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Free choice is the choice to accept God or not.

Merciful to everyone who accepts but still sins in that He provides forgiveness. To those who still do not accept He still reaches out. Some respond at the very end of their lives, like the robber who was crucified with Jesus but some do not accept till the end.

But in the end there will be judgement. God is merciful but He is also holy. At the end of the day He must still judge.


knn i think you really sick liao ...free choice at the end of the day still got judgement ? " merciful " at the end of the day got punishment if you dont follow him ? :wink: tell that to a 3 years old kid and he will laugh at your silly comments :wink:
 

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" When God gave satan a choice he was not evil yet. He was created along with the other angels to worship and have fellowship with God " but your god know everything right ? :wink: he should have known before he created satan :wink: so hes not that smart afterall :wink:

" God commands us to follow and does not force. But God also knows that even the best of us cannot keep His commandments so He provided forgiveness through Jesus.
So everything is still free choice. " so if you dont follow him or believe in him will you go hell :wink:

We all exercise the free choice to believe Him or not. The Bible is very clear that salvation is only through believing in Jesus ( John 14.:6 )

I believe in the words recorded in the bible so i share this.

If anyone does not believe then i still respect them for their stand. I am not doing this to convert anyone but just to share what i think and believe since there is a religious forum here.

I have looked at some of your posts in the other section and you are quite a fair person who loves animals. I am sure you are the sort who would be very willing to share your experience and knowledge of animals if someone asked.

Similarly i share for the same reason. I do not go into the other section to share because that would be inappropriate and wrong but i think it is ok to share here, and i hope everything discussed here can be done in a friendly matured way even if we end up disagreeing on every single point and item.
 

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We all exercise the free choice to believe Him or not. The Bible is very clear that salvation is only through believing in Jesus ( John 14.:6 )

I believe in the words recorded in the bible so i share this.

If anyone does not believe then i still respect them for their stand. I am not doing this to convert anyone but just to share what i think and believe since there is a religious forum here.

I have looked at some of your posts in the other section and you are quite a fair person who loves animals. I am sure you are the sort who would be very willing to share your experience and knowledge of animals if someone asked.

Similarly i share for the same reason. I do not go into the other section to share because that would be inappropriate and wrong but i think it is ok to share here, and i hope everything discussed here can be done in a friendly matured way even if we end up disagreeing on every single point and item.

animals are real ...god is not ..thats the different . how can you believe in a storybook dated thousands of years ago ...a book with talking snake , walking on water , staying alive inside fish stomach for 3 days ...ect ? how can i respect a book full of fault and contradicting quotes ? seriously , the world will be a better place without any religon at all ...all those fairy tales are better to be left in comics coner of book store . sharing knowledge of facts is different from sharing delusion thoughts ...that why in this world , we have mental hospital . we dont need god to teach you to be good ...doing good just to help mankind is already good enough . we dont need any heaven to make us go the right path .....heaven is just a reward created by the cunning ppl to control the weak .
 

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unconditional to help people means you dont need any promises of heaven as rewards ...
 

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animals are real ...god is not ..thats the different . how can you believe in a storybook dated thousands of years ago ...a book with talking snake , walking on water , staying alive inside fish stomach for 3 days ...ect ? how can i respect a book full of fault and contradicting quotes ? seriously , the world will be a better place without any religon at all ...all those fairy tales are better to be left in comics coner of book store . sharing knowledge of facts is different from sharing delusion thoughts ...that why in this world , we have mental hospital . we dont need god to teach you to be good ...doing good just to help mankind is already good enough . we dont need any heaven to make us go the right path .....heaven is just a reward created by the cunning ppl to control the weak .


hi drifter. you believe what you posted 100% and i do respect that. No problems with me at all. But i also have my beliefs which i share but i do not impose it on anyone.
I really do not think any proper religion teaches its followers to do bad , its just the some who interpret and use religion for their own advantage , and that is the bad thing. In fact all the religion preach peace and the doing of good deeds.
 

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hi drifter. you believe what you posted 100% and i do respect that. No problems with me at all. But i also have my beliefs which i share but i do not impose it on anyone.
I really do not think any proper religion teaches its followers to do bad , its just the some who interpret and use religion for their own advantage , and that is the bad thing. In fact all the religion preach peace and the doing of good deeds.

of course all religion teaches ppl to do good ..by promising them heaven ? do we really need rewards to do good ? although all religion preach peace but where do holy war comes from ? why is that " my god " is better then " your god " comes from ? religion dont practice what they preach , have they ? religion in fact have divided human beings ...think about it .
 

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of course all religion teaches ppl to do good ..by promising them heaven ? do we really need rewards to do good ? although all religion preach peace but where do holy war comes from ? why is that " my god " is better then " your god " comes from ? religion dont practice what they preach , have they ? religion in fact have divided human beings ...think about it .

religion divides men because men allow it. Its like knives , by themselves they are useful and necessary but can be used for evil and men do use them for evil. Cant blame the knives.
Fire is good too but when abused by men to commit arson and torture its bad. The men i mean not the fire.

Many strong willed and powerful, charasmatic people hijack the religion for their own ambitions and they manage to gather many followers.
With their power base they commit many bad things in the name of their religion to further their own ambitions.
Thats why we see so many problems arising out of religions which include the so called ' holy wars '
Its all about pride, greed etc in men that cause, escalate and perpetuate these bad events not religion.
 

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religion divides men because men allow it. Its like knives , by themselves they are useful and necessary but can be used for evil and men do use them for evil. Cant blame the knives.
Fire is good too but when abused by men to commit arson and torture its bad. The men i mean not the fire.

Many strong willed and powerful, charasmatic people hijack the religion for their own ambitions and they manage to gather many followers.
With their power base they commit many bad things in the name of their religion to further their own ambitions.
Thats why we see so many problems arising out of religions which include the so called ' holy wars '
Its all about pride, greed etc in men that cause, escalate and perpetuate these bad events not religion.

so i ask you again ...why do smart and powerful god create a religion for men for their own ambitions use ? i thought god suppose to know it ? why god allow it to happen yet at the same time if you made mistake he will punish you ? yet he loves you ? dont you think its contradicting ?

you cant compare a knife and fire cause knife and fire do not have a brain and cant think for themself ..unless you say god also no brain .
 
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hi drifter. you believe what you posted 100% and i do respect that. No problems with me at all. But i also have my beliefs which i share but i do not impose it on anyone.
I really do not think any proper religion teaches its followers to do bad , its just the some who interpret and use religion for their own advantage , and that is the bad thing. In fact all the religion preach peace and the doing of good deeds.

hahaha , santa claus is coming to town.

friend , i read the bible and went to church on sunday morning , sad to say i cannot find which part of the bible that teach me to be good and did not hear
the priest said anything about how to be a good person.
it is always Praise the lord, Believe in Jesus and you are save.
which psalm teach you to be good ah ?
have you ever heard a priest , a pastor say this : you have been with the church for more than 10 years , do you find any improvement in yourself ? are you less greedy than
you were 10 years ago ? are you as easy to get angry as you were 10 years ago ? are you as lustful as before ? you ego still a big as the earth ?

important thing is one must not bluff oneself in whatever one chose to belief.
 

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...In fact all the religion preach peace and the doing of good deeds.

goodness.. have you done your research and homework on this? seriously, read Deuteronomy, Numbers, Judges, Leviticus, Exodus etc... tell me that there is no incident recorded in these books that god didnt smite, kill, destroy, direct or indirectly.
 

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hahaha , santa claus is coming to town.

friend , i read the bible and went to church on sunday morning , sad to say i cannot find which part of the bible that teach me to be good and did not hear
the priest said anything about how to be a good person.
it is always Praise the lord, Believe in Jesus and you are save.
which psalm teach you to be good ah ?
have you ever heard a priest , a pastor say this : you have been with the church for more than 10 years , do you find any improvement in yourself ? are you less greedy than
you were 10 years ago ? are you as easy to get angry as you were 10 years ago ? are you as lustful as before ? you ego still a big as the earth ?

important thing is one must not bluff oneself in whatever one chose to belief.

hi many parts of the bible teach you to do good. The commandments in the book of Exodus chapter tells us what not to do along with other commandments. In the New testament the commandment to love God and to love your neighbour are some more examples. Romans chapter 12 also teaches good.
The priest did not say because he may have been focussing on some other topic during his sermon.
Psalms dont really teach you to be good in the sense that you mean. Psalms express emotions to God but there is much to learn from them too.
Your question about my behaviour is very interesting. It is really not for me to judge myself but my family and friends have told me i have improved a lot and that is very encouraging to me. Personally i think so too.
Dont get me wrong, i still lose it sometimes and get very angry, i still at times think bad stuff and yes i still look at girls .

Does that mean i am a hypocrite ? A hypocrite to me is someone who tries to pretend to be someone he is not or has no intention to be.

I dont think i am like that. Its just that i havent reached the level that God requires and truthfully i never will because the standard is too high. Thats why i need Jesus.
The thing is you dont need to be perfect or good to come to Jesus rather you come to Him to be made good.
 

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goodness.. have you done your research and homework on this? seriously, read Deuteronomy, Numbers, Judges, Leviticus, Exodus etc... tell me that there is no incident recorded in these books that god didnt smite, kill, destroy, direct or indirectly.
hi . yes i know about the old testament pentatuech books that do display what some say are bloodthirsty characteristics of God.

This is due to the seriousness of sin hence such repercussions. Later on His own Son shed blood for the sins of the world to show His love and to take away the penalty of all our sin. As i have said on some other post, God is love but God is also holy and has to address and punish sin.
 

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There's A Talking Donkey In The Bible

my question is not whether rich or poor ppl rode the donkey ...my question is since god created a talking snake , why cant he created a talking donkey ?

In fact, according to The Old Testament, there was a talking donkey. The whole idea or plan of God is NOT about creating a talking donkey or snake. Even if there was something like that, it was only once. Why ? Of course, I know why. Because it is considered as Top Secret, I can only reveal two equations for you to solve the mystery if you do possess the wisdom to decipher it.

  • Firstly, God did not write scriptures most of the time except the part about the Moses Law tablets.
  • Strange events had to be done so that the scribes or prophets could see or understand these strange occurances and recorded them down in a chronology or as a history book. Of course, it is NOT a history book. Why ?


Balaam and The Talking Donkey

The story of Balaam and the talking donkey is humorous plus it really happened. If you are middle aged or older, you are very likely to remember the movie that starred Francis the talking mule. Did you know that there is also a talking donkey in the Bible?

The story can be found in the book of Numbers chapter 22. Balaam was believed to have the ability to bless or curse people. He was a resident in an area near Babylon which is present day Iraq.
 

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Re: There's A Talking Donkey In The Bible

In fact, according to The Old Testament, there was a talking donkey. The whole idea or plan of God is NOT about creating a talking donkey or snake. Even if there was something like that, it was only once. Why ? Of course, I know why. Because it is considered as Top Secret, I can only reveal two equations for you to solve the mystery if you do possess the wisdom to decipher it.

  • Firstly, God did not write scriptures most of the time except the part about the Moses Law tablets.
  • Strange events had to be done so that the scribes or prophets could see or understand these strange occurances and recorded them down in a chronology or as a history book. Of course, it is NOT a history book. Why ?


Balaam and The Talking Donkey

The story of Balaam and the talking donkey is humorous plus it really happened. If you are middle aged or older, you are very likely to remember the movie that starred Francis the talking mule. Did you know that there is also a talking donkey in the Bible?

The story can be found in the book of Numbers chapter 22. Balaam was believed to have the ability to bless or curse people. He was a resident in an area near Babylon which is present day Iraq.


top secret ? can i just say theres a pink elephant in your house but im not going to tell you which part of the house the pink elephant is ...cause its TOP SERCRET :wink:

how you know those strange occurances and recorded thousands years ago by scribes or prophets is not fake ( how you know those prophet is not on drugs ? ) thousands of years ago ppl believe the world is not round ...do you believe the world is not round ? and what about noah art ? [video=youtube;ytgHI8rS_Js]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytgHI8rS_Js[/video]

" The story of Balaam and the talking donkey is humorous plus it really happened. If you are middle aged or older, you are very likely to remember the movie that starred Francis the talking mule. Did you know that there is also a talking donkey in the Bible? " . since you already said its a movie ...so you believed in harry potter , gonzilla , utraman ...ect movie too ?
 
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contradicting bible :wink:


1 ) War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.



ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

3) Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

4) Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

5) Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

6) Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

7) How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

8) Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

9) Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

10 ) The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

11) Rabbits do not chew their cud
LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.

12) Snails do not melt
PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

13) Fowl from waters or ground?
GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

14) Odd genetics
GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

15) The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

16) Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

17) Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Heaven supported too
JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

18) The hydrological cycle
ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle

19) Order of creation
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

20) How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days."
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

21 ) How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

22) Moses' personality
NUM 12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."

NUM 31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."

23) Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."

24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

25) Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

26) Jesus' last words
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

27 ) Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

29 ) The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

30 ) God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

31 ) CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

32 ) Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

33 ) Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)

"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

34 ) Ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

35 ) What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - MAT 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - MAR 14:30

36 ) How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

37 ) How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

38 ) Does every man sin?
1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

39 ) Who bought potter's field
ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

40 ) Who prophesied the potter's field?
MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13


41 ) Who bears guilt?
GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

42 ) Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

43 ) How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

44) How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

45 ) Marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)

46 ) Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

47 ) Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

(various traipsings)

48 ) How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

49 ) Judging
1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

50 ) Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

51) For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

52 ) Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

53 ) God change?
MAL 3:6
JAS 1:17
1SA 15:29
JON 3:10
GEN 6:6

54 ) Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)

55 ) Who's sepulchers
ACT 7:16
GEN 23:17,18

56 ) Strong drink?
PRO 31:6,7
JOH 2:11-11

57 ) When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

(See also 1TH 4:15-18)

58 ) Solomon's overseers
1KI 9:23 550
2CH 8:10 250

59 ) The mother of Abijah:
2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

60 ) When did Baasha die?
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

61 ) How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
2KI 8:26 22

2CH 22:2 42

62 ) What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

63 ) What did they give him to drink?
MAT 27:34 vinegar

MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

64 ) How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day."
 
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God my healer

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so i ask you again ...why do smart and powerful god create a religion for men for their own ambitions use ? i thought god suppose to know it ? why god allow it to happen yet at the same time if you made mistake he will punish you ? yet he loves you ? dont you think its contradicting ?

you cant compare a knife and fire cause knife and fire do not have a brain and cant think for themself ..unless you say god also no brain .

hi, God didnt create religion. He created relationships. When Adam/Eve were created there was no religion. Much later on man in his desire to worship created religions. My thoughts are that man is created to worship. In general we all tend to worship or place a very high value on someone or something.
If that someone is not God then it could end up being money, possessions, other people ( including pop stars ) or as we read elsewhere even devil worship.
Its just that i have decided to worship Jesus.
God loves the relationship with man but God is holy and cannot condone sin. The sinless man he created fell into sin so that ruined the relationship. God could have intervened in the garden of Eden but that would have taken away Adam/Eve's choice. God's way to restore the relationship is through Jesus. He still gives us a chance to be with Him.
Again lets keep this whole thread in perspective. I am just sharing about who i worship and why. I am not trying to preach or convert anyone here.
ALll of us have our own opinions about everything under the sun including religion.
 

greedy and cunning

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hi many parts of the bible teach you to do good. The commandments in the book of Exodus chapter tells us what not to do along with other commandments. In the New testament the commandment to love God and to love your neighbour are some more examples. Romans chapter 12 also teaches good..


what nonsense you saying ?
what 'good' you have learned ? can you be more specific ?
and the bible is thousand of pages thick , you just mentioned a few lines from a few pages and you called that a teaching ?:*::*::*::*::*:
 

greedy and cunning

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God loves the relationship with man but God is holy and cannot condone sin. The sinless man he created fell into sin so that ruined the relationship. God could have intervened in the garden of Eden but that would have taken away Adam/Eve's choice. God's way to restore the relationship is through Jesus. He still gives us a chance to be with Him.
Again lets keep this whole thread in perspective. I am just sharing about who i worship and why. I am not trying to preach or convert anyone here.
ALll of us have our own opinions about everything under the sun including religion.

OK , me also not trying to preach anything or converting anyone here.
But seeing people are blinded by their over zealous devotion and refused to admit their folly even when logical and factual reason are there ,
i have to just give a pointer to wake them up.

you said : The sinless man he created fell into sin so that ruined the relationship. God could have intervened in the garden of Eden but that would have taken away Adam/Eve's choice. . He still gives us a chance to be with Him.

don't you think the above very contradicting ?
1] christain claimed that god is perfect and full of kindness.
how can a perfect god created something that is imperfect ? a sinless man that can become sinful ?

2] why do god have to let adam and eve make a choice ?
the notion of having to choose is in itself an imperfection.
if everything is perfect why is there a need to choose ?

3] God's way to restore the relationship is through Jesus.
but jesus came very much later after adam and eve died and after the descendant of adam died.
so adam and eve and their descendant got no chance at all ?

you know the thing is full of holes but you just do no want to admit it.
it is very understandable.
people stick to what they believe due to :
1] this is their culture , eg : all malay in malaysia will automatically be a muslim from the moment they are born.
2] people has believed in this for a very long period , and it is difficult to admit that the belief is wrong. due to a huge EGO.
3] people not willing to change due to peer or family pressure.

let me ask you this :
muslim believe in a creator god , believe in the god will save you from hell
christain believe in a creator god , believe in the god will save you from hell.

so why are you not a muslim ?
after all the end result is the same.
 

drifter

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hi, God didnt create religion. He created relationships. When Adam/Eve were created there was no religion. Much later on man in his desire to worship created religions. My thoughts are that man is created to worship. In general we all tend to worship or place a very high value on someone or something.
If that someone is not God then it could end up being money, possessions, other people ( including pop stars ) or as we read elsewhere even devil worship.
Its just that i have decided to worship Jesus.
God loves the relationship with man but God is holy and cannot condone sin. The sinless man he created fell into sin so that ruined the relationship. God could have intervened in the garden of Eden but that would have taken away Adam/Eve's choice. God's way to restore the relationship is through Jesus. He still gives us a chance to be with Him.
Again lets keep this whole thread in perspective. I am just sharing about who i worship and why. I am not trying to preach or convert anyone here.
ALll of us have our own opinions about everything under the sun including religion.


god created relationships ? if your god created relationships why must your god force men ( believe in him and you will go heaven ) to believe in him only and not other religion god ? he just divide humans . god had created money opportunities for greedy man ...if your god is all knowing and powerful why cant he stop those greedy ppl ? you keep on saying your god created human and its human who fell into sin ...why cant your god control the situation ( since hes so powerful ) ? either theres no god or your god is helpless :wink: . why only Praise your god for all the good things happened , what about those bad things ? your god just want to hear good words ? yes all of us have our own opinion ...does it means that if you believe in spaghetti monster , we must agreed ? does it means that we must agreed what mentally ill ppl sees or hear ? im also sharing my logical thoughts about your religion ..
 
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