Historians have already discarded the hadiths and sunnahs as fakes. Cannot be verified. So no point using it.
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How Jesus ended up as God
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Quran is very clear on this. You will be judged by your deeds alone. And not by the number of senseless rituals you perform.Good tat u believe life after death. But when u are "alive" after ur death, tat moment u will be judged. Cos u will only be resurrected once.By then its too late to accept the word of God....
i agreeImagine if there were no religion, we could all be spending our time pursuing fruitful activities like exercising, hanging out with friends, screwing our wife/gf/fb, indulging in our hobbies, instead of posting lines of text on a bogus and silly topic.
all religions are man made
science will eventually reveal that god or gods are fake
I doubt it. We're already in the 21st century, made foray into space and into the deepest oceans, seen the advancement of medical science and so on, and yet there are many people hanging onto ancient superstitious beliefs. I guess it gives them hope and comfort, hence they choose to believe there is a powerful and loving father figure waiting for them on the other side.
Why should I believe in God?
Answer: Belief in God is the most basic of all human considerations. Acknowledgement of one’s Creator is foundational to learning any more about Him. Without believing in God, it is impossible to please Him or even come to Him (Hebrews 11:6). People are surrounded with proof of God’s existence, and it is only through the hardening of sin that men reject that proof (Romans 1:18–23). It is foolish to disbelieve in God (Psalm 14:1).
There are two choices in life. First, we have the choice to trust in man’s limited reason. Man’s reason has produced various philosophies, the many world religions and “isms,” different cults, and other ideas and worldviews. A key characteristic of man’s reason is that it does not last, for man himself is not lasting. It is also limited by man’s finite knowledge; we are not as wise as we think we are (1 Corinthians 1:20). Man’s reason starts with himself and ends with himself. Man lives in Time’s box with no way out. Man is born, grows to maturity, makes his impact on the world, and eventually dies. That is it for him, naturally speaking. The choice to live by reason leaves one weighed in the balance and found wanting. If a person objectively thinks about such a lifestyle, it should cause him to consider the second choice.
The second choice we have is to accept God’s revelation in the Bible. To “lean not on your own understanding” (Proverbs 3:5). Of course, to accept that the Bible is from God, one must acknowledge God. Belief in the God of the Bible does not negate the use of reason; rather, it is when we seek God that He opens our eyes (Psalm 119:18), enlightens our understanding (Ephesians 1:18), and grants us wisdom (Proverbs 8).
Belief in God is bolstered by the evidence of God’s existence that is readily available. All creation bears silent witness to the fact of a Creator (Psalm 19:1–4). God’s book, the Bible, establishes its own validity and historical accuracy. For example, consider one Old Testament prophecy concerning Christ’s first coming. Micah 5:2 states that Christ would be born in Bethlehem of Judea. Micah gave his prophecy around 700 BC. Where was Christ born seven centuries later? He was born in Bethlehem of Judea, just as Micah had predicted (Luke 2:1–20; Matthew 2:1–12).
Peter Stoner, in Science Speaks (p. 100–107), has shown that coincidence in prophetic Scripture is ruled out by the science of probability. By using the laws of probability in reference to eight prophecies concerning Christ, Stoner found that the chance that any man would fulfill all eight prophecies is 1 in 10 to the 17th power. That would be 1 chance in 100,000,000,000,000,000. And that is only considering eight prophecies; Jesus fulfilled many more. There is no doubt that the Bible’s accuracy and reliability are substantiated by prophecy.
Reading the Bible, we discover that God is eternal, holy, personal, gracious, and loving. God has broken open Time’s box through the Incarnation of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. God’s loving action does not impinge on man’s reason but provides enlightenment for man’s reason so he can begin to understand that he needs forgiveness and eternal life through the Son of God.
Sure, one can reject the God of the Bible, and many do. Men can reject what Jesus Christ has done for them. To reject Christ is to reject God (John 10:30). What will it be for you? Will you live by man’s limited, faulty reason? Or will you acknowledge your Creator and accept God’s revelation in the Bible? “Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones” (Proverbs 3:7–8).
Recommended Resource: I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist by Norm Geisler and Frank Turek
You again!?Why should I believe in God?
Question: "Why should I believe in God?"
Answer: Belief in God is the most basic of all human considerations. Acknowledgement of one’s Creator is foundational to learning any more about Him. Without believing in God, it is impossible to please Him or even come to Him (Hebrews 11:6). People are surrounded with proof of God’s existence, and it is only through the hardening of sin that men reject that proof (Romans 1:18–23). It is foolish to disbelieve in God (Psalm 14:1).
There are two choices in life. First, we have the choice to trust in man’s limited reason. Man’s reason has produced various philosophies, the many world religions and “isms,” different cults, and other ideas and worldviews. A key characteristic of man’s reason is that it does not last, for man himself is not lasting. It is also limited by man’s finite knowledge; we are not as wise as we think we are (1 Corinthians 1:20). Man’s reason starts with himself and ends with himself. Man lives in Time’s box with no way out. Man is born, grows to maturity, makes his impact on the world, and eventually dies. That is it for him, naturally speaking. The choice to live by reason leaves one weighed in the balance and found wanting. If a person objectively thinks about such a lifestyle, it should cause him to consider the second choice.
The second choice we have is to accept God’s revelation in the Bible. To “lean not on your own understanding” (Proverbs 3:5). Of course, to accept that the Bible is from God, one must acknowledge God. Belief in the God of the Bible does not negate the use of reason; rather, it is when we seek God that He opens our eyes (Psalm 119:18), enlightens our understanding (Ephesians 1:18), and grants us wisdom (Proverbs 8).
Belief in God is bolstered by the evidence of God’s existence that is readily available. All creation bears silent witness to the fact of a Creator (Psalm 19:1–4). God’s book, the Bible, establishes its own validity and historical accuracy. For example, consider one Old Testament prophecy concerning Christ’s first coming. Micah 5:2 states that Christ would be born in Bethlehem of Judea. Micah gave his prophecy around 700 BC. Where was Christ born seven centuries later? He was born in Bethlehem of Judea, just as Micah had predicted (Luke 2:1–20; Matthew 2:1–12).
Peter Stoner, in Science Speaks (p. 100–107), has shown that coincidence in prophetic Scripture is ruled out by the science of probability. By using the laws of probability in reference to eight prophecies concerning Christ, Stoner found that the chance that any man would fulfill all eight prophecies is 1 in 10 to the 17th power. That would be 1 chance in 100,000,000,000,000,000. And that is only considering eight prophecies; Jesus fulfilled many more. There is no doubt that the Bible’s accuracy and reliability are substantiated by prophecy.
Reading the Bible, we discover that God is eternal, holy, personal, gracious, and loving. God has broken open Time’s box through the Incarnation of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. God’s loving action does not impinge on man’s reason but provides enlightenment for man’s reason so he can begin to understand that he needs forgiveness and eternal life through the Son of God.
Sure, one can reject the God of the Bible, and many do. Men can reject what Jesus Christ has done for them. To reject Christ is to reject God (John 10:30). What will it be for you? Will you live by man’s limited, faulty reason? Or will you acknowledge your Creator and accept God’s revelation in the Bible? “Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones” (Proverbs 3:7–8).
Recommended Resource: I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist by Norm Geisler and Frank Turek
Yes, yes already said my piece with you. Perhaps you missed this verse "Blessed are those who accept the choices of others and not persist to make them read walls of text, especially when they are old and have bad eyesight"Priesthood introduces the subtle concept of caste. Somebody by position alone is of a higher level.
No such thing exists in islam. Everyone is equal except for their deeds and piety.
无事不登三宝殿 we man is like this, in good time happy like Larry and forget to go temple to pray to God.
One day we will get into shits thrown problem at you, then we will think of seeking divine intervention for help and go to the temple.
The choice is yours.... As Psalm 118:8 says it's better to trust in God than in confident of man.
The Bible book contained 1188 verses. And smack right in the middle of these verses the centre verse is Psalm 118:8.
Go figure out yrslf.
Hope this help.
One day we will get into shits thrown problem at you, then we will think of seeking divine intervention for help and go to the temple.
The choice is yours.... As Psalm 118:8 says it's better to trust in God than in confident of man.
The Bible book contained 1188 verses. And smack right in the middle of these verses the centre verse is Psalm 118:8.
Go figure out yrslf.
Hope this help.
I think we will be quarelling about ideology and politics instead.Imagine if there were no religion, we could all be spending our time pursuing fruitful activities like exercising, hanging out with friends, screwing our wife/gf/fb, indulging in our hobbies, instead of posting lines of text on a bogus and silly topic.
Definitely not u of course. U dont even know Prophet Muhammad pbuh is mentioned in the Quran.
I dont even consider u a Muslim. And u will also be judged accordingly if u do not follow the teaching and sunnah of our last and final Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Hey, wait a minute. U are not a Muslim.
In the Quran, God has made the scientific discoveries of the modern age a way of finding Him, rather than a way of losing Him. Quran mentioned Cosmology (the big bang, expansion of the Universe, End of the Universe, Extraterrestrial life), Biology (Evolution, Embryology) , Geology (what lies beneath Mountains, Mountains and Earthquakes, Tectonic plates) etc etc. Only recently scientist discovered it. Aint it a miracle? One day Scientist may even discover soul, heaven and hell....Allah know best.
How about dinosaurs, any mention ?In the Quran, God has made the scientific discoveries of the modern age a way of finding Him, rather than a way of losing Him. Quran mentioned Cosmology (the big bang, expansion of the Universe, End of the Universe, Extraterrestrial life), Biology (Evolution, Embryology) , Geology (what lies beneath Mountains, Mountains and Earthquakes, Tectonic plates) etc etc. Only recently scientist discovered it. Aint it a miracle? One day Scientist may even discover soul, heaven and hell....Allah know best.
Divine intervention? Is there such a thing?
Our time is better spent expounding the different types of women, the different shapes and types of titties and vaginas.
They believe in magic when quran says to look a5 facts and data. To show proof. But all they keep harping on is this sunnahs and hadiths. We don't even know aho the authors are. Its sll based on hearsay. And these sunnah and hadith is the foundation of the religion of islam even if historians says most of the writings are made up.
Over beer and satay. Best to view women all sweaty is near parks drinking beer and watching women jog.
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