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The deployment of at least 50,000 People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh and in the occupied Aksai Chin region, apart from heavy weaponry and missiles, is indicative of the Russian influence not only on Chinese military equipment, but also in war planning and execution, according to a top IndianAir Force (IAF) officer.

The officer, who dissected the Chinese positioning and war plan in a worst-case scenario for HT on condition of anonymity, said that a Chinese offensive, if and when it comes, is likely to involve troops moving forward under a barrage of artillery and rocket fire, with surface-to-air missile batteries giving protection to their weapon systems from IAF attacks. “This is the old Soviet way of fighting a war, with troops based in depth areas (in this case, Hotan airbase 320km from the Line of Actual Control) providing the air-defence cover,” the officer added.

While several strategic experts believe that an
that any future war will be fought with stand-off weapons used to force Indian fighters to remain on ground, the IAF’s “disperse, absorb, recoup and retaliate” strategy has been war-gamed enough times (including in the Gagan Shakti 2018 exercise) to repel China’s plans, the officer said. He explained that the reaction of the IAF to any offensive is faster than that of the PLA Air Force due to the distance of the LAC from air bases such as Hotan, Lhasa or Kashgar, and that PLA’s surface-to-air missile sites become vulnerable to the stand-off air-to-ground missiles of Indian fighters. “Once air-defence missile systems are knocked out, the amassed artillery, rockets and troop concentrations become exposed on the Tibetan desert, where there is no natural camouflage cover for these systems,” the officer said.

The officer cited above further said that while the PLA has packed depth areas with troops, any aggression on mountainous terrain will not be easy against a dug-in adversary like the Indian Army in Ladakh. The 1999 Kargil war taught the Indian army that when the aggressor is concentrate
and exposed, it becomes vulnerable to air interdiction. This makes the effort to hit Indian troops, who are dominating strategic heights both in the north and south of Pangong Tso, harder in the winter months. Even a Chinese stand-off weapon, given its circular error of probability (a measure of precision) may find it hard to target dug-in troops sitting on mountaintops in sub-polar temperatures, and in the absence of cover from attacking forces in the cold Ladakh desert and the Soda Plains, he added.
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How will China’s offensive play out in Ladakh? IAF war games has a answerIn tensions that began in early May, Indian and Chinese troops have come face-to-face at multiple points along the LAC.

Updated: Sep 24, 2020 05:22 IST

By Shishir Gupta, Hindustan Times New Delhi



Last week, defence minister Rajnath Singh told lawmakers in Parliament that no force in the world can stop the Indian Army from patrolling the country’s borders in the Ladakh sector (Dassault Aviation)

The deployment of at least 50,000 People’s Liberation Army (PLA) troops along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh and in the occupied Aksai Chin region, apart from heavy weaponry and missiles, is indicative of the Russian influence not only on Chinese military equipment, but also in war planning and execution, according to a top Indian Air Force (IAF) officer.

The officer, who dissected the Chinese positioning and war plan in a worst-case scenario for HT on condition of anonymity, said that a Chinese offensive, if and when it comes, is likely to involve troops moving forward under a barrage of artillery and rocket fire, with surface-to-air missile batteries giving protection to their weapon systems from IAF attacks. “This is the old Soviet way of fighting a war, with troops based in depth areas (in this case, Hotan airbase 320km from the Line of Actual Control) providing the air-defence cover,” the officer added.

While several strategic experts believe that any future war will be fought with stand-off weapons used to force Indian fighters to remain on ground, the IAF’s “disperse, absorb, recoup and retaliate” strategy has been war-gamed enough times (including in the Gagan Shakti 2018 exercise) to repel China’s plans, the officer said. He explained that the reaction of the IAF to any offensive is faster than that of the PLA Air Force due to the distance of the LAC from air bases such as Hotan, Lhasa or Kashgar, and that PLA’s surface-to-air missile sites become vulnerable to the stand-off air-to-ground missiles of Indian fighters. “Once air-defence missile systems are knocked out, the amassed artillery, rockets and troop concentrations become exposed on the Tibetan desert, where there is no natural camouflage cover for these systems,” the officer said.

The officer cited above further said that while the PLA has packed depth areas with troops, any aggression on mountainous terrain will not be easy against a dug-in adversary like the Indian Army in Ladakh. The 1999 Kargil war taught the Indian army that when the aggressor is concentrated and exposed, it becomes vulnerable to air interdiction. This makes the effort to hit Indian troops, who are dominating strategic heights both in the north and south of Pangong Tso, harder in the winter months. Even a Chinese stand-off weapon, given its circular error of probability (a measure of precision) may find it hard to target dug-in troops sitting on mountaintops in sub-polar temperatures, and in the absence of cover from attacking forces in the cold Ladakh desert and the Soda Plains, he added.



The officer was confident that Indian forces could sustain a Chinese strike in a worst-case scenario.The military is prepared for a 10-day intensive war, with the Narendra Modi government allowing emergency purchases of critical ammunition and missiles after the 2016 Uri surgical strikes and 2019 Balakot strikes against Pakistan. “Any India-China hostility is unlikely to continue at an intense level without global intervention beyond 10 days,” the officer explained, adding that the indigenous ammunition is available for 40 days and conventional bombs for 60 days.



With four or five additional Rafale fighters, on which IAF pilots are training in France, ready to join the Ambala squadron next month, and a new Ladakh Corps Commander, Lt Gen PGK Menon, taking over, both the armies appear quite evenly matched, he said.

In tensions that began in early May, Indian and Chinese troops have come face-to-face at multiple points along the LAC. In some of these areas, particularly the Finger Area and Depsang, Indian forces have been cut off from points they could previously patrol. But the Indian Army now controls ridgeline positions on the lake’s southern bank that allow it to completely dominate the sector and keep an eye on Chinese military activity, with the positions scattered across Rezang La, Reqin pass, Gurung Hill and Magar heights.

The Indian Army has also taken control of key heights overlooking the PLA’s deployments on the Finger 4 ridgeline on the northern bank of Pangong Tso where rival soldiers are deployed barely a few hundred metres from each other.

Last week, defence minister Rajnath Singh told lawmakers in Parliament that no force in the world can stop the Indian Army from patrolling the country’s borders in the Ladakh sector, signalling a strong resolve to regain access to several areas that are now difficult to reach due to actions by the Chinese army along the LAC, even as the focus of multiple diplomatic and military talks between the two sides has been to “disengage and de-escalate”.

Lieutenant General AS Lamba (retd), former Vice Chief of Army Staff, said: “The situation on the LAC is escalating despite intense diplomatic efforts by India and talks between military commanders (of both the nations). It requires full operational readiness all along the LAC to pre-empt any reckless action by China.”

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China will suport dalits in a uprising.
China already tried that and failed ,in 1961 indo china war

china went to war with India at India's weakest political period in 1961 ...india was just newly formed, many ethnicities were not happy to come under Indian umbralla...Tamils were 1 of them ,they want to get out of India and almost daily riots that gave the central government a headache

when China suddenly invaded the entire separatists from Kashmir to Tamil Nadu dropped their guns and lined up to donate blood ...women from all kinds of social standings lined up and donated their jewllaries

china was in a winning streak ...having got wind of what's happening their troops withdraw back to where they started except for certain inoculated mountainous regions ..

actually china United India in 1961 or there would have been civil wars that would have broke India to pieces .Stupit Mao
 

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India is a smokescreen.

The real action is in the South China Sea or Taiwan (if Winnie goes crazy).
perhaps ,but why?...WHY create a smokescreen ?... with regards to South china sea and Taiwan ,China is up against the US and maybe Japan too and perhaps Vietnam and others..so how does china teaching India lesson helps?

if killing a chicken to frighten the monkey principle applies, that too should not involve India

I read the whole episode of warring with India differently ..it has more to do with upping Winnie popularity ..Winnie is badly bitten by his trade war with US ..and than this Covid19 fiasco ...Winnie badly needs a victory ...so he picked the weakest link to break ,that is India...india is economically broken and facing a civil war ,and covid 19 too ...but Winnie had grossly underestimated the professionalism of the Indian Army and what more fighting with PLA who had never fought a war
 

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perhaps ,but why?...WHY create a smokescreen ?... with regards to South china sea and Taiwan ,China is up against the US and maybe Japan too and perhaps Vietnam and others..so how does china teaching India lesson helps?

if killing a chicken to frighten the monkey principle applies, that too should not involve India

I read the whole episode of warring with India differently ..it has more to do with upping Winnie popularity ..Winnie is badly bitten by his trade war with US ..and than this Covid19 fiasco ...Winnie badly needs a victory ...so he picked the weakest link to break ,that is India...india is economically broken and facing a civil war ,and covid 19 too ...but Winnie had grossly underestimated the professionalism of the Indian Army and what more fighting with PLA who had never fought a war

Winnie is stirring shit with multiple countries. To distract from domestic problems.
 

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China send women to seduce Indian soldiers. All fuck till shiok shiok cannot fight. China attack sure win. Simple right. Chey!
 

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China is using India to decoy the Taiwan and SCS situation..... Sucking US into spending more money but the war will not happen.

US has no mountainous warfare expwriences. Beside US had been warmongering at ME region in desert war. Taking on ME countries weak in military weapons means nothing, than to fight a fierce war with enemy of same fire power, with nuclear power state ready weapon.

If war between India and China is to happen, US will be against 2 nuclear power state Russia and China.

Drag US into this India war with China way to divide US into 2 war fronts. Russia take on US in India war, whereas China take on US in SCS...

perhaps ,but why?...WHY create a smokescreen ?... with regards to South china sea and Taiwan ,China is up against the US and maybe Japan too and perhaps Vietnam and others..so how does china teaching India lesson helps?

if killing a chicken to frighten the monkey principle applies, that too should not involve India

I read the whole episode of warring with India differently ..it has more to do with upping Winnie popularity ..Winnie is badly bitten by his trade war with US ..and than this Covid19 fiasco ...Winnie badly needs a victory ...so he picked the weakest link to break ,that is India...india is economically broken and facing a civil war ,and covid 19 too ...but Winnie had grossly underestimated the professionalism of the Indian Army and what more fighting with PLA who had never fought a war
 

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China is using India to decoy the Taiwan and SCS situation..... Sucking US into spending more money but the war will not happen.

US has no mountainous warfare expwriences. Beside US had been warmongering at ME region in desert war. Taking on ME countries weak in military weapons means nothing, than to fight a fierce war with enemy of same fire power, with nuclear power state ready weapon.

If war between India and China is to happen, US will be against 2 nuclear power state Russia and China.

Drag US into this India war with China way to divide US into 2 war fronts. Russia take on US in India war, whereas China take on US in SCS...
perhaps you may not be aware of a couple of things...

1 high altitude mountain warfare ..india leads in this specialised warfare ...because India had fought 3 wars in such terrain with Pakistan ..in fact ,India trains US army in this

2 for some reasons US had never supported India, in all its war with china and Pakistan...in 1961 indo china war ,India practically cried for help to US but US refused than Russia stepped in to help India with arms and etc ,hence a life long frienship between India and Russia developed ,which last till today ....again during India's war with Pakistan when Bangladesh was liberated ..guess what ? US actually sent its 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal to threaten India

we must understand the past to know the present
 

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China is using India to decoy the Taiwan and SCS situation..... Sucking US into spending more money but the war will not happen.

US has no mountainous warfare expwriences. Beside US had been warmongering at ME region in desert war. Taking on ME countries weak in military weapons means nothing, than to fight a fierce war with enemy of same fire power, with nuclear power state ready weapon.

If war between India and China is to happen, US will be against 2 nuclear power state Russia and China.

Drag US into this India war with China way to divide US into 2 war fronts. Russia take on US in India war, whereas China take on US in SCS...
Russia is no friend of china.
China is isolated


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Rubbishing the Bharatiya Janata Party's (BJP) claims that the people of Jammu and Kashmir have accepted the abrogation of Article 370 in August last year, Abdullah said that if the Army troops were lifted from the streets of Kashmir, people would come out in huge numbers to protest against the move.

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Have they not heard what happened to uighyrs in xinjiang?
 

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China send women to seduce Indian soldiers. All fuck till shiok shiok cannot fight. China attack sure win. Simple right. Chey!
Indian army had been using rape as a doctrine in Kashmir to quell civil war ,and that for the past 60 years

have you seen a kasmiri girl ? fair ,blue eyes and some even blonde too ..not to mention extremely beautiful ...if not for Islam, they would be winning world beauty contest

hence ,china have to come out with something better
 

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Maybe these Chinese beauties will appease the Indian soldiers.

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