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Dr Thio Su Mien,Locke,
just a point of clarification...it is Dr Thio Su Mien (Li Ann's mumsy)...and so the curtain is finally drawing and out of the shadows pops out THE Lioness to Josie and her Pussycats...man this saga get's more intriguing and entertaining by the day...professional cat fight...pass me more of the popcorn and coke
Government initiative in operating huge gaming dens must be more sinful than men fucking back side,which is largely biological.
So why you havent get the slightest idea?
Fr a fellow christian.Amen
Finally a decent piece of journalism. Alan John has always been an exception sticking to the principles of journalism.
Thanks for the headsup.
Looks like it all coming out of the woodwork. Notice that the usurpers have no clue why they are been attacked. This is what happens when you become overzealous in a cause that normalcy of conduct becomes a distant factor.
Someone from DBS told me that they were surprised that Josie was interested in civic issues. They know her for her interest in cuisine and arty farty stuff. The belief is that she is merely a pawn. I am trying get a handle on people behind Josie besides the husband, the Thios and Maureen.
An ugly turn of events
Death threat allegedlyreceived by exco member
Zul Othman
[email protected]
THE controversy at the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) has taken a vicious turn, with death threats apparently having been issued to the husband of new president Josie Lau, and to honorary secretary Jenica Chua.
.
At a two-hour press conference last night at the Raffles Town Club — where passions boiled over and revelations came one after the other — Ms Lau described her one-week presidency as nothing short of emotional.
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“So far I have kept a stoic and dignified silence … (but) to date I have only been met with hostility and intimation. My family received death threats and it is now a police case. Each day, I fear for the safety for my children and my family,” she said with passion.
.
Today understands that Ms Chua and Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Allan Chin, received the threat on April 14, and made a police report on the same day.
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“The person who sent the threat said he has joined a jihadist group and ... will find ways to harm my loved ones,” said a visibly upsetMs Chua. “And all I did was join a women’s association. I couldn’t sleep for many nights.”
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Ms Chua also said three days ago, someone had written to her company about her involvement in Aware and asked them to take action against her.
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Ms Lau said she still couldn’t comprehend why their election to Aware’s executive committee at the March 28 annual general meeting “has sparked this sort of irrational fear”.
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“I feel so indignant. All I wanted to do was serve the community and be a member of Aware to push for the cause of women. Do I deserve this a death threat? What has Singapore become?”
.
Ms Lau, who was appointed to the post of president at an exco meeting last week, also claimed that she had been locked out of the organisation’s email system by the secretariat.
.
“I have confronted the secretariat and the person has been fired,” revealed Ms Lau. “All we wanted was to push forward and get going with our work. But they didn’t allow us, instead badgering us all the time.”
.
Also at the press conference was self-described “feminist mentor” Dr Thio Su Mien, who said she was “absolutely outraged” that the new exco had been “ferociously attacked”.
.
The former law dean and her daughter, Nominated MP Thio Li-Ann — who received a death threat last year after opposing a proposal to decriminalise gay sex — are related to Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Chin.
.
Admitting that before theMarch 28 AGM, she had emailed people she knew to point them to “what was happening” at Aware, Dr Thio said she felt the organisation had lost focus amid dwindling membership.
.
“To my horror I found out they wanted to introduce men into a women’s society,” she said. “And to my dismay, Aware seemed to be only interested in lesbianism and the advancement of homosexuality, which is a man’s issue.”
.
Despite this, honorary treasurer Maureen Ong denied allegations that their concerns about Aware’s direction had anything to do with their religious beliefs.
.
“I’m not afraid to say I’m a conservative person. I go to church yes, but that … is personal. I did not go to Aware to push my religious beliefs, I went to Aware because I was concerned (as a parent) with what’s happening.”
.
Members also took issue with what they felt were some one-sided and inaccurate media reports. For instance, said Ms Chua: “At the AGM, none of us talked about our religious beliefs, although there was a lot of talk in the press.”
.
The Straits Times had quoted one old guard as saying that, when asked if she accepted homosexuality, Ms Chua had answered “no”.
.
She said: “We are now getting the audio transcript out. But in no way, in the AGM, did I say anything about homosexuality. No way … I’m very puzzled why the press has picked up this slant, when all I did was join a women’s association.”
Death threat allegedlyreceived by exco member
Zul Othman
[email protected]
THE controversy at the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) has taken a vicious turn, with death threats apparently having been issued to the husband of new president Josie Lau, and to honorary secretary Jenica Chua.
.
At a two-hour press conference last night at the Raffles Town Club — where passions boiled over and revelations came one after the other — Ms Lau described her one-week presidency as nothing short of emotional.
.
“So far I have kept a stoic and dignified silence … (but) to date I have only been met with hostility and intimation. My family received death threats and it is now a police case. Each day, I fear for the safety for my children and my family,” she said with passion.
.
Today understands that Ms Chua and Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Allan Chin, received the threat on April 14, and made a police report on the same day.
.
“The person who sent the threat said he has joined a jihadist group and ... will find ways to harm my loved ones,” said a visibly upsetMs Chua. “And all I did was join a women’s association. I couldn’t sleep for many nights.”
.
Ms Chua also said three days ago, someone had written to her company about her involvement in Aware and asked them to take action against her.
.
Ms Lau said she still couldn’t comprehend why their election to Aware’s executive committee at the March 28 annual general meeting “has sparked this sort of irrational fear”.
.
“I feel so indignant. All I wanted to do was serve the community and be a member of Aware to push for the cause of women. Do I deserve this a death threat? What has Singapore become?”
.
Ms Lau, who was appointed to the post of president at an exco meeting last week, also claimed that she had been locked out of the organisation’s email system by the secretariat.
.
“I have confronted the secretariat and the person has been fired,” revealed Ms Lau. “All we wanted was to push forward and get going with our work. But they didn’t allow us, instead badgering us all the time.”
.
Also at the press conference was self-described “feminist mentor” Dr Thio Su Mien, who said she was “absolutely outraged” that the new exco had been “ferociously attacked”.
.
The former law dean and her daughter, Nominated MP Thio Li-Ann — who received a death threat last year after opposing a proposal to decriminalise gay sex — are related to Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Chin.
.
Admitting that before theMarch 28 AGM, she had emailed people she knew to point them to “what was happening” at Aware, Dr Thio said she felt the organisation had lost focus amid dwindling membership.
.
“To my horror I found out they wanted to introduce men into a women’s society,” she said. “And to my dismay, Aware seemed to be only interested in lesbianism and the advancement of homosexuality, which is a man’s issue.”
.
Despite this, honorary treasurer Maureen Ong denied allegations that their concerns about Aware’s direction had anything to do with their religious beliefs.
.
“I’m not afraid to say I’m a conservative person. I go to church yes, but that … is personal. I did not go to Aware to push my religious beliefs, I went to Aware because I was concerned (as a parent) with what’s happening.”
.
Members also took issue with what they felt were some one-sided and inaccurate media reports. For instance, said Ms Chua: “At the AGM, none of us talked about our religious beliefs, although there was a lot of talk in the press.”
.
The Straits Times had quoted one old guard as saying that, when asked if she accepted homosexuality, Ms Chua had answered “no”.
.
She said: “We are now getting the audio transcript out. But in no way, in the AGM, did I say anything about homosexuality. No way … I’m very puzzled why the press has picked up this slant, when all I did was join a women’s association
Someone from DBS told me that they were surprised that Josie was interested in civic issues. They know her for her interest in cuisine and arty farty stuff. The belief is that she is merely a pawn. I am trying get a handle on people behind Josie besides the husband, the Thios and Maureen.
An ugly turn of events
Death threat allegedlyreceived by exco member
Zul Othman
[email protected]
THE controversy at the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) has taken a vicious turn, with death threats apparently having been issued to the husband of new president Josie Lau, and to honorary secretary Jenica Chua.
.
At a two-hour press conference last night at the Raffles Town Club — where passions boiled over and revelations came one after the other — Ms Lau described her one-week presidency as nothing short of emotional.
.
“So far I have kept a stoic and dignified silence … (but) to date I have only been met with hostility and intimation. My family received death threats and it is now a police case. Each day, I fear for the safety for my children and my family,” she said with passion.
.
Today understands that Ms Chua and Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Allan Chin, received the threat on April 14, and made a police report on the same day.
.
“The person who sent the threat said he has joined a jihadist group and ... will find ways to harm my loved ones,” said a visibly upsetMs Chua. “And all I did was join a women’s association. I couldn’t sleep for many nights.”
.
Ms Chua also said three days ago, someone had written to her company about her involvement in Aware and asked them to take action against her.
.
Ms Lau said she still couldn’t comprehend why their election to Aware’s executive committee at the March 28 annual general meeting “has sparked this sort of irrational fear”.
.
“I feel so indignant. All I wanted to do was serve the community and be a member of Aware to push for the cause of women. Do I deserve this a death threat? What has Singapore become?”
.
Ms Lau, who was appointed to the post of president at an exco meeting last week, also claimed that she had been locked out of the organisation’s email system by the secretariat.
.
“I have confronted the secretariat and the person has been fired,” revealed Ms Lau. “All we wanted was to push forward and get going with our work. But they didn’t allow us, instead badgering us all the time.”
.
Also at the press conference was self-described “feminist mentor” Dr Thio Su Mien, who said she was “absolutely outraged” that the new exco had been “ferociously attacked”.
.
The former law dean and her daughter, Nominated MP Thio Li-Ann — who received a death threat last year after opposing a proposal to decriminalise gay sex — are related to Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Chin.
.
Admitting that before theMarch 28 AGM, she had emailed people she knew to point them to “what was happening” at Aware, Dr Thio said she felt the organisation had lost focus amid dwindling membership.
.
“To my horror I found out they wanted to introduce men into a women’s society,” she said. “And to my dismay, Aware seemed to be only interested in lesbianism and the advancement of homosexuality, which is a man’s issue.”
.
Despite this, honorary treasurer Maureen Ong denied allegations that their concerns about Aware’s direction had anything to do with their religious beliefs.
.
“I’m not afraid to say I’m a conservative person. I go to church yes, but that … is personal. I did not go to Aware to push my religious beliefs, I went to Aware because I was concerned (as a parent) with what’s happening.”
.
Members also took issue with what they felt were some one-sided and inaccurate media reports. For instance, said Ms Chua: “At the AGM, none of us talked about our religious beliefs, although there was a lot of talk in the press.”
.
The Straits Times had quoted one old guard as saying that, when asked if she accepted homosexuality, Ms Chua had answered “no”.
.
She said: “We are now getting the audio transcript out. But in no way, in the AGM, did I say anything about homosexuality. No way … I’m very puzzled why the press has picked up this slant, when all I did was join a women’s association.”
Death threat allegedlyreceived by exco member
Zul Othman
[email protected]
THE controversy at the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) has taken a vicious turn, with death threats apparently having been issued to the husband of new president Josie Lau, and to honorary secretary Jenica Chua.
.
At a two-hour press conference last night at the Raffles Town Club — where passions boiled over and revelations came one after the other — Ms Lau described her one-week presidency as nothing short of emotional.
.
“So far I have kept a stoic and dignified silence … (but) to date I have only been met with hostility and intimation. My family received death threats and it is now a police case. Each day, I fear for the safety for my children and my family,” she said with passion.
.
Today understands that Ms Chua and Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Allan Chin, received the threat on April 14, and made a police report on the same day.
.
“The person who sent the threat said he has joined a jihadist group and ... will find ways to harm my loved ones,” said a visibly upsetMs Chua. “And all I did was join a women’s association. I couldn’t sleep for many nights.”
.
Ms Chua also said three days ago, someone had written to her company about her involvement in Aware and asked them to take action against her.
.
Ms Lau said she still couldn’t comprehend why their election to Aware’s executive committee at the March 28 annual general meeting “has sparked this sort of irrational fear”.
.
“I feel so indignant. All I wanted to do was serve the community and be a member of Aware to push for the cause of women. Do I deserve this a death threat? What has Singapore become?”
.
Ms Lau, who was appointed to the post of president at an exco meeting last week, also claimed that she had been locked out of the organisation’s email system by the secretariat.
.
“I have confronted the secretariat and the person has been fired,” revealed Ms Lau. “All we wanted was to push forward and get going with our work. But they didn’t allow us, instead badgering us all the time.”
.
Also at the press conference was self-described “feminist mentor” Dr Thio Su Mien, who said she was “absolutely outraged” that the new exco had been “ferociously attacked”.
.
The former law dean and her daughter, Nominated MP Thio Li-Ann — who received a death threat last year after opposing a proposal to decriminalise gay sex — are related to Ms Lau’s husband, Dr Chin.
.
Admitting that before theMarch 28 AGM, she had emailed people she knew to point them to “what was happening” at Aware, Dr Thio said she felt the organisation had lost focus amid dwindling membership.
.
“To my horror I found out they wanted to introduce men into a women’s society,” she said. “And to my dismay, Aware seemed to be only interested in lesbianism and the advancement of homosexuality, which is a man’s issue.”
.
Despite this, honorary treasurer Maureen Ong denied allegations that their concerns about Aware’s direction had anything to do with their religious beliefs.
.
“I’m not afraid to say I’m a conservative person. I go to church yes, but that … is personal. I did not go to Aware to push my religious beliefs, I went to Aware because I was concerned (as a parent) with what’s happening.”
.
Members also took issue with what they felt were some one-sided and inaccurate media reports. For instance, said Ms Chua: “At the AGM, none of us talked about our religious beliefs, although there was a lot of talk in the press.”
.
The Straits Times had quoted one old guard as saying that, when asked if she accepted homosexuality, Ms Chua had answered “no”.
.
She said: “We are now getting the audio transcript out. But in no way, in the AGM, did I say anything about homosexuality. No way … I’m very puzzled why the press has picked up this slant, when all I did was join a women’s association
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!
1 clash settled, 1 heats up
Job safe, but future of Aware chief will be known on May 2
Weekend • April 18, 2009
Alicia Wong and Loh Chee Kong
[email protected]
MS JOSIE Lau’s fate as a vice-president at DBS Bank appears settled for now, after a lengthy meeting with her employer on Friday night — but the future of the Association of Women for Action and Research’s (Aware) new president, and her executive committee, will yet be determined on May 2.
The date for an extraordinary general meeting of the women’s advocacy group has finally been set to address the rift between the old guard and the new leadership.
This came even as Ms Lau and her employer were locked in a meeting on Friday from 5pm to past 9pm, to settle their own differences after DBS had publicly rebuked her for going against its wishes to take up the top Aware post.
As of press time, both parties were tight-lipped on the discussions — but Aware vice-president Charlotte Lim told Today that Ms Lau,who heads DBS’ consumer banking group cards and unsecured loans division, had said the situation with her employers was “business as usual”.
The pair met up with some exco members for last-minute drinks at about 10pm, and those present said Ms Lau was “cheerful and relieved” after her meeting.
She was also touched by the “outpouring of support and the well-wishes from colleagues and members of the public”, said Ms Lim.“People were giving her the thumbs-up all the time. So that encouraged her a lot.”
While Ms Lau and DBS appear to have come to an understanding for now, this was far from the case with the opposing groups in Aware, who locked horns in a strong exchange of words on Friday....
This is an interesting turn of event that I have read on ST, finally the puppet master is out, another Thio Christian FUNDAMENTALIST. I am actually surprised that Aware has done so many things without me or any of the public being aware of it. threatened they say? After what they have done, anything can happen. And if this group of people are such schemingly cunning, it is also likely that they come out with this scheme to get public support.
I am not even aware of aware before the Thios device the take over, let alone awaring of their "promotion" for Gay and lesbianism. The Thios have certainly created the awareness of Aware's existence and some of the things that they have done.
But I am really puzzled how come these Thios link everything to Gay and Lesbianism, unless they have strong inclination towards it while try to shield this from others. Does letting men vote at AGM constitute to promotion of Gay? I recall that only a handful of people attended the AGM and letting men vote is simply aim to increase member's involvement. The most laughable part is that this new group even criticises the old group of creating sexual awareness by conducting sexual education.
Well, I guess by now no organization is safe from these Puu bohs. You have to make sure that your direction is inline with them or other wise their members will all join the organization and then vote the existing exco out. Associations linking with religion other than Christians would definitely be their first choice because their objectives are against the teachings of Christian fundamentalists. Beware!!!!
I am not even aware of aware before the Thios device the take over, let alone awaring of their "promotion" for Gay and lesbianism. The Thios have certainly created the awareness of Aware's existence and some of the things that they have done.
But I am really puzzled how come these Thios link everything to Gay and Lesbianism, unless they have strong inclination towards it while try to shield this from others. Does letting men vote at AGM constitute to promotion of Gay? I recall that only a handful of people attended the AGM and letting men vote is simply aim to increase member's involvement. The most laughable part is that this new group even criticises the old group of creating sexual awareness by conducting sexual education.
Well, I guess by now no organization is safe from these Puu bohs. You have to make sure that your direction is inline with them or other wise their members will all join the organization and then vote the existing exco out. Associations linking with religion other than Christians would definitely be their first choice because their objectives are against the teachings of Christian fundamentalists. Beware!!!!
“I feel so indignant. All I wanted to do was serve the community and be a member of Aware to push for the cause of women. Do I deserve this a death threat? What has Singapore become?”
So in order to serve, you scheme and kick oout the old guard,,, what has Singapore beclome? vicious as you?
You wanted to serve according to your or your religion beliefs, what if others do the same to you?
So in order to serve, you scheme and kick oout the old guard,,, what has Singapore beclome? vicious as you?
You wanted to serve according to your or your religion beliefs, what if others do the same to you?
They should dissolve this organisation and get back to their daily chores.
Alternatively, the old guard band together and start another NGO with their preffered agenda and the the new guard can can revamped AWARE.
And as if on universal cue, they reverted to the oldest trick in the book - self-victimization and demonizing the attackers. Sadly, this trick works all too well.
They gritted their teeth and sat it out, waiting for the public to slowly broil from reasonable enquiries to unreasonable frustration. Then they fought back, with them all playing the 'emotional' trump card.
Eleanor Roosevelt said this, "A woman is like a tea bag. You never know how strong she is until she gets into hot water." If these women are going to lead, then I expect them to behave like leaders - not some crybabies.
They did not just "join a women's association", they joined THE leading women's rights advocacy group. Just by that utterance alone, you know they intend to turn it into just a regular association for women, focusing on 'soft issues', skirting the real topics that needs to be dealt with.
Real nasty pieces of work, these ladies. Unfortunately, at this stage in time, I think the EOGM is still slanted in Josie & Co's favor. The old guard is denied publicity, the spotlight is all turned to the new team, and those in the media will know this line - any publicity, good or bad, is still publicity. And whoever has the most publicity wins The Mob over.
The old guard should focus on the core questions at the EOGM. They might not win the majority of the votes (it could be swamped with crucifix necklaces), but they sure can damage the credibility of AWARE permanently with some tough interrogation.
They gritted their teeth and sat it out, waiting for the public to slowly broil from reasonable enquiries to unreasonable frustration. Then they fought back, with them all playing the 'emotional' trump card.
Eleanor Roosevelt said this, "A woman is like a tea bag. You never know how strong she is until she gets into hot water." If these women are going to lead, then I expect them to behave like leaders - not some crybabies.
They did not just "join a women's association", they joined THE leading women's rights advocacy group. Just by that utterance alone, you know they intend to turn it into just a regular association for women, focusing on 'soft issues', skirting the real topics that needs to be dealt with.
Real nasty pieces of work, these ladies. Unfortunately, at this stage in time, I think the EOGM is still slanted in Josie & Co's favor. The old guard is denied publicity, the spotlight is all turned to the new team, and those in the media will know this line - any publicity, good or bad, is still publicity. And whoever has the most publicity wins The Mob over.
The old guard should focus on the core questions at the EOGM. They might not win the majority of the votes (it could be swamped with crucifix necklaces), but they sure can damage the credibility of AWARE permanently with some tough interrogation.
Locke,
just a point of clarification...it is Dr Thio Su Mien (Li Ann's mumsy)...and so the curtain is finally drawing and out of the shadows pops out THE Lioness to Josie and her Pussycats
you sure you did not receive that e-mail from her before this?
Courage or kenna force?
From her leaked email:
"Please ask your like-minded friends to join Aware so that you can give the vote to those who wish to be an agent of change for the Lord. They could also contribute to the activities of the oprganization as there is much to be done for women and families in this dowturn of the economy. Unfortunately, I cannot surface but shall be assisting in the background . I attach the Aware membership application form for your use. The Aware application form has a section as to who ( if any) told you about Aware. You can just leave it blank"
The old guard could easily start a new ngo but i think it has come to a point where the principles are stake.
Anyway, women are stubborn yea?
Cat fight to the end
Like the Singapore GRC system, 1 ethnic minority candidate is compulsory to ensure that the minority groups making up 25% of the population are adequately represented.
If the AWARE is full of Christians (for the lord, for the lord, for the lord..), how will women of other race and religion be served?
If the AWARE is full of Christians (for the lord, for the lord, for the lord..), how will women of other race and religion be served?
You know a lot about lesbianism issit?:oIo:
haha... you got a point.
One party rule is wrong. Old and new aware needs to form a coalition. Anwar-style
Yes. I like women only. Men who like women are lesbians. Lesbian is means like women. You trying to tell me you don't like women?
Yes. I like women only. Men who like women are lesbians. Lesbian is means like women. You trying to tell me you don't like women?
Oh I like women. But since you had attracted my attention by giving me an infraction for something that does not concern you, I have developed an instant erection whenever I see you post. So fuck you in the arse!
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