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May I ask, even if you apply for mm2h, if you want to go in and out Malaysia everyday without passport chop, you still need to apply for MACS, izzit? Without MACS, we couldn’t work in Sg and stay in JB?
Hello, can help me clarify this? So with mm2h, we still have our passport chopped when going back to SG, am I right?
 

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When one Nation like China does not take over the running of a Nation, but strip Resources rich Nation like Malaysia to bare bones, which Sri Lanka is having now. That will be disastrous. They won't use force to take over Malaysia ( which is not advisable and stupid). They won't even run the Nation at all. All they want is all the good things from Malaysia but give rock bottom prices to the producer Nation for their resources. It the kind of Colonial mentality they have now. All they need is to park a few warship near Straits Of Malacca using Malacca. Singapore will be all but OVER. The process will be slow and very very painful for common people.

China will used debt to bring the Nation down to it's knees and do China's bidding.

Imagine they price everything out of market and sell it to Singapore. What will happen to Singapore ? If they decide to work behind close door and stop the water supply to Singapore. What will happened to Singapore ? These things can happened. If they stop the blue collar workers from crossing to Singapore to work, what will happen to Singapore ? Plus all our leaders are so straight talking and full of their own logic.

Now we are dealing with Mahathir only. He is just an old man with his twisted logic and he is harmless. It is only the Straits time of Singapore trying to sway the general Nationalistic feeling towards Malaysian , trying to potray all the negative feeling towards Malaysia right now.
 

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If they stop the blue collar workers from crossing to Singapore to work, what will happen to Singapore?..........Now we are dealing with Mahathir only. He is just an old man with his twisted logic and he is harmless. It is only the Straits time of Singapore trying to sway the general Nationalistic feeling towards Malaysian, trying to portray all the negative feeling towards Malaysia right now.
I'll never worry about Malaysian workers being prevented from working in Singapore by their own government. It will be a big worry for the Johor Sultan if so many of their people will have no jobs in Johor and there are definitely not enough vacancies to employ these people domestically. not to mention the much lower nett wages (due to the exchange rate), if it will ever happen. Besides, these people may even turn against their government as the 1:3 rate is too alluring.

Mahathir is not exactly harmless to Singapore? There's no smoke without fire. From his previous governance, it has proven that he has been and will always be against Singapore's progress vis-a-vis Malaysia's. His deep hatred towards Singapore began when GCT denied his loan during the Asian financial crisis back in 1997/8. His main motive thereafter is to stir negative sentiments on his people towards Singapore, wherever and whenever possible. To bring down Singapore is also 1 of his main objective, but that will be impossible during his lifetime. And most Malaysians being nationalistic, especially the Malaysian Chinese, will listen and believe to every shit he puts against Singapore. Take my 2 Malaysian Chinese neighbors who also believed that the water price being sold to Singapore is overly undervalued. 1 of them even operates a (joint-venture) factory in Tuas. I then asked him how would he feels if the Singapore government will increase his water bill by 100% due to the corresponding increase of water from Johor? He just couldn't answer me. He's being plain stupid right? I told him that he should be more worried about China's "9-Dashed Line" territorial claims in the South China Sea instead because in future, he'll just need to sail 300km north of East Malaysia and he'll be prosecuted for being in China's territory, not to mention all the oil resources and reserves in those areas being "stolen" from Malaysia by China's unscrupulous action.

All opposition parties are the same. They will over commit and promise you the sky and heaven during election campaigns but will never fully commit to them after being voted into the government. The PH government had promised to the rakyat on RM1.50/litre petrol and the total abolishing of all the highway tolls, but are these in reality today? When I put these to my Malaysian Chinese neighbors again, 1 of them just simply shrugged off and said that since the government is in heavy debt now, so these can be pardoned. I mean, definitely the PH government cannot plead innocence now that they don't already know about the 1MDB corruption case as well as the vastly unfair ECRL and pipeline contracts already signed with China, during their election campaigning. I'm 100% sure that even if without all these losses, the total abolishing of all the highway tolls can never be possible because who will then maintain the highways, not to mention the vast compensations to be made to the toll operators. Also, how can RM1.50/litre petrol be a reality today when it will then be cheaper than in Saudi Arabia?

Whatever, Singapore knows very well that we have to eventually be self-sustainable in our water supply because that 2061 expiry date will eventually come. It's just that we probably did not go full steam into building more recycling and desalination plants now because of the expectation that these costs can be reduced with newer technologies in the future. So, why want to build more now and pay exorbitantly when they may be cheaper in the future due to newer and more efficient (with higher yielding) technologies as these are still evolving, just like the battery technologies for EVs?
 
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Hello, can help me clarify this? So with mm2h, we still have our passport chopped when going back to SG, am I right?
MACS is not a permit to let one stay or work in a country.

MACS is a pass to let one scan the passport in the immigration to enter JB without any "chop" or "stamp", whatever name it is..

MM2H is a permit to stay n live in Malaysia depending on the years approved by the Gov.

Hope that helps..
 

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I'll never worry about Malaysian workers being prevented from working in Singapore by their own government. It will be a big worry for the Johor Sultan if so many of their people will have no jobs in Johor and there are definitely not enough vacancies to employ these people domestically. not to mention the much lower nett wages (due to the exchange rate), if it will ever happen. Besides, these people may even turn against their government as the 1:3 rate is too alluring.
One may disagree with what TM is doing, and even the way he goes abt it. If you stand from the viewpoint of a M'sian, you will back him as he is trying to do good M'sian even to the detriment of foreigners. After all, this is the duty of a good and responsible government.
 

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One may disagree with what TM is doing, and even the way he goes abt it. If you stand from the viewpoint of a M'sian, you will back him as he is trying to do good M'sian even to the detriment of foreigners. After all, this is the duty of a good and responsible government.
Of course, when you compare TM and LHL run Government, Singaporean is being sold out for the sake of PAP.
Many die hard PAP fan is asking for more.
 

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One may disagree with what TM is doing, and even the way he goes abt it. If you stand from the viewpoint of a M'sian, you will back him as he is trying to do good M'sian even to the detriment of foreigners. After all, this is the duty of a good and responsible government.
It is still early to judge if what the old man is currently doing is indeed paving the way for Anwar or for his own son. Previously, he had said to rule for a maximum of 2 years, but now he says that if the people will want him to stay on, he will do so. If politicians can be trusted, pigs will fly.
 

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It is still early to judge if what the old man is currently doing is indeed paving the way for Anwar or for his own son. Previously, he had said to rule for a maximum of 2 years, but now he says that if the people will want him to stay on, he will do so. If politicians can be trusted, pigs will fly.
I agree with you that in general, politicians cannot be trusted. But if you were a M'sian, wouldn't you be supportive if he is trying to do good for his own country men as against what has been happening in the past decade? The jury is still out; although it's still a long shot, but if this new govt with the injection of DAP talents manage to swing the country around when the next Sg elections come around, it will be an interesting event to watch.
 

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I agree with you that in general, politicians cannot be trusted. But if you were a M'sian, wouldn't you be supportive if he is trying to do good for his own country men as against what has been happening in the past decade? The jury is still out; although it's still a long shot, but if this new govt with the injection of DAP talents manage to swing the country around when the next Sg elections come around, it will be an interesting event to watch.
What I hate is that this old man is always specifically against Singapore. Does he really need to do that, considering that the people on both sides had been neighbors since history. I'm sure many Singaporeans will have relatives in Malaysia and vice versa. Why does he constantly need to stir unnecessary disputes and disharmony? Just look at how he's creating fear and anxiety to those Sinkies residing in JB now with the termination of MACS. Without MACS and worse still if also without the MM2H, these Sinkies will be at the mercy of their immigration officers on a daily basis as had already happened. Is such a drastic move really necessary? A bloody wicked old man.

What good he had exactly done for Malaysia during his last premiership was quite doubtful. Racial politics and suppressing the minority races are his ace during his term previously. What about his "Mr 10%" nickname? Anyway, the verdict of how will Malaysia eventually evolve during his current term should be in 2 years from now. Frankly, I'm still of the opinion that Anwar will eventually be played out by him. Recalling how he had pulled down the clean and innocent Pak Lah when the latter did not abide to his wants would have sufficed my judgement on this old man.

I've said before, if and only if, the Singapore Opposition Parties will unite and form a coalition party at the next GE, declare during their election rallies that if they are voted into government, the ERP and GST will be abolished, LHL will then be peeing in his pants. He will also be forced to change course if he still wants the PAP to be the government of the day. But, can such a scenario really happen? Until the day the Singapore Oppositions will "talk nicely" to each other, then we can come back to debate on this issue.
 
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I've said before, if and only if, the Singapore Opposition Parties will unite and form a coalition party at the next GE, declare during their election rallies that if they are voted into government, the ERP and GST will be abolished, LHL will then be peeing in his pants. He will also be forced to change course if he still wants the PAP to be the government of the day. But, can such a scenario really happen? Until the day the Singapore Oppositions will "talk nicely" to each other, then we can come back to debate on this issue.
Would it be inconceivable that the next Sg elections yield a minority government? Meaning PAP secures less than 50% of the seats and has to bring in 1 of the opposition party in order to form the government; and therefore will have to fine tune policies going forward.
 

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Lately, the jams at the causeway and Tuas link have gotten worse. I just took a look at Cheskpoint.SG. It reported 100-130 mins and 61-91 mins to enter M'sia from the causeway and Tuas respectively. Seems rather strange that traffic is that heavy on a non working Saturday morning, especially from Tuas. Any speculations or explanations why this is happening?
 

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Lately, the jams at the causeway and Tuas link have gotten worse. I just took a look at Cheskpoint.SG. It reported 100-130 mins and 61-91 mins to enter M'sia from the causeway and Tuas respectively. Seems rather strange that traffic is that heavy on a non working Saturday morning, especially from Tuas. Any speculations or explanations why this is happening?
I've been stuck here at Tuas for 1 hour, still not yet pass SG side... according to app, JB customs looks clear though..
 

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I've been stuck here at Tuas for 1 hour, still not yet pass SG side... according to app, JB customs looks clear though..
Just took a look at Checkpoint.sg again. It's now 15:40. The situation looks just as bad, 75-105 mins & 41-62 mins. The queue seems to be built on the Sg side. But why there are still so many people crossing over o M'sia, given that it's not a school holiday season?
 

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Just took a look at Checkpoint.sg again. It's now 15:40. The situation looks just as bad, 75-105 mins & 41-62 mins. The queue seems to be built on the Sg side. But why there are still so many people crossing over o M'sia, given that it's not a school holiday season?
Yes, build up on SG side. JB clear. Maybe for the durians .. they sure are cheap! In front of Giant BI selling rm10 for 3 durian... very nice. Going back in SG now.. very smooth.
 

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MACS is not a permit to let one stay or work in a country.

MACS is a pass to let one scan the passport in the immigration to enter JB without any "chop" or "stamp", whatever name it is..

MM2H is a permit to stay n live in Malaysia depending on the years approved by the Gov.

Hope that helps..

I asked the jb immigration regarding Macs just now,The officer says Macs is scrapped due to abuse by some.She did not elaborate further.When asked,she said that for those who have property in jb can instead apply for Long Term pass aka Yellow card.She says that the application can be made at or near Setia Tropika.Dont know how credible is the info.....Any input from you guys?
 
No wonder why so many of my friends trying to get a singaporean boyfriend. Marrying a singaporean guy can really help them get PR status and hv a comfortable life in future.
 

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Before GE14, the cost of living on both sides of the causeway was up and up. PH promised to tackle this issue and I guess this was the main reason they were voted in. One can already predict the Sg cost of living in the coming few years based on what's announced and signals sent, e.g. utilities, GST. transport fare etc. It will be interesting to do the study for the next 2 years if you can find the time.
 
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