Desmond Choo defects from PAP to NSP, wears NSP uniform.
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NSP finds Hougang candidate! (tongue in cheek)
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Desmond Choo defects from PAP to NSP, wears NSP uniform.
Why Dr Ong? Attack WP can, attack NSP cannot issit?
Another of WP member coming out to defence.
What, am I not GMS?
No problem assume me to be Dr Ong then.
GMS loves himself too much, assume is making an ass out of u and me. I know you are
It does not matter who you assume me for. As long as you guys keeps throwing stone unnecessary at your opponent, you reveal your weekness and I will come and screw you.
It's not him. But whatever the case, we know most don't bother to indicate a joke in the title thread and it misleads. Showing extra courtesy one throws extra flak can only be a troll and if anyone wants to be treated as a troll, he will be treated like one.
I'm afraid your humour has escaped me.
What's the difference between PAP and NSP?????????
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One gets paid by the other and takes direction from them. All done covertly.
Like how you screwed these people? http://gutteruncensorednewsd.blogspot.com/search/label/Dr Joseph Ong
It does not hurt me one bit. Go ahead, why don't post more.
Trying very hard to be neutral. But beneath, the arrogance is telling, your message is clear. In Singapore poltical space, there is no room for other parties except WP and PAP.
What is new, I am not surprise with the aggression of the WP crowd here.
Trying very hard to be neutral. But beneath, the arrogance is telling, your message is clear. In Singapore poltical space, there is no room for other parties except WP and PAP.
What is new, I am not surprise with the aggression of the WP crowd here.
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Nothing wrong with WP being arrogant and aggressive. Sometimes you just have to do that to move ahead. Why should they hold themselves back for the sake of keeping the weaker parties relevant?
There is always room for more political parties. In the UK, for example, there is a semi-relevant 3rd Party - the Liberal Democrats. They become really relevant two years ago when the results forced the Conservatives to form a coalition government with them.
The way I see it now, the remaining opposition parties are looking to become this Liberal Democrats, and it is a race against time. The huge blow was dealt when NSP or SDP couldn't even get an NCMP into parliament, and for sure Lina Chiam is not going to lead the "Relevant 3rd Party". Then who will? Goh Meng Seng? Tan Jee Say? Nicole Seah? Hazel Poa? Steve Chia? Chee Soon Juan? Can you now see the problem of getting this "Relevant 3rd Party" going?
The next two GEs will decide whether this "Relevant 3rd Party" will be successful. If they can win a few seats while WP fails to win additional seats behind Hougang-Aljunied, then it might just happen. If WP continues wins more seats while the others don't make any progress, then pretty much we are looking at the foundations of a two-party system.
Seriously, I can't believe there are dumbfucks around that think that the best opposition strategy is to have several small opposition parties each competing against the dominant party for different slices of the pie, then form a coalition government amongst themselves after ousting the dominant party from power. You have to be seriously idiot to think that will ever work out.
There is always room for more political parties. In the UK, for example, there is a semi-relevant 3rd Party - the Liberal Democrats. They become really relevant two years ago when the results forced the Conservatives to form a coalition government with them.
The way I see it now, the remaining opposition parties are looking to become this Liberal Democrats, and it is a race against time. The huge blow was dealt when NSP or SDP couldn't even get an NCMP into parliament, and for sure Lina Chiam is not going to lead the "Relevant 3rd Party". Then who will? Goh Meng Seng? Tan Jee Say? Nicole Seah? Hazel Poa? Steve Chia? Chee Soon Juan? Can you now see the problem of getting this "Relevant 3rd Party" going?
The next two GEs will decide whether this "Relevant 3rd Party" will be successful. If they can win a few seats while WP fails to win additional seats behind Hougang-Aljunied, then it might just happen. If WP continues wins more seats while the others don't make any progress, then pretty much we are looking at the foundations of a two-party system.
Seriously, I can't believe there are dumbfucks around that think that the best opposition strategy is to have several small opposition parties each competing against the dominant party for different slices of the pie, then form a coalition government amongst themselves after ousting the dominant party from power. You have to be seriously idiot to think that will ever work out.
When or where did I give you that indication that I am for a coalition government?
I have no problem WP being arrogant having won seats besides the ruling party in the last election, but don't forget the margins gain by other opposition despite having none elected. But to behave and act too aggresively when WP margin of victory in Aljunied is still slim and go into 3CF in the next election will be sucidal. Imo, 2016 is a time for consolidation, improve WP margins and capture more seats from the PAP, then start to act like a big brother.
Before you make sweeping statement and question that nobody else can lead another party, let's not forget about the politcal landscape of the people. So, where does WP stand in the social divide? Would WP bend towards the left or will they stick to the far right where PAP stands?
As it is now, I can't see how WP is going to cater to the aspiration of the disgrunted lots on the left and many of these are young and idealistic voters. As many have perceived WP is no different to PAP.
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2 years back, many people already told gms that his "new flats at costs/costplus" focus will not be well received by the voters, because people do not want to see the possibility of a collapse in their property prices... he and his supporters were just too full of themselves... thus more or less expected that NSP couldn't get any seat.. it was no surprise.. anyway SDP also called for flats at costs..
It's not arrogance on WP part, they just go along their political business and do as they deem fit. So should every other party, but that's not the case. It's sour jealousy for some who want to climb up high and fast but see no possibility of achieving so with the giant PAP or the mini-giant WP. So, they join smaller parties or start their own parties. To make themselves the premier frontline adversaries of PAP, they have to put down WP first. And of course, there's the question of infiltration.
Consolidation is definitely a given. Their priority would be to hold on to Aljunied and Hougang, and to try to breakthrough in East Coast and Joo Chiat. However, there is no way WP will simply sit on the 23 seats that they competed in GE2011. They have gone from 7 (2 after disqualification) in GE2001 to 20 in GE2006. Their longterm plan is surely to eventually be able to compete in all seats maybe in 2031.
They will need to carefully consider how far and where they are going to try to expand into and this will depend on the resources they will have available and the political landscape in 2016. With SDA becoming irrelevant, they will surely step into Pasir Ris - Punggol. SPP looks set to implode too, so Bishan - Toa Payoh may be the next target. Potong Pasir is going to be dicey - I suspect WP will step away if SPP insists on trying to win it back but if SPP steps away, WP will definitely be going in.
Geographically, Tampinese, AMK, and Marine Parade are the likely next GRC targets, and that is where WP have to do their calculations and to get the feel of the ground to see if they are worth going into. Whompoa and Mountbatten SMC, if still around, will likely interest the WP too. However, I have a feeling come GE2016 SMCs will start disappearing from the east and appearing in the west...
I though it's pretty obvious what WP has been doing. Against a far-right wing party like the PAP, the best position to be is centrist-right - somewhere just slightly to the left of where the PAP is. Theoretically you should be able to win the votes from the left-wingers without alienating the right-wingers. It will get trickier in a 3CF, presumably the 3rd party will be leftist, so WP will have to move further to the center.
This nearly worked for Tan Cheng Bock. With a smarter voting population it would have worked, and i suspect the voting population will be smarter in 2016.
Always make sense when you talk about polictics... ONLY
Any idea if this takes place in 1st world countries?
You want me to talk about eating dogs, beating people up or courting girls? Just kidding. Anyway, the two best political compliments I've received was in 2006.
LTK : You're right.
GMS : You're the best politician.
Ram : I'm not footing the bill. You two decide.
In first world countries (politically, not only economically), there's no necessity for infiltration. Voting against the whip and open disgreement or defection is openly common.
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