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Re: Tough Job Market

My view is to rely on yourself and stop thinking that you have the birth right to have a job.

The essence of working is to serve the society and monetary reward is there to measure if the public accept your service willingly with a reason and logic.

People are educated nowadays to work is for themselves. This selfish concept got to stop if they wish to progress well in life. This kind of thinking is age-old and 3rd world.

Sounds alot like a PAP line (surprisingly).

Everybody says that when he is part of the 95% and drops those lines when he is part of the 5%.

That is why the 95% slowly get worse off and become no different from the 5%.
 

tonychat

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Originally Posted by tonychat
My view is to rely on yourself and stop thinking that you have the birth right to have a job.

The essence of working is to serve the society and monetary reward is there to measure if the public accept your service willingly with a reason and logic.

People are educated nowadays to work is for themselves. This selfish concept got to stop if they wish to progress well in life. This kind of thinking is age-old and 3rd world.

Sounds alot like a PAP line (surprisingly).

Everybody says that when he is part of the 95% and drops those lines when he is part of the 5%.

That is why the 95% slowly get worse off and become no different from the 5%.

Sounds a lot like PAP??? My quote refers to those in the govt as well.

You mean you work is for yourself? You have no direct link from your work to the others that received your work?

I guess that is why there is depression and recession and dun blame the economy when these selfish people are wacked by recession. They deserve it.
 

Ah Hai

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SCMP: Former finance chief willing to testify about Lehman fiasco

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
SCMP: Former finance chief willing to testify about Lehman fiasco

9 Mar 2009
Former secretary for financial services and the treasury Frederick Ma Si-hang yesterday said he was willing to testify in the Legislative Council about the Lehman Brothers minibonds fiasco, but refused to comment on the proceedings so far. "You all know that I have always been very co-operative with Legco," said Mr Ma, who also served as secretary for commerce and economic development before he resigned for health reasons. "But since I am no longer an official, I do not have access to all the records {hellip} If I go, it will just be me and my brain." His successor, Chan Ka-keung, has told Legco that he did not know what a minibond was until the fiasco. Mr Ma refused to reveal how much he knew about minibonds, saying: "You will have to wait for the Legco hearing."
 

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Gilbert Goh's book: How to survive unemployment

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Gilbert Goh's book: How to survive unemployment

Video of book launch. This is a useful book for people who are retrenched or unemployed.

http://www.vimeo.com/3551504

Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 10:33 AM
 

Ah Hai

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There are two groups coordinating the Minibond investors:

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Minibond Investors
There are two groups coordinating the Minibond investors:

a) Group 1 (Minibond Victims Group) coordinates the investors who bought from the banks
website

b) Group 2 (Minibond Investors Action Group) cooridnates the investors who bought mainly (but not exclusively) from the brokerages.

Group 2 wish to inform the investors about their website, as follows:
http://www.miagsg.com/

I wish to advise investors to study the approach taken by the two groups and to decide which group suit your interest better.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 8:44 PM
 

Ah Hai

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WSJ: Sands President Abruptly Resigns

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
WSJ: Sands President Abruptly Resigns

Read this report. This resignation may cause problem with Marina Bay Sands.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123662060460773667.html

Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 8:54 PM
1 comments:

David said...

Last year, during the financial storm, Las Vegas Sands stock had fallen over 90% from its peak and was also financially strapped. Work was terminated for casino in Macau but Singapore was not affected. Wonder why. Did Singapore did something that Macau didn't?

Anyone can speculate? So how will this latest scenario play out?
March 10, 2009 9:17 PM
 

Ah Hai

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SCMP:Minibond blame for government

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
SCMP:Minibond blame for government

About 60 per cent of respondents to a Civic Party survey said the government had to share responsibility for the minibonds saga. Of 1,000 respondents, 72 per cent said the Monetary Authority and Securities and Futures Commission failed to make full reports of their bank investigations.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 9:26 PM
 

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Re: SCMP:Minibond blame for government

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
SCMP:Investment complaints for SFC
The Monetary Authority has referred to the Securities and Futures Commission seven complaints regarding a licensed bank’s promotion of Lehman Brothers investment products, to decide whether follow-up action is needed. The authority has received 20,345 complaints so far about the Lehman Brothers products and is investigating 4,876 cases.
 

Ah Hai

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Loss of SGD 70 trillion in 2008

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Loss of SGD 70 trillion in 2008

The world suffered a loss of SGD 70 trillion in 2008. This is the drop in asset values in all the markets around the world. Prior to this drop, the world had assets of probably between $150 to $200 trillion. Is the world really poorer now, compared to 2007? Were the assets destroyed?

The same assets (i.e. businesses, hotels, properties) were still around. They are now partly unutilised, due to the drop in consumer demand, but in terms of physical quality, they are not impaired. In this case, why should they be considered as losing one third to half of their value?

This is a weakness of the free market system that formed the foundation of the economic system that has now collapsed. By depreciating the value of these assets to this extent, the world does not become better. In fact, it becomes worse when the values keep wpiralling downwards. People react to this situation by cutting down on their speding, making matters worse for the wider economy.

To solve this problem, we must give people the confidence to continue spending as before. This will generate demand, which will create employment, help to pay for the mortgage on their homes.

A possible solution: give people access to personal credit (especially if they lose their jobs or suffer a drop in earnings).
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 9:37 PM
4 comments:

zhummmeng said...

"In the near term, governments around the world must continue to take forceful and, when appropriate, coordinated actions to restore financial market functioning and the flow of credit." said Bernanke
There must be strong end effective regulation to bring back confidence but our regulator is still adamant about self regulation.
Even Alan Greenspan admitted the crises were due to no regulation, a systemic problem.
Is MAS sticking to its gun of caveat emptor? Public confidence in the FIs is at an all time low.
Insurance companies are at wits end and are rolling out rubbish products. They are passing off new products as the good old products of the good old days as going back to basic. The consumers must not be fooled to believe them that these risky new product could give good returns and protection at low cost.
It is a marketing deception and it is cheating.
March 10, 2009 11:24 PM
zhummmeng said...

Hope that a new rule book is not yet another book to gather dust somewhere in the regulator's storeroom.
We already have those rules but they are still 'brand new', unused and resulted in financial fracas. Insurance companies too have mission statements like the 'hippocritical oaths' to decorate the walls at service lounge.
They are phoney and are intended to deceive the public
March 11, 2009 9:29 AM
ym said...

the crisis wasnt due to under-regulation and free-market...

the crisis was due to greenspan/bernanke themselves who manipulates int-rates..

is the market really free when int-rates are controlled by the overated-wits of the central banks?

back to more credit as solution : the flipside of credit is debt.. isnt too much leverage and debt got us here at the 1st place?..

so how can more of the same solve the problem?..

ym
mises.org
March 12, 2009 8:50 AM
SK said...

My guess this is the result of supply and demand. The Banks in The US now want to change the rule so that they can package their garbage at high price again and sell them to the unsuspecting investors.

Their intention is not to save the financial system, they want to save their own skin.

the collapse of the system was not due to the rule. It was due to the non-ethical management and lack of enforcement of the rules
March 12, 2009 10:23 AM
 

Ah Hai

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Register for the Part Time Work Portal

Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Register for the Part Time Work Portal
http://www.easyapps.sg/ptw/home.aspx

Two workers have now regiestered for part time work in this portal. Registration is free. Tell your friends to register. When there are sufficient workers, we will actively approach the employers to offer part time work
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 11:20 PM
 

Ah Hai

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Register for the Part Time Work Portal

Friday, March 13, 2009
Register for the Part Time Work Portal

29 workers have now regiestered for part time work in this portal. Registration is free. Tell your friends to register. When there are sufficient workers, we will actively approach the employers to offer part time work

http://www.easyapps.sg/ptw/home.aspx

Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 4:20 PM
 

Ah Hai

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More time needed to respond to MAS consultation paper

Friday, March 13, 2009
More time needed to respond to MAS consultation paper

Hi Mr Tan
It is encouraging that MAS has submitted a consultation paper on investment in structured products. The review should be studied very carefully and the comments collated and set to MAS.

However, I feel that the April deadline is too short. MAS should give at least 3 months for comments.

I wish to carry out a survey and collate the feedback of the participants. I also feel it would be worthwhile to run a seminar for the public to voice their views.

J
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 5:12 PM
3 comments:

zhummmeng said...

I am glad that MAS has seen the light at the end of this long tunnel now that malpractice and unethical selling have been due to systemic failure. For the first time I am giving credit to MAS for recognising the areas that need to be addressed especially in the advisory process.Currently there is NO advisory process but product pushing and which caused the fiasco and immense damage to the financial well being of consumers.
MAS 's concern about remuneration is long over due. Commission has been the cause of conflict of interest. MAS should adopt the model by the UK FSA to remove commission and introduce fee as a negotiable reward for the advisory work provided. This will eliminate the unethical practice and misrepresentation.
Another safeguard and a very important one is to make need based or need analysis or fact finding compulsory before the recommendation of the product or solution and the adviser to be responsible for reasonable basis of the recommendation.
It is applaudable that MAS sees failure to make reasonable basis recommendation as breach of the FIT AND PROPER REQUIREMENT.Hope that this will be enforced to get rid of incompetent and dishonest insurance agents and to clean up the industry of the fly by night agents who have no interest to give the best to consumers.
Another safeguard is to check and audit the insurance companies for compliance and internal control of the processes.Also to make the CEO liable for breaches of the FAA by the salespeople. The top down approach to regulation will ensure a culture of putting the consumers first as opposed to the current malpractices within the insurance industry where everybody, from CEOs to the salespeople, is thinking of how to squeeze the consumers of their hard earned money.
I wish MAS well and hope that it will live it up to their concerns and not another pulling the wool over our eyes exercise to placate the aggrieved consumers.
MAS, please be seen too to be serious and enforce the regulations to level the playing field and to make Singapore a safe place for consumers.
March 13, 2009 11:15 PM
zhummmeng said...

Another thing should be addressed is misuse of titles by insurance agents.
Today, insurance agents have fanciful titles, from financial consultant to senior or executive or master financial consultants.
The titles misrepresent because the insurance agents don't live up to the titles. They are at best salesmen if not product traffickers.
MAS should stop the FIs from giving unsuitable titles to their salesmen when they are not fit to use the titles.It breaches the FIT AND PROPER criteria.
March 13, 2009 11:28 PM
Anonymous said...

Zhummmeng
In response to your comment that "It is applaudable that MAS sees failure to make reasonable basis recommendation ..."

Supposing the MAS recommendations are the OCCURRENCE of current complaints, which did not receive compensation. What is your view of below:
[a] Does it mean it is okay to mis-sell in the past, but not the future?
Does it mean there were wrongs in the past that the govt does not want to pursue?
[c] Does it mean that the govt is happy to see the past wrong escaped judgement?

Will you still say it is applaudable?

FROM CASHEW NUT
March 14, 2009 10:58 AM
 

Ah Hai

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Management fee for REIT

Friday, March 13, 2009
Management fee for REIT

Dear Mr. Tan,
I am a unit holder of Frasers Commercial Trust. Currently the pricing of the unit to pay for the management fee is based on average daily market price.The daily market price could be 15% of the net asset value of the unit when market for REIT is very low, and the number of units issued to pay for the management fee per year could be more than 6% of total number of unit, this will cause the dilution of the unit.

I suggest that the trust deed be amended. The pricing could be based on the net asset value of the unit instead of average market price when computing the number of units to be issued for Management Fee.

Mr Tan, I hope you can help us to bring this issue to the relevant authority.

HG
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 5:47 PM
 

Ah Hai

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Financial Times: Singapore acts on bank secrecy laws

Saturday, March 14, 2009
Financial Times: Singapore acts on bank secrecy laws

Singapore promised on Friday to relax its strict bank secrecy laws in a sign of the escalating international pressure on tax evasion.

Hong Kong decided to bring its tax transparency up to international standards, and both moves advance the campaign against tax havens.

John Withers, deputy chairman of Step Worldwide, a professional body for wealth advisers, said: “If Singapore is moving in that direction it narrows down the places to which undisclosed money can easily be banked and it puts pressure on Switzerland to follow suit. It is the beginning of the end of bank secrecy.”

The moves came as the US administration endorsed a bill targeting tax havens. Tim Geithner, US Treasury secretary, promised a “much more ambitious effort to deal with offshore tax havens”.

Singapore’s concession is a big shift for a city-state accused of marketing itself as the “ultimate secrecy jurisdiction” by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development at a US Senate hearing in 2007.

Singapore’s finance ministry said it would amend its bank secrecy laws in mid-2009 to take account of the OECD’s standards on exchange of information. “Once the legislative amendments are passed in parliament, Singapore is prepared to negotiate and conclude double taxation agreements that will enable us to provide further assistance for exchange of information.”

It said: “The decision . . . is in keeping with Singapore’s role as a trusted centre for finance and a responsible jurisdiction, with strong and consistent regulatory policies and a firm commitment to the rule of law.”

The promised changes will allow foreign tax authorities to request information about suspected tax evaders, although Singapore said “information fishing” would not be allowed and there would be confidentiality and privacy safeguards, as allowed under OECD rules.

Even so, its announcement will be applauded by other offshore centres that have lost business to Singapore.

Lee Kuan Yew, modern Singapore’s founding father, told bankers the city-state could not escape the pressure being applied to Switzerland. “We must move with the flow,” he said.

Last week, John Tsang, Hong Kong’s financial secretary, announced plans to legislate by mid-year to bring its tax information exchange provisions to international standards. “I believe that the business and professional community generally agrees that Hong Kong should align its arrangements for the exchange of tax information with international standards so that we can enter into such agreements with more economies.”

Singapore and Hong Kong are among 34 secrecy jurisdictions listed in the anti-tax haven bills introduced in the US Congress this week.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 2:58 AM
1 comments:

Anonymous said...

Money laundering is a big problem.To ensure that Singapore is not seen as safe haven she must act and get the trust of the international communities.
March 14, 2009 11:12 AM
 

Ah Hai

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Flaw in MAS Fast Track Process

Saturday, March 14, 2009
Flaw in MAS Fast Track Process
Dear Mr. Tan,

I came across this paragraph in the Q&A issued by MAS regarding the Fast-Track process:

"Under the fast tract process, the FI is required to help me prepare a written statement, taking guidance from a checklist of questions (which incorporates inputs from FIDReC. Similarly, the representative/RM who sold me the product is also required to give a written statement, again taking guidance from a checklist (incorporating inputs provided to FIDReC).

To me, this fast tract process seems rather odd and does not make much sense. Here is a situation where I am complaining against the FI, and under this fast tract process, the FI is required to help me prepare a written statement .........

Why should the FI in this instance help me. I would have thought that the FI would try make my statement as weak as possible and at the same time make use of my statement to defend their position against my complaint.

JL

REPLY
I agree with your view. I suggest that you bring this point up with MAS.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 3:06 AM
2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear friend,
The complaint handling process is "flawed" from the beginning. See this illustration. "Imagine you are raped. You go to the police. The police tell you to talk in fairness with the rapist. The rapist now have a FAST TRACK complaint handling by asking his brother to lodge the complaint report."

This situation is exactly what you lamented about that "... FI would try to make my statement as weak as possible and ... to defend their position ..."

FROM CASHEW NUT
March 14, 2009 10:47 AM
Anonymous said...

There is a trap. So be careful.
March 14, 2009 11:09 AM
 

Ah Hai

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Voting at General Election

Saturday, March 14, 2009
Voting at General Election

Who will your vote? Survey.

Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 3:32 AM
1 comments:

David said...

MR Tan,

On election matters, ST 14/3/09 mentioned a bit about you.

It also reported that you declined to comment when asked on whether you will be a candidate for the next election.

A good and strategic response!
March 14, 2009 12:06 PM
 

Ah Hai

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MAS Consultatation paper - simple insurance products To MAS

Saturday, March 14, 2009
MAS Consultatation paper - simple insurance products
To MAS

This consultation paper is for regulation on investment products. I suggest that the regulation should make clear that life insurance products that provide only insurance protection (and do not have any saving or investment return) do not require to have any adviser.

This will allow life insurance products, such as term insurance, accident insurance and medical insurance, can be marketed without the involvement of a financial adviser. This will reduce the cost of distributing the simple insurance products.

It also avoids the conflict of interest, where unethical advisers may influence the consumer to buy an unsuitable product that pays a bigger commission to the adviser.

Tan Kin Lian




Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 8:55 AM
1 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes, no brainer and simple products should be allowed to be bought online and without the need for agents to cut down the cost.
Term
PA
medical H&S
travel
car insurance
March 14, 2009 12:51 PM
 

Ah Hai

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Interested in Part Time Work

Saturday, March 14, 2009
Interested in Part Time Work

Dear Sir/Madam:
I’m X, a permanent resident, looking for any part time job (clinic asst, office attendant, call center, packer). A copy of my resume is enclosed for your references. My email address is Y or mobile number Z.

REPLY
Please register in the portal, www.easyapps.sg/ptw

A prospective employer will contact you. As this is just set up, it may take some time before you get a response. Wish you all the best.

To register
Click on Worker Tab, select the postal sector and type of work, click on View (to see other candidates) and then Register.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 10:26 AM
 
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