitted that the ATP failure is inevitable. At present, if the train ATP is closed, although the driver has been asked to take the initiative to report the failure or the reason for the shutdown, the next stop is required to be reopened, but at present, even when the ATP is closed, the return is not reported. Taiwan Railway cannot know.
Lai Suijin, deputy director of the Taiwan Railways Department, said that the Taiwan Railways has discovered ATP remote monitoring problems and will re-evaluate the review in the future.
In addition, Chen Ruicong, director of the Taiwan Railways, said that the remote monitoring device was installed on all trains at that time in March 2010. Once the driver turned off the ATP, the control center not only showed an alarm but also The train number of the ATP is turned off. However, Puyuma was introduced in 2012 and started in 2013. After the introduction, the Taiwan Railway did not install ATP remote monitoring equipment for Puyuma at that time. Therefore, Puyuma is the only train without remote monitoring equipment.
Wu Changzhi, the leader of the Taiwan Railway Trade Union's Wenxuan and senior driver, screamed after hearing the news. Even the driver himself did not know that Puyou had not installed the ATP remote monitoring system. Wu Changzhi said: "It is only by watching the news." He appealed that the security system should continue all types of vehicles and should not be left alone. The system should transmit signals and it should be reasonable for the control center to know.
"Apple" reported that there are 19 groups of Taitung Puyuma, two groups running the western trunk line, and 17 groups running the eastern trunk line. The Puyuma repair records of the Hualien machine factory and the Fugang base repair office are reviewed. From 2017 to 2018 10 As of the end of the month, Puyuma ATP was sent to the factory for repairs more than 50 times due to malfunction. (10 case referendum tied the election)
普悠瑪根本沒裝ATP遠端監測系統 資深司機員驚「看新聞才知道」
上報
2k 人追蹤
上報快訊／黃雅旋
2018年10月24日 下午7:52
時代力量立委黃國昌24日在立法院交通委員會質詢時，踢爆台鐵早在2010年時耗資1700萬餘元加裝遠端監視系統，一旦駕駛關閉ATP（列車自動保護系統）行控中心即可掌握，但台鐵之後證實，台鐵全系列車種在2010年皆安裝ATP遠端監控功能，卻獨漏2012年引進的普悠瑪，並未加裝監控功能。
其實，早在2006年台鐵列車就全面加裝ATP，由於初期時常當機或為了趕準點，司機員常關掉ATP，也造成2007年6月大里擦撞事故。台鐵當時落實查核，除禁止司機關閉ATP外，在2010年花費1700多萬元完成所有列車加裝「遠端監視系統」，行控中心就可監看掌握ATP狀態是否關閉。
普悠瑪事故當天的司機員尤振仲曾向檢方供稱，關閉ATP前有通報調度員，但台鐵副局長杜微事後回應，指出經調閱無線電通聯紀錄，並未發現司機員向調度員報備要關閉ATP，調度員並不知情，所以未根據SOP操作配合來因應。
不過，台鐵局長鹿潔身對此說明指出，當年遠端監控系統不易判讀，造成調度員困擾，才決定引進普悠瑪時決定暫不安裝，目前已要求廠商研究優化，未來普悠瑪將加裝。至於無論列車有無遠端監控系統，均要求遵守ATP使用與管理要點。
副局長杜微也指出，經調閱無線電通聯紀錄，並未發現司機員向調度員報備要關閉ATP，調度員並不知情，因而未根據SOP配合因應，
台鐵事後承認，ATP故障難免，目前列車ATP若被人關閉，雖然已經要求司機員主動回報故障或關閉原因，需下一停靠站重新開啟，但目前來說，即便當ATP被關閉而未回報，台鐵無法得知。
台鐵機務處副處長賴隨金表示，台鐵已經發現ATP遠端監控問題，未來會重新改善檢討。
此外，台鐵電務處長陳瑞聰表示，該遠端監視裝置是於2010年3月在當時所有列車上都加裝，一旦司機員把ATP關掉，行控中心不但有警報顯示，還會將關掉ATP的列車車次號碼標記出來。但普悠瑪是在2012年引進、2013年啟用的列車，引進之後，台鐵當時未針對普悠瑪加裝ATP遠端監視設備，因此普悠瑪是唯一沒有遠端監控設備的列車。
台鐵工會文宣組長、資深司機員吳長智聞訊後痛斥，連司機員本身也不知道普悠瑪沒有裝設ATP遠端監控系統，吳長智說：「是看新聞才知道」。他呼籲，保安系統應延續所有車種，不應獨漏，系統發射訊號，應讓行控中心得知掌握才合理。
《蘋果》報導指出，台鐵普悠瑪共19組，2組跑西部幹線，17組跑東部幹線，檢視花蓮機廠與富岡基地修理處的普悠瑪報修紀錄，從2017年至2018年10月為止，普悠瑪ATP因故障送廠修理超過50次。（10案公投綁大選）
Pu Yuma did not install the ATP remote monitoring system at all. The senior driver was shocked.
[report]
Report
2k person tracking
Reporting News / Huang Yaxuan
October 24, 2018, 7:52 PM
On the 24th, when the Legislative Affairs Committee of the Legislative Yuan of the Legislative Yuan of the Legislative Yuan, the State Council of the People’s Republic of China kicked off the Taiwan Railways and spent more than 17 million yuan to install a remote monitoring system in 2010. Once driving, the ATP (Train Automatic Protection System) control center will be closed. Can be mastered, but after the Taiwan Railway confirmed that the full range of models of the Taiwan Railways installed ATP remote monitoring functions in 2010, but only leaked the Puyuma introduced in 2012, and did not install monitoring functions.
In fact, as early as 2006, the Taitung Railway train was fully equipped with ATP. Due to the initial crash or the need to catch up, the driver often turned off the ATP, which also caused the collision in June 2007. At the time, the Taiwan Railways implemented a check. In addition to prohibiting drivers from shutting down ATP, in 2010, it spent more than 17 million yuan to complete the installation of "remote monitoring system" for all trains. The control center can monitor whether the ATP status is closed.
The driver of the Pumayma accident, Zhen Zhenzhong, once told the prosecution that there was a notification dispatcher before the ATP was closed, but Du Wei, deputy director of the Taiwan Railway, responded afterwards, stating that after reviewing the radiocommunication records, the driver was not found. The dispatcher reported that the ATP should be closed, and the dispatcher did not know, so it did not respond according to the SOP operation.
However, the director of the Taiwan Railways, Lu Jie, pointed out that the remote monitoring system was difficult to interpret in the past, which caused the dispatcher to be troubled. Only when he decided to introduce Puyuma, he decided not to install it. At present, the manufacturer has been asked to study and optimize, and the future will be Installed. Regardless of whether the train has a remote monitoring system, it is required to comply with ATP usage and management points.
Deputy Director Du Wei also pointed out that after reviewing the radiocommunication records, the driver did not find that the driver reported to the dispatcher to close the ATP. The dispatcher did not know and did not respond according to the SOP.
The Taiwan Railway later admitted that the ATP failure is inevitable. At present, if the train ATP is closed, although the driver has been asked to take the initiative to report the failure or the reason for the shutdown, the next stop is required to be reopened, but at present, even when the ATP is closed, the return is not reported. Taiwan Railway cannot know.
Lai Suijin, deputy director of the Taiwan Railways Department, said that the Taiwan Railways has discovered ATP remote monitoring problems and will re-evaluate the review in the future.
In addition, Chen Ruicong, director of the Taiwan Railways, said that the remote monitoring device was installed on all trains at that time in March 2010. Once the driver turned off the ATP, the control center not only showed an alarm but also The train number of the ATP is turned off. However, Puyuma was introduced in 2012 and started in 2013. After the introduction, the Taiwan Railway did not install ATP remote monitoring equipment for Puyuma at that time. Therefore, Puyuma is the only train without remote monitoring equipment.
Wu Changzhi, the leader of the Taiwan Railway Trade Union's Wenxuan and senior driver, screamed after hearing the news. Even the driver himself did not know that Puyou had not installed the ATP remote monitoring system. Wu Changzhi said: "It is only by watching the news." He appealed that the security system should continue all types of vehicles and should not be left alone. The system should transmit signals and it should be reasonable for the control center to know.
"Apple" reported that there are 19 groups of Taitung Puyuma, two groups running the western trunk line, and 17 groups running the eastern trunk line. The Puyuma repair records of the Hualien machine factory and the Fugang base repair office are reviewed. From 2017 to 2018 10 As of the end of the month, Puyuma ATP was sent to the factory for repairs more than 50 times due to malfunction. (10 case referendum tied the election)
