Good Advice from a Kiwi - Never trust the Chinese

[Leongsam]

Never trust the Chinese: Ex-Fonterra head

By Sonya Bateson, Joseph Aldridge
10:10 AM Tuesday May 28, 2013

Auckland Airport chairman-in-waiting Henry van der Heyden warned exporters in a speech about doing business with the Chinese. Photo / Richard Robinson


Former Fonterra chairman Sir Henry van der Heyden has warned exporters to be wary of fraudulent behaviour when doing business in China, saying: "Don't ever trust them ... never."

Speaking at a business women's conference in Tauranga, van der Heyden said doing business in China was full of surprises. "You've got to go and do business with your eyes wide open," he said.

Asked by an export manufacturer how small New Zealand businesses could ensure they were not ripped off when trading in China, Sir Henry said bad experiences should be used as opportunities to learn.

"That's my point about China. You will be full of surprises. Don't ever trust them ... never."

He later said the real intent of his comment was, "Be wary, be very careful."

Van der Heyden will head up the board of national gateway Auckland International Airport after the company's annual meeting in October. China is New Zealand's fastest growing tourism market and the airport is working hard with other tourism operators to attract more visitors from the country.

The airport company spent months courting China Southern Airlines to add Auckland to its international network. Current airport chair Joan Withers said she would comment later today, after speaking to van der Heyden.

Visitor arrivals from China through Auckland Airport were 37.2 per cent higher last month than April 2012. The 208,257 visitor arrivals for the 12 month period ending April 30 this year was a record for annual Chinese visitor arrivals at the airport.

Van der Heyden told conference delegates in Tauranga that Fonterra had learned the hard way after the Sanlu melamine scandal in 2008 and board members had discussed at length whether to continue producing milk in China.

"For us we made the decision, 'Look, we're here for the long run.' China is a very, very difficult market, and China's one of those places, I don't think you can sit on this side of the world and say this is how you're going to do business in China because you've actually got to be there, you've actually got to learn from your experiences as you evolve your business."

His comments come as Zespri is appealing against charges of criminal smuggling made against its Chinese subsidiary, saying it had been assured by Chinese officials the dual-invoicing method it was using was acceptable.

After the meeting, van der Heyden said he did not know enough of the details to comment on the Zespri court case but it reinforced his point.
NZ First leader Winston Peters said China's own Premier admitted the country's biggest problem was corruption and agreed that people should get to know the country before doing business there.

A spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Murray McCully said the minister had not seen van der Heyden's full remarks and was therefore unable to comment.

with nzherald.co.nz

By Sonya Bateson, Joseph Aldridge
- BAY OF PLENTY TIMES

Copyright ©2013, APN Holdings NZ Limited

 

[sickpuppy]

Sad to say but who can you trust in this world when doing business?

 

[Ash007]

In keeping with the same theme, they also hack hack as well.

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/blueprints-for-new-asio-headquarters-stolen-20130527-2n7kz.html

Blueprints for new ASIO headquarters 'stolen'
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The ASIO site in Russell has been plagued by delays and budget blowouts. Photo: Graham Tidy
Blueprints for ASIO's new $631 million building were stolen by someone in China when a computer system containing the information was hacked.

According to a report by the ABC's Four Corners, the blueprints included floor plans and the locations of communications cabling, servers and security systems.

The theft of the blueprints occurred after hackers mounted a cyber attack on a contractor involved with building the new headquarters. They were reportedly traced to a server in China.


The new ASIO building will not open until the latter part of this year. Photo: Jay Cronan
The incident, which has renewed calls for government agencies to make mandatory disclosures in the event they are hacked, is partly responsible for continuing delays in opening the new ASIO building, which was meant to have been operational last month, Four Corners reported.

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Costs have so far blown out by $171 million and it will not open until the latter half of this year.

The lead contractor is Bovis Lend Lease, but there is no suggestion it was the organisation hacked.


The new ASIO building at night. Photo: Katherine Griffiths
The departments of prime minister and cabinet, defence, tourism and foreign affairs and trade - home of Australia's overseas intelligence agency ASIS - have also been hacked, according to the program.

Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus declined to comment.

The cyber attack targeting the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade reportedly involved the theft of a highly sensitive document by a foreign power.

A source told the program a Chinese foreign intelligence service was behind the hacking.

A separate source said that hackers had also accessed classified emails on the Defence Department's restricted network, which connects the entire Australian military.

A separate attack on the Defence Department involved an employee sending a highly classified document from his desk computer to his home email account.

Hackers had targeted the officer's home computer, allowing a copy of the document to be sent back to China once opened at home.

The hacking incidents, which are largely shrouded in secrecy, have reopened the debate on whether the government should impose mandatory data breach disclosure laws on organisations that have had a data breach.

A proposal for mandatory disclosure laws was included in a discussion paper released by former attorney-general Nicola Roxon in October 2012.

The discussion paper talks about organisations, companies and government agencies being forced to disclose breaches.

Alastair MacGibbon, a former Australian Federal Police officer who established its high-tech crime centre, said mandatory disclosure was necessary.

Four Corners also reported that Codan, a defence contractor based in Adelaide that designs and builds communications equipment for radio, satellite and metal detection applications, had also been targeted.

A spokesman for the company said it had beefed up its security.

The program said BlueScope Steel was a victim of a cyber attack about three years ago too.

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[Raiders]

I'm back! Leongsam is right. Never trust the PRC to be exact. Got chopped like a carrot when I was there. Stay tuned for my reports

Need to shower and sleep now. Just reached now.

 

[chonburifc]

stupid ang moh. just because he alone don't know how to deal with the chinese, doesn't mean others cannot. have so many ang mohs deal with the chinese without problem.

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

Fuck! :oIo: Chee Hong Mod is back! :o

 

[The_Hypocrite]

What about Ah Nehs?

 

[chonburifc]

What about Ah Nehs?

thread title will be more correct if this is used.

 

[po2wq]

... Never trust the PRC to be exact ...

u shud noe dat u go prc is not 2 trust prc but 2 thrust prc mei-mei ...

 

[shctaw]

He meant China Chinese.

Singapore chinese can trust. We are dumb and will raise our ass to anyone.

 

[Agoraphobic]

Sad to say but who can you trust in this world when doing business?

That is so true. This statement from a previous boss I will always remember, "Business knows no friends."

Cheers!

 

[hungryboi]

What about Ah Nehs?

Ah Nehs cannot be trusted either. Majority of them know how to talk only.

 

[Leongsam]

Ah Nehs cannot be trusted either. Majority of them know how to talk only.

Let me say again that if you rid the world of Chinese, Ah Nehs, Muslims and Gypsies, it will be a much better place for those left and that includes me.

 

[laksaboy]

Let me say again that if you rid the world of Chinese, Ah Nehs, Muslims and Gypsies, it will be a much better place for those left and that includes me.

What's wrong with Gypsies?

 

[enterprise2]

Not surprised coming from a racist country like NZ!!!

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Maybe the Human Race should be exterminated,,than the Earth can renew again,,but of course not sure of what the next evolution will be,,could be worse,,,

[video=youtube;MKIXQdv4G7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIXQdv4G7o[/video]

Let me say again that if you rid the world of Chinese, Ah Nehs, Muslims and Gypsies, it will be a much better place for those left and that includes me.

 

[Fugitive]

Sad to say but who can you trust in this world when doing business?

You can trust me for sure. PM me if you have any lobang.

 

[Fugitive]

I'm back! Leongsam is right. Never trust the PRC to be exact. Got chopped like a carrot when I was there. Stay tuned for my reports

Need to shower and sleep now. Just reached now.

I thought I saw you in GZnpast few days. Your avatar face look familiar.

 

[eatshitndie]

ironically, the kiwi fruit is originated from china. :p

 

[Froggy]

Let me say again that if you rid the world of Chinese, Ah Nehs, Muslims and Gypsies, it will be a much better place for those left and that includes me.

Hey piggy you forgot the Maoris?