More new lies from Lim Swee Say, Minister in PM's Office (ie chor boh)

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Written by Ng E-Jay
24 June 2014

Mr Lim Swee Say spoke about the CPF at the Singapore Model Parliament debates held last week. However, the statements he made do not make any sense, and certain points he made about the CPF being risk free also deserve a rebuttal.

Firstly, Mr Lim said that people should use less of their CPF money when they are young, and they should also try to defer drawing down their CPF when they reach the age of 55. These statements were made in BOTH the original press interview as well as the clarification that he later sent to the media (see here).

However, Mr Lim also asserts that the CPF is for housing, healthcare and education, in addition to serving retirement needs. He makes this assertion in the context of assuring Singaporeans that “CPF is your money“. Again, this point is repeated in BOTH the media interview as well as his subsequent clarification.

Why does this not make sense? If you want citizens to save more CPF money for retirement, then you should not be asking them to spend the CPF on so many needs including housing, healthcare and education simultaneously.

In other words, the CPF should NOT be turned into an escrow account to ensure that all Singaporeans pay for their expensive houses and medical bills from their own retirement savings, and in so doing relieve the state of the burden of caring for its citizens.

When the government allows property prices to skyrocket, it benefits property owners, but it also means people entering the workforce have to spend more and more on housing, leaving less for retirement. This is what has been happening thus far.

In terms of healthcare, the government through its Medishield Life plan, is also trying to push the burden of healthcare financing onto its citizens so that it does not have to spend so much money taking care of them.

Amongst the developed nations, Singapore spends very little on healthcare when measured as a percentage of GDP, or even when measured as a percentage of annual government revenue.

The government has used the Medishield accounts and the Medishield Life plan to pass the buck back onto the citizens. It should instead be enacting measure to keep the cost of healthcare under control and prevent abuse.

In the long run, only sound government policy can prevent the cost of medical expenses from rising too fast. Merely asking citizens to save more and spend more money on insurance will not keep costs under control.

Second, Mr Lim says that “your money with CPF is 100% safe and continues to earn risk free interest”.

This statement unfortunately neglects other forms of risk, including liquidity risk, duration risk and policy risk.

CPF members suffer from liquidity and policy risk because the government can arbitrarily delay the draw down age as and when it pleases. The government also has the policy of increasing the minimum sum periodically. In fact, the increase in minimum sum over the past 10 years has even outstripped the high inflation rate in Singapore.

CPF members also suffer from duration risk. Why is this so? This is due to the fact that the government can change the CPF interest rate as it pleases. Also, the government can change the CPF Life payouts whenever it detects changes in the inflation rate, mortality rate, or life expectancy of the population.

Thus, whilst CPF funds are treated on the same status as sovereign bonds, CPF members are subjected to other forms of risk which sovereign bonds are not subjected to, including policy risk, duration risk, and liquidity risk.

Thirdly, Mr Lim Swee Say (once again) mangles the English language by asserting that “young refers to those who are aged 55“. I leave this statement for my readers to refute. It is beneath discussion.

http://www.sgpolitics.net/?p=8838
 
What the tooth prick cunt was saying was pertaining to himself.
He can defer drawing his CPF for housing cos he is paying CASH up front for it and can afford to leave the sum in CPF cos with his million dollar pay checks ( note plural), all the money in his CPF, amounts to peanuts!
 
This guy is unbelievable - young for him is now aged 55 when they take out some of the CPF over and above the minimum sum. So when does young classification end - age 60 ? One lie after another
 
Can't believe there would be a shameless plug for NTUC membership in the background when the media doggies were interviewing Zorro Lim. :cool:


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Zorro limp means this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2eNRRqgFYE , at 55 years, old, we are the young ones, the pubic hairs getting white & dropping off, on the head it is almost gone or none...like the "young ones"... ha ha ha ha :D

This Shit Say is tying himself more and more with each piece of shit that comes out from his mouth.
Minister indeed, and in the PM's office no less!
 
.................One lie after another

When I was a little boy my granny, who was illiterate, used to caution me against telling lies, either in an individual capacity or as in a group.

She said: "You can tell someone is lying when he keeps making corrections and further adjustments to his original statement."

But the more important thing I learned from her is this: "You can tell a statement is a lie when it is presented/interpreted in different ways by different people at different time periods.

On the other hand TRUTH is immutable: it's the same regardless of the number of people presenting it at different time periods."

Statements on CPF made by some ministars in recent days are examples of lies or half-truths.
 
actually the gahment did nt allowed property prices to go up. tat is a stupid statement. they caused property prices to go up with introduction of purchase opened to non citizens, and controlled release of land skewed to high demand to supply ratio.

all the current ills, including high debt ratio r a direction result of their intervention becos it willl suit their agenda. not forgetting who owns more land and more retail n industrial properties.
 
Can't believe this mofo said that Sinkies should not overdraw their CPF for things other than housing, healthcare, and education.

What else is there that we can withdraw? He is incredibly out of touch with the workers. Why the fuck is he still the labour chief and a Minister in the PMO at that!?
 
Pathetic that Ministers had to make statements and later issue corrections or clarifications. Nothing is as consistent as the truth, and if people have to restate their earlier positions, it means that they were not talking straight in the first place.
 
Can't believe this mofo said that Sinkies should not overdraw their CPF for things other than housing, healthcare, and education.

What else is there that we can withdraw? He is incredibly out of touch with the workers. Why the fuck is he still the labour chief and a Minister in the PMO at that!?

He is the biggest piece of shit that the NTUC can ever hope to produce again. And the most soul-less prostitute.

In the olden days, useless MPs like him were simple called Minister Without Portfolio. But with the branding exercise by PAP, these scumbags are retitled Ministers in the PM Office. And there are at least 5 or 6 of these chiak liau bees lazing around, trying to look busy.
 
Really sianz of the SHIT PEE EFF thing. Remember, MONEY NOT IN YOUR POCKET IS NOT YOUR MONEY. The 60% supported and the 40% did not whack the 60% for supporting. So all deserved to be SCREWED!

It's punishment for STINKEE whether from 60% or 40%. Advice for the 40%, hoot the 60% jialat jialat, then maybe you got chance to see you SHIT PEE EFF.
 
When I was a little boy my granny, who was illiterate, used to caution me against telling lies, either in an individual capacity or as in a group.

She said: "You can tell someone is lying when he keeps making corrections and further adjustments to his original statement."

But the more important thing I learned from her is this: "You can tell a statement is a lie when it is presented/interpreted in different ways by different people at different time periods.

On the other hand TRUTH is immutable: it's the same regardless of the number of people presenting it at different time periods."

Statements on CPF made by some ministars in recent days are examples of lies or half-truths.

My late mother use to teach me, "people who keep defending their honour, are not trustworthy, they have a lot to hide from you"...
 
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