is LHL trying to come up with 'obamacare'?

[god_zeus]

not sure why obamacare is a disaster
many americans hate it

but LHL also want to force something like obamacare down our throat
better beware



http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=288575
A man who attempted to sign up for Obamacare online was told that a fine of over $4,000 dollars a year for refusing to take out mandatory health insurance could be taken directly from his bank account, and that his drivers license would be suspended and a federal tax lien placed against his home, according to an entry on the HealthCare.gov Facebook page.

Will Sheehan claims that when he tried to sign up for Obamacare and then register to opt out, he received an ominous warning. Sheehan’s full Facebook post reads;

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.

 

[Qantas]

not sure why obamacare is a disaster
many americans hate it

but LHL also want to force something like obamacare down our throat
better beware


Thats why he wants to start MedishieldLIFE.

 

[Pioneer]

but LHL also want to force something like obamacare down our throat
better beware

Then not enough WP MPs to shut down the government :(

 

[bryanlim1972]

not sure why obamacare is a disaster
many americans hate it

but LHL also want to force something like obamacare down our throat
better beware
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must be one of the dumbest lines i've read in this forum for this year, spoken like a true lemming.

 

[wMulew]

dumbfuck opposition supporting retards is complaining about something they wanted and something which opposition parties are fighting for. PAP have been trying to resist such stupid ideas for decades now U are accusing them are trying to implement it?

 

[johnny333]

People are forgetting that the PAP has been calling all the shots in Spore. This has been going on for 50+ years because Sporeans "trusted" them. I hear so much about a so called "social contract" that Sporeans are suppose to have with the PAP.

Obviously LKY & son has conveniently ignored this. Spore is after all run like a corporation where priority is $$$ & not taking care of the old & sick.
It's now up to the 60% to decide whether they want a new management.

 

[Sinkie]

It's different......I hope.

Obamacare and Medishield Life are good for one thing only. It covers all parties and pre-existing conditions, which means all those insurance companies trying to hoodwink insurers and not paying because of exclusions and pre-existing conditions should now be made illegal.

Many states in USA have pre-existing conditions and exclusions as against the law, even before Obamacare was ever mooted.

However, USA has insurance of workers covered by companies and it is the companies now that are complaining.....besides, the young also complain because insurance premiums would go up. The doctors also complain, because they're part of the insurance companies lackeys, blood-suckers. Now, they can't suck any blood, so they complain.

Obama is adament about Obamacare because his mother suffered from cancer and she cannot get insurance coverage and she died because she can't pay the high cost of cancer treatment. Now, Obama is adamant to change all that.

The same situation for Singapore. High cost of healthcare coupled by the fact that people with pre-existing conditions are excluded from insurance coverage meant that many cannot afford themselves to be treated.

Hopefully the Medishield Life is not a scam. If it is not and this fucker Gan Kim Yong is serious about it, Medishield Life is the only right thing the PAP government has done and Lee Kuan Yew can go in peace that he had at least done one good thing for the people of Singapore, especially those older folks who had worked hard for the country.

 

[TopSage]

There is a lot of misinformation about Obamacare on the Internet mainly to discredit the scheme. The scheme has generous subsidy for those who cannot afford healthcare insurance. The penalty for not having insurance is $95 which people say is too low for the die-hards who simply refuse to buy insurance.

Why is a "cover everyone" policy needed?

About 15-20% of Singaporeans have no insurance. Preventive care is neglected. Medical cost is escalating. "Can die but cannot afford to get sick" is a reality for an increasing number of people. As a developed country, we are one of 2 that does not have universal healthcare (either cover everyone with insurance or make it 100% free or nearly free).

With an ageing population, can we afford to keep going this way? People get sick, no insurance, end up owe the hospital thousands or tens of thousands. The sick people will be heavily burdened especially the poorer class without insurance and the many with pre-existing conditions...we also leave out the oldest people above 90 which is growing in number.

If PAP make medical free, taxes have to go up or defense spending has to be cut.

So the alternative is insurance or insurance + subsidy. Now to bring in 20% uninsured people into the scheme + the people who had pre-existing conditions and the above 90 ... this means the insurance scheme on average have to payout more because these people have higher risk. So to keep the scheme viable, premiums must go up...it is only logical.

Why must it be compulsory? If not compulsory, people will wait until they get sick to buy insurance because insurance company now cannot reject people with pre-existing conditions.

What govt can do to mitigate the increase premiums can be found in Obamacare - including subsidy for poor, limit to how much insurance companies can earn etc.

If the PAP does nothing, our 3M system will breakdown. Many uninsured people falling sick = sell house, wipe out savings, etc before they can get Medifund. Eventually after impoverishing the sick person's family, tax payers foot the bill. There is just too much pain.

Clearly, from all my postings I'm not a PAP supporter ...I have more harsh words than praises for them. However, after much thought on our healthcare system, I strongly support an universal plan like Medishield Life. Howver, the devil is in the details. I definitely don't support doing nothing as keeping things as it is.