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Chitchat Global Times: Trump must pay respect to China!

winners

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but samseng also make their phones and buy batts from china. in fact, 90% of lithium comes from china as it is the main producer of such rare earth

so monk run fast fast shirley temple cannot run
SAMSUNG had already announced that they will stop buying handphone batteries from China after their NOTE 7 incident. They even have to eat the humble pie and source from their rival, LG Chemicals instead.
 

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thats the problem isnt it?all the money ends up in the hands of the top few,wealth inequality is still as bad as before.how is that going to help america and the middle class and poor?ever since america elected that reagan and bush and all that right wing scum,america's debt to gdp ratio has been rising and rising nonstop thanks to all the tax cuts to the rich and right wing economic policies and globalization.the problem comes from within america not outside,if the dumb american rednecks republicans could see that,vote in the liberal democrat socialists,force the rich and corporations to pay their taxes or the problem will never end.

Lucky I don't have to work very hard to come up with an effective rebuttal. If one is born in a First or even Second World country without any defects or been victim to a totally unforeseeable and unpreventable medical disaster, then the problem is essentially one of personal responsibility and no amount of high sounding words like "liberal democrat socialist" or "social justice" is ever going to change that fact.

[video=youtube;LFWKNBHgQzA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFWKNBHgQzA[/video]
 

winners

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The Chinks are shitting in their pants now. By appointing Peter Navarro as his trade czar and Rex Tillerson to be Secretary of State, the chinks had better learn to be more humble going into 2017. Even Putin may decide to switch allies if the sanctions against Russia will be lifted.
 

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SAMSUNG had already announced that they will stop buying handphone batteries from China after their NOTE 7 incident. They even have to eat the humble pie and source from their rival, LG Chemicals instead.

samseng is like those iraqi.. in front can say fighting with ISIL behind back is friend.

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Lucky I don't have to work very hard to come up with an effective rebuttal. If one is born in a First or even Second World country without any defects or been victim to a totally unforeseeable and unpreventable medical disaster, then the problem is essentially one of personal responsibility and no amount of high sounding words like "liberal democrat socialist" or "social justice" is ever going to change that fact.

[video=youtube;LFWKNBHgQzA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFWKNBHgQzA[/video]

u forgot to look at the economy as a whole,if the bottom 30 percent working class are impoverished and become sliver thin and the middle class are becoming dangerously thin,and the economy becomes top heavy,it will topple and crash.u cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy middle class and a decent working class to support it.if there are no consumers,there can be no business.walmart and many other corporations have began to notice this trend developing in the late 80s and 90s and have acknowledged this problem though not publicly.....take walmart for example.a economy is like symbiosis between businesses and workers,when walmart enters a new rural or suburban community,it competes with various local mom and pop stores and eateries and cafes and small businesses driving them out of business,but after some time of garnishing and extracting the wealth of the local community,walmart notices the local community becomes too impoverish to support the walmart,after all walmart brings nothing but lowly paid minimum wage drones with few or little benefits that the workers have to rely on welfare and public healthcare system to support their families and raise their children,instead of small local businesses supporting many jobs and workers and the local community,all walmart does is extract wealth to feed its corporate greed.....eventually the community becomes too impoverish to support the walmart any longer,and it goes out of business leaving an empty barren desolate carpark and a once thriving community.

this cycle is becoming faster and faster now in the internet age,businesses such as amazon and facebook are extracting wealth at a phenomenal rate without really adding any value in real life.unlike companies that produces real goods and services that help raise our standards of living.and the internet age happens at a even faster rate,in a matter of years rather then decades like traditional brick and mortar businesses like walmart.
 
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so u are suggesting the government print money and distribute it to the poor in order to dilute the rich's wealth sort of a hidden tax thru inflation?inflation without increase in output could be a dangerous thing like in germany,wealth is debt,simply the more money u own the more debt u own.
Based on what I understand what the economist was saying, "credit" is not printing money alone. It gives the poor an opportunity for access to money for business venture (if they are wise) and may give them a chance to be successful. It also expands economic activities.
The banks that give the credit are the ones who should bear the risk. However, it doesn't work this way. Most poors are not prudent so credit extended to them are splurged away. When they defaulted, the banks should shoulder the loss i.e. the rich share holders. In that way, defaulting by the poor is a way of transferring wealth from the rich to the poor. However, when govt bail out the rich, govt takes the poors' tax payment to return to the rich.

It sounded stupid but technically that is how it should work in theory and to me economists like to propose nonsenses.
 

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Any economists will tell you, if you start a trade war with china, yes china will suffer, but practically every other country will lose and suffer ten times more. The reason is very simple. You can look down on the poor PRC assembling your goods in a sweat shop factory making low earnings a day, but you can never dispute the fact that hundreds of millions of PRC are doing just that to put food on the table, creating REAL VALUE through sheer hard work of their own. China has a very long history of a back breaking agricultural society and its not surprising that the same hardworking skill set is transferred to another industry to become the manufacturing hub of the world.

Compare that to the jobless bums collecting free money and food stamps from the government while at the same time bashing china and hoping china fails so that they can feel better about their miserable self.
 

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China will implode from the inside like they always do. This time, it will be republicans v the communist again. Unfinished business. And millions of refugees will seek shelter in south east asia again, like they have been doing for centuries.
 
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u forgot to look at the economy as a whole,if the bottom 30 percent working class are impoverished and become sliver thin and the middle class are becoming dangerously thin,and the economy becomes top heavy,it will topple and crash.u cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy middle class and a decent working class to support it.if there are no consumers,there can be no business.walmart and many other corporations have began to notice this trend developing in the late 80s and 90s and have acknowledged this problem though not publicly.....take walmart for example.a economy is like symbiosis between businesses and workers,when walmart enters a new rural or suburban community,it competes with various local mom and pop stores and eateries and cafes and small businesses driving them out of business,but after some time of garnishing and extracting the wealth of the local community,walmart notices the local community becomes too impoverish to support the walmart,after all walmart brings nothing but lowly paid minimum wage drones with few or little benefits that the workers have to rely on welfare and public healthcare system to support their families and raise their children,instead of small local businesses supporting many jobs and workers and the local community,all walmart does is extract wealth to feed its corporate greed.....eventually the community becomes too impoverish to support the walmart any longer,and it goes out of business leaving an empty barren desolate carpark and a once thriving community.

this cycle is becoming faster and faster now in the internet age,businesses such as amazon and facebook are extracting wealth at a phenomenal rate without really adding any value in real life.unlike companies that produces real goods and services that help raise our standards of living.and the internet age happens at a even faster rate,in a matter of years rather then decades like traditional brick and mortar businesses like walmart.

Walmart brings more variety, convenience, better service, etc to the consumer. The world will not be a better place if the consumer can only buy from inefficient, rude and no variety mom and pop stores.

Competition is good, primarily for the consumer. Mom and pop stores or their equivalent can either adapt or die. This is perfectly fair and equitable.

Nobody has a right to a middle class existence without needing to WORK intelligently for it. If the natives can't or will not do it then there's nothing wrong with importing the right kind of people from outside.

The invisible hand is working just fine. Mom and pop stores who can adapt to the new environment can thrive, those who can't deserve to die and not a single dime of my taxpayers' money should go to their "welfare" ahem extortion payments.

[video=youtube;vR6nEasVGao]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR6nEasVGao[/video]
 
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winners

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business is a two way deal.
both side are willing party to it.

so u saying Bill Clinton allowing china to join WTO
means china manufacturers can automatically export their goods to US ,
US importers are there at the ports ,ready to receive the goods
because china is WTO member.
Buyers just appear by magic ?

why don't u blame the imports and buyers ? if only they stop buying no matter at what price
china industries will come to a standstill.
I don't have to answer this to you. Go and read up what are the terms and conditions of being in the WTO and about fair trade practices. If China was not inducted into the WTO, they won't get preferential treatment and their exports will be subjected to high tariffs, similar to what they are now doing pertaining to their import of finished goods into China.

The world have been deceived and are still being deceived into believing that the commies will open up their markets to free trade, which is totally in non-existence. Otherwise, you don't need those Chinks to go to France and Europe to buy Prada, LV, and all the sorts. Why don't they just buy these domestically? Ask yourself this question?
 

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there is no poor white people in the British empire white dominated colonies like Australia, Canada, USA, etc.

The whites will go any remote parts of their country to give money to poor whites telling them there is o poor whites in this land.

So how can America be manufacturers if they give dole to the poor.

D Trumpet is a humji braggart talk only to make America great again. To make America great is to import more Chinese goods sounds better.




Any economists will tell you, if you start a trade war with china, yes china will suffer, but practically every other country will lose and suffer ten times more. The reason is very simple. You can look down on the poor PRC assembling your goods in a sweat shop factory making low earnings a day, but you can never dispute the fact that hundreds of millions of PRC are doing just that to put food on the table, creating REAL VALUE through sheer hard work of their own. China has a very long history of a back breaking agricultural society and its not surprising that the same hardworking skill set is transferred to another industry to become the manufacturing hub of the world.

Compare that to the jobless bums collecting free money and food stamps from the government while at the same time bashing china and hoping china fails so that they can feel better about their miserable self.
 

tanwahtiu

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you are dickhead.

As Chinese get richer they become tourists and shop in France and etc. But the goods are made in China to maximise profits for the biz.

China has moved into high end manufacturing like cars, planes and gunboats. They will dominate high end market to make more money and soon make American poorer and beggars.





I don't have to answer this to you. Go and read up what are the terms and conditions of being in the WTO and about fair trade practices. If China was not inducted into the WTO, they won't get preferential treatment and their exports will be subjected to high tariffs, similar to what they are now doing pertaining to their import of finished goods into China.

The world have been deceived and are still being deceived into believing that the commies will open up their markets to free trade, which is totally in non-existence. Otherwise, you don't need those Chinks to go to France and Europe to buy Prada, LV, and all the sorts. Why don't they just buy these domestically? Ask yourself this question?
 

winners

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you are dickhead.

As Chinese get richer they become tourists and shop in France and etc. But the goods are made in China to maximise profits for the biz.

China has moved into high end manufacturing like cars, planes and gunboats. They will dominate high end market to make more money and soon make American poorer and beggars.
You are indeed a fuck. You'll never understand the meaning of fair trade practices. WTF to have replied to a nerd like you? And how did the Chinks get richer? By copying and under pricing their goods against their rivals throughout the world, not just the Americans. By simply copying, they would have already saved tremendously from the R&D works. Can you list to me just 10 consumer items which have their origins (IP) from China?
 
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tanwahtiu

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Chink work hard and toil the soil and get rich.

Angmoh copied Chink inventions long time ago and nothing wrong to copy each other.

Fair trade? Talk to the Pommies who forced China to open opium trade whereas they banned it in England and their colonized white dominated states back in 1800s. What you know of the white trash characters.

You are really a dickhead.







You are indeed a fuck. You'll never understand the meaning of fair trade practices. WTF to have replied to a nerd like you? And how did the Chinks get richer? By copying and under pricing their goods against their rivals throughout the world, not just the Americans. By simply copying, they would have already saved tremendously from the R&D works.
 

winners

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Chink work hard and toil the soil and get rich.
LOL. Chinks used to be the laziest bum in this part of the world. I have interacted with the Chinks since the early 90s. All their SOEs have 2 hours lunch and stopped work at 4pm every workday. You talk through your ass.

As for the opium war, they only have themselves to blame. Are they being forced into their throats?
 

greedy and cunning

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I don't have to answer this to you. Go and read up what are the terms and conditions of being in the WTO and about fair trade practices. If China was not inducted into the WTO, they won't get preferential treatment and their exports will be subjected to high tariffs, similar to what they are now doing pertaining to their import of finished goods into China.

The world have been deceived and are still being deceived into believing that the commies will open up their markets to free trade, which is totally in non-existence. Otherwise, you don't need those Chinks to go to France and Europe to buy Prada, LV, and all the sorts. Why don't they just buy these domestically? Ask yourself this question?

su mentioned fair trading practices.
so u are saying that the US controlled WTO allowed china in
under special conditions -
china is exempted from this fair trade rules.
if china did not open its market for free trade
why she still allowed to be member of WTO ?

maybe you dont have to answer that question.
i think i know what your response will be :
I don't have to answer this to you. Go and read up what are the terms and conditions
of being in the WTO .......
 

winners

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su mentioned fair trading practices.
so u are saying that the US controlled WTO allowed china in
under special conditions -
china is exempted from this fair trade rules.
if china did not open its market for free trade
why she still allowed to be member of WTO ?

maybe you dont have to answer that question.
i think i know what your response will be :
I don't have to answer this to you. Go and read up what are the terms and conditions
of being in the WTO .......
You have replied yourself dude. Under Trump, he may decide to quit from the WTO. Don't be surprised. By doing so, he can then dictate the trading rules for/with America.
 
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greedy and cunning

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You have replied yourself dude. Under Trump, he may decide to quit from the WTO. Don't be surprised. By doing so, he can then dictate the trading rules for/with America.

first you said WTO members practise fair trades
next you said china was allowed in but did not follow the rules.
and no country can do anything.

how on earth that Trump quitting WTO is my answer ?
 

winners

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first you said WTO members practise fair trades
next you said china was allowed in but did not follow the rules.
and no country can do anything.

how on earth that Trump quitting WTO is my answer ?
Did I say as such? I'm just saying that you have replied yourself. My analogy of Trump quitting the WTO is to highlight another means of his administration to get back at those countries with unfair trade practices without implicating himself. Just do what the others do unto you.

More fireworks could be on the way come 2017, not necessary militarily, but in trade. Trump's withdrawal from the TPP is already a tell-tale.
 
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