God loving or God fearing?

[fishbuff]

When a person becomes a Christian, God becomes his Father.

The 'health and wealth' church movement has taken the concept of this privilege to the fallacious extreme.

They now treat God like a vending machine. Put money into the offering bag and expect God to multiply it many folds. This is reckless faith. This is showing disrespect to God's love. It is like spoilt children not knowing how to behave.

Thus, for such a group of people and the other malpracticing Christians, a healthy dose of God-fearing is in order.

Otherwise, as the Bible commands in Luke 10:27:

Love your Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind.

let me rephrase your statement;

"When a person becomes a SantaClausian, Santa Claus becomes his Father.

The 'health and wealth' church movement has taken the concept of this privilege to the fallacious extreme.

They now treat Santa Claus like a vending machine. Put money into the offering bag and expect Santa Claus to multiply it many folds. This is reckless faith. This is showing disrespect to Santa Claus' love. It is like spoilt children not knowing how to behave.

Thus, for such a group of people and the other malpracticing SantaClausians, a healthy dose of Santa Claus-fearing is in order.

Otherwise, as the Bible commands in Luke 10:27:

Love your Lord your Santa Claus with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind."

 

[tualingong]

problem is Santa Claus is not the Creator but the created.

 

[drifter]

problem is Santa Claus is not the Creator but the created.

The problem is .. You are delusion .. " god " is also created

 

[Toronto]

The problem is .. You are delusion .. " god " is also created

drifter,
You must understand anything is POSSIBLE to a believer.

Not only serpent can talk, also possible for Adam Eve and their wonderful descendant tau lin gong to eat through the ass and excrete out of the mouth, walked on hands.

How far your imagination is the limit. Drifter too bad for you not be a gospel writer, otherwise you can write better unconceivable stuffs.

God is so powerful, he can suddenly turned the earth from FLAT to ROUND.

Every good laws are God's laws. How about laws of evils, laws of germs(H1N1)?
Please ask the believer not to use Satan.

 

[drifter]

drifter,
You must understand anything is POSSIBLE to a believer.

Not only serpent can talk, also possible for Adam Eve and their wonderful descendant tau lin gong to eat through the ass and excrete out of the mouth, walked on hands.

How far your imagination is the limit. Drifter too bad for you not be a gospel writer, otherwise you can write better unconceivable stuffs.

God is so powerful, he can suddenly turned the earth from FLAT to ROUND.

Every good laws are God's laws. How about laws of evils, laws of germs(H1N1)?
Please ask the believer not to use Satan.

To those delusional ppl .. All they need is blind faith to believe anything and everything in their storybook . Faith is to shut their eyes of reason ..

 

[Toronto]

To those delusional ppl .. All they need is blind faith to believe anything and everything in their storybook . Faith is to shut their eyes of reason ..

Bro,
Don't be too extreme like the radical xtians. Faith is not totally unacceptable or wrong if it is a way of life to help one to become a better person or for the betterment of mankind.

Unfornately, xtianity has been a destructive force in mankind history, even in angmo lands.

 

[drifter]

Bro,
Don't be too extreme like the radical xtians. Faith is not totally unacceptable or wrong if it is a way of life to help one to become a better person or for the betterment of mankind.

Unfornately, xtianity has been a destructive force in mankind history, even in angmo lands.

Faith is wrong .. Period . faith stop ppl from thinking . Human do not need faith to become a better person . Those who need faith to be a better person is actucally wanting to do good for himself or herself to exchange for something else ( heaven , good karma ) . That alone already make human to give conditionally and not teach human to give unconditionally . That is a bad .

 

[drifter]

You don't need any reward to do good if u really wanted to help ppl .

 

[Toronto]

You don't need any reward to do good if u really wanted to help ppl .

Agreed, a real good doer won't ask for or expect condition return.

 

[Toronto]

faith stop ppl from thinking .

That is blind faith. Blind faith without using your thinking head is wrong.

 

[Dreamer1]

Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh - I Will Be What I Will Be - (song from Yemenite Diwan) אהיה אשר אהיה

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpx618dfyxQ

 

[whoami]

Faith is wrong .. Period

Lets put aside religion. Lets make it short and simple.

Have u ever seen a flying kris?

 

[PCock]

I think we all need to have fear from God, so that we can restrict ourselves from bad deeds and sins, and could do well for humanity. But on the other hand God is very loving to his men. We all just need to believe on God.

 

[whoami]

I think we all need to have fear from God, so that we can restrict ourselves from bad deeds and sins, and could do well for humanity. But on the other hand God is very loving to his men. We all just need to believe on God.

God need to be loved & feared, imo.

 

[fishbuff]

I think we all need to have fear from God, so that we can restrict ourselves from bad deeds and sins, and could do well for humanity. But on the other hand God is very loving to his men. We all just need to believe on God.

you dont read the old testament at all, eh?

 

[spudmania]

a true believer must love god unconditionally without the rewards & punishments. rewards & punishments are ways to remind us that we need to love god. then this love is conditional.

just like when we were schooling, our parents will say if you fail you will kena cane but if u pass with flying colors they will reward you with gifts. so because we want the gifts and not kena cane, we study hard. but if you take away the rewards & punishments, will we still study hard?

without the reward of heaven & punishment of hell, will believers still love god?

 

[fishbuff]

a true believer must love god unconditionally without the rewards & punishments. rewards & punishments are ways to remind us that we need to love god. then this love is conditional.

just like when we were schooling, our parents will say if you fail you will kena cane but if u pass with flying colors they will reward you with gifts. so because we want the gifts and not kena cane, we study hard. but if you take away the rewards & punishments, will we still study hard?

without the reward of heaven & punishment of hell, will believers still love god?

please prove, beyond reasonable doubts and with evidences, that god exist.

 

[whoami]

"I did not create the jinn and mankind except for My worship". [Noble Quran 51:56]

 

[spudmania]

please prove, beyond reasonable doubts and with evidences, that god exist.

fishbuff, we are not discussing the existence of god in this thread. you may start a thread to discuss it.

 

[Toronto]

"I did not create the jinn and mankind except for My worship". [Noble Quran 51:56]

bro whoami,
Can explain this verse?

As-salamu alaykum