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MALAYSIA FUCKS SINGAPORE: Price of water sold to Singapore 'ridiculous'; to renegotiate deal

frenchbriefs

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there is a reason why till now Johor is still buying water from Singapore. in current situation, they do nothing buy back at 50 cent, and sell to its citizen at RM3.50.

why would they want to invest in a multimillion dollar infrastructure which cost millions to maintain yearly?

Sell clean water to us and price it at $1.30 per m3?the economics are the same.....if it only cost 2.40 rm to treat the water,they can continue providing their citizens with water at 0.80rm per m3......and they can sell the excess to Singapore at $1.30 per m3 and make 12.60 rm profit per thousand gallon!!!!it's like how PAP squeeze our balls!!!

Not only that having water treatment plant means now the balance of power is in their court.
 

ginfreely

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Malays have compassion. Tats why always got shortchanged by cina. Simple minded, not subtle and cunning like chinaman. Hopefully PH Malays will learnt fast from Dr Tun in how to deal in business with cina

PAP is not stupid. But sinkie citizens are.
Ask dr m to go deal and learn from China first. Until he can succeed to deal with China then PH Malays can learn from him. If not they only learn to pick on easy target and get no where.
 

frenchbriefs

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The grouse by the old fox, is not only that 3sen per thousand GALLONS ( are we still using Imperial Measurement?), or the treated water we sell cheap back to Johor. He is upset by the huge amount of indirect taxation the PAP Government earn from selling the water in Singapore. He wants a share of that profit, by raising the price of water, so that, the Malaysian Government have the share of that pie.

3 sen per thousand GALLONS is a negligible amount even when you add in development, processing, transportation & other costs into the resale of that water to the users in Singapore, the profit margin is huge.

That is the grouse.

Water is a commodity and resource like oil and sugar cane.....and Singapore is a desperate buyer....why should msia settle for a slice of the pie when they can control the whole pie?why should msia give up control of the supply of water while Singapore makes money hand over fist with it?

Because some stupid contract said so?if a 100 year contract demands Russia to sell her gas to SG at 3 rubles a cubic meter or Brunei to sell all her oil to sg at $3 a barrel essentially for nothing.....wtf would do u think they would do?I'm surprised SG has not been carpet bombed by msia yet.commodities should be floated on the market.....u want it u jolly well pay for it....ain't no free lunch from this world or goddam SG ever.
 

winnipegjets

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Malaysia PM is correct. We should reflect the true price.
Also we should revise the cost of selling process water back to them.
50 (12 cents) sens is ridiculous. What can we buy with 12 cents now?

Mudland can choose not to buy the treated water if the price is too high. Can sinkapore afford not to buy raw water?
 

winnipegjets

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The point is not this amount or that amount or the amount agreed even before we were born or after we were born. The point, is the Old Fox, is saying they make so much money from selling that 'liquid gold'. They own the supply, they should get a cut of the profit, by charging more at today's rate like 30 sen per 1,000 gallons or even RM 3....converted to Sing Dollars, the seller across the causeway will still make money. All they need to do, is to raise the water tariffs, increase the indirect taxes like waterborne fees, conservation fees etc..they will still make a profit, for they pay in Ringgit & sell in SINGAPORE DOLLARS.

A share of the kuih Lapis is what the old fox wants...for they have been making so much, with that 'layered' costs.

When Mudland threatened to tear up the agreement, the PAP declare that act would be interpreted as war. Are we ready to fight a war with Mudland if Mahathir decides to stop selling water to sinkapore?
 
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winnipegjets

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Whoever signed that agreement must be an idiot,or a benevolent idiot......didn't they account for inflation over the next hundred years?if 3 sen was nothing back in 1965......with 3 to 1 rm exchange rate today.....3 sen is now less than nothing.....we are stealing msia resources.

Even PAP is not that stupid by hiking transport,electric,water utilities and parking fees every year.

I demand msia demand for reparations and proper valuation of water sold to Singapore over the last 50 years....should be worth at least 50 billion by now.

That time, sinkapore and Mudland were good friends ; the leaders were buddies. Over the time, the PAP became Jewish in character ...Mudlanders cannot tahan lah. Now, it is strictly business ...no guanxi involved. View contract on strictly business terms, it is ridiculous.
Prepare for war if the PAP has its way.
 

winnipegjets

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there is a reason why till now Johor is still buying water from Singapore. in current situation, they do nothing buy back at 50 cent, and sell to its citizen at RM3.50.

why would they want to invest in a multimillion dollar infrastructure which cost millions to maintain yearly?

Simplistic thinking.
 

frenchbriefs

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When Mudland threatened to tie up the agreement, the PAP declare that act would be interpreted as war. Are we ready to fight a war with Mudland if Mahathir decides to stop selling water to sinkapore?

When saudi Arabia declare oil sanctions in US in the 1970s was that an act of war?tell this old fart to stop sniffing his butt with his finger.

If sg ever goes to war,Malaysia and friends can simply play a war of attrition,build a wall of Jericho around us and blockade our seas and starve us out like Palestine.in less than 3 years population of sg will be less than that of Gaza strip.
 

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https://mothership.sg/2018/06/mahatir-water-agreement-singapore/
 

winnipegjets

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Singapore Ambassador: Mahathir is raising water issue as diversionary tactic for cancelling HSR project


Here we go again.

The good doctor knows full well that the price of water was set by an international agreement under the terms of which Malaysia also buys treated water from Singapore at a low price, and buys considerably more than it is entitled to buy under the terms of the agreement. Why should it do that unless it is getting a good deal?


We have gone through this umpteen times when he was last PM. He knows we are not going to change our position.


The reason is simple: if we allow Malaysia to change the terms of solemn international agreements anytime the terms of the agreement become inconvenient to them, where will it end?

More at https://tinyurI.com/y7jhvjg6

Sinkapore will lose if it goes to arbitration; that's why sinkapore threatens war if this agreement is abrogated.
 

virus

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Malaysia PM is correct. We should reflect the true price.
Also we should revise the cost of selling process water back to them.
50 (12 cents) sens is ridiculous. What can we buy with 12 cents now?

Yes just like the celery of ministers most if not all their true worth 50cts only, million $ pay is ridiculous
 

ginfreely

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That time, sinkapore and Mudland were good friends ; the leaders were buddies. Over the time, the PAP became Jewish in character ...Mudlanders cannot tahan lah. Now, it is strictly business ...no guanxi involved. View contract on strictly business terms, it is ridiculous.
Prepare for war if the PAP has its way.
That time both are same same but one grew much richer than the other is more like the reason lah. It’s not just the government, Malaysians hate Singaporeans. Lots of jealousy even if we say nothing they call you proud. You think only their AG call Spore kiasu land? What he said is only a reflection of the people’s behavior on the ground and true thinking which they don’t tell you when they are studying or working in Spore. Of course they also don’t show it when selling things to Singaporeans in JB but any shit happens only you see their true colors.
 

ginfreely

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That time both are same same but one grew much richer than the other is more like the reason lah. It’s not just the government, Malaysians hate Singaporeans. Lots of jealousy even if we say nothing they call you proud. You think only their AG call Spore kiasu land? What he said is only a reflection of the people’s behavior on the ground and true thinking which they don’t tell you when they are studying or working in Spore. Of course they also don’t show it when selling things to Singaporeans in JB but any shit happens only you see their true colors.

This is their true colours that you will see whenever shit happens.


https://www.google.com.sg/amp/stomp.straitstimes.com/singapore-seen/jb-carpark-full-of-slippery-oil-fields-4-spore-motorcycles-skid-within-30-min?amp


Even more atrocious, said Mr Liu, the employee offered no assistance and even hurled insults at the fallen victims.


He said: "While we were asking for help, he actually told us, 'You guys can’t see for yourself? If you rode slower, you wouldn't have fallen. I didn’t fall because I drive a car.'


"We were all taken aback by his comments. It really made us angry."


Mr Cai added: "We are the victims here, and it’s already bad enough that we suffered injuries. Not only did he offer no help at all, but he actually talked down to us like this.


"This is just ridiculous."
 

vamjok

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Sell clean water to us and price it at $1.30 per m3?the economics are the same.....if it only cost 2.40 rm to treat the water,they can continue providing their citizens with water at 0.80rm per m3......and they can sell the excess to Singapore at $1.30 per m3 and make 12.60 rm profit per thousand gallon!!!!it's like how PAP squeeze our balls!!!

Not only that having water treatment plant means now the balance of power is in their court.

will never happen. you simply do not understand the mentality of the m&d. firstly the m&d are simply too lazy. besides what is happening now is that all they just have to shake leg and money will flow into their pocket for doing nothing. why will they want to change it? who in the right mind will want to change it
 

vamjok

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sinkie water is very acidic. measured with ph strips off taps in several locations and posted the proof on another thread. ph of 5.5. must be heavily cholrinated.

the coke you drink is easily 2.5.

pH 5 to 8 is pretty common physiological condition FYI. there is something call buffering in our system. so seriously all these pH of the water etc will affect you is nonsense.
 
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