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Enough! No more money to be given to have more kids

You, or more precisely, the people of Singapore voted the government in. Unless your sentiments is of the majority they will continue to do whatever they want. If you want change, then change your environment. Or change the government that will have a more aligned view with yours. This is the nature of democracy.

My point is that dont make everyone pay for this. I am not interested in whether the current or néw generations have more kids or not. I already raised mine with no help from anyone! Now I am thinking of retiring and I don't want to pay for some selfish strangers to have babies. Heck! I wouldn't pay my kids to have babies what more strangers!
 
Were you around 40 years ago? How then can you claim that we had a problem with our population:confused:
Why don't you share your proof :confused:

It's strange that our neighbours in Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand didn't see this problem. Why only Spore:confused:

Yes, we had problems with jobs and they paid 100 plus per month in factories back then.
And yes, they too had problems and ended up with high unemployments n low income today.
 
Hey all! Let's get back to my thread. All I am saying is that I oppose any more monies for this. I hope we get more kids and I don't want more FTs but I am against pumping more monies to resolve this, especially if it means we have to pay more taxes!!


Thats correct. We should take responsibility for our own kids, not the govt.
 
Yes, we had problems with jobs and they paid 100 plus per month in factories back then.
And yes, they too had problems and ended up with high unemployments n low income today.


Where is your proof that "lesser mortals" were poor & unhappy back then:confused:

LKY is famous for perpetuating the myth of how he was responsible for raising a fishing village to a world class swiss standard:D
Another one is that Spore could not succeed:rolleyes:

Spore was far from being a poor country & people wanted to come to Spore for a reason, to make $$$. It was the 4th busiest port in the world. In fact Spore had very strict immigration rules to keep people out.
 
You, or more precisely, the people of Singapore voted the government in. Unless your sentiments is of the majority they will continue to do whatever they want. If you want change, then change your environment. Or change the government that will have a more aligned view with yours. This is the nature of democracy.

I am not sure what our Opposition position is on this?? If they r also proposing to throw money at singles to get married and have children, I will also object!! By the way I never voted for MIW for the last 2 elections already.
 
That is the problem with Singapore's opposition. They don't make many issues, or statements about many popular issues. Its no wonder everyone seem to pick PAP every GE.

I am not sure what our Opposition position is on this?? If they r also proposing to throw money at singles to get married and have children, I will also object!! By the way I never voted for MIW for the last 2 elections already.
 
That's what I am saying. I don't care how they do it, just don't pump in more public monies and make everyone pay as a result. It's their fault we ended like this so they have to fix this. That's what we paid million $ salaries to them for.

All they are concerned about is that there are not enough managers and workers for their hypothetical future grandchild's restaurant.
The happiness and well being of ordinary citizens and their families are not their priority and of course, they are not pumping in their personal money for the baby creation programme.
I started a thread about this before.

http://singsupplies.com/showthread....ot-About-Your-Future-Grandchild-s-Restauarant

Throw the ball back into their elitist, arrogant, umempathetic court.
If they want to continue managing the country this way, their hypothetical future great great grandchildren may have to find a new country, let alone have enough people to run their restaurant.
Don't be afraid and start worrying with them what if this and what if that.

Mai kaisu, kaisee, kaiboh (babies), kaibor, kaichenghu.
 
The gahment have been pumping more monies, more incentives to get more people to get married and get more kids. I say enough is enough. Who is going to pay for this and why should these group of people get priority?? Are the rest of us supposed to pay more taxes, work longer to pay for these programs??
Without kids, who is going to buy your hdb flat or private condos in future? Who is going to maintain the exchange rate of sgd when you are retired? Who is going to help co-pay public goods like roads, security, healthcare etc?
 
My point is that dont make everyone pay for this. I am not interested in whether the current or néw generations have more kids or not. I already raised mine with no help from anyone! Now I am thinking of retiring and I don't want to pay for some selfish strangers to have babies. Heck! I wouldn't pay my kids to have babies what more strangers!
You sure you raised yours without help from others? Did you pay full hospital charges for delivery? How much school fees you paid for your kids? How about cheap healthcare back in the good old days? How much income tax you paid in the past as compared to what people are paying now? Last time no gst, now even milk powder and delivery also charge 7% gst, so how to account for this? Last time hdb flat only 3x of average annual household income, now at 10x. Cars too.

After you enjoyed both direct and indirect benefits in the past, now you want to pull the rug for future generation of parents and kids :rolleyes:
 
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You sure you raised yours without help from others? Did you pay full hospital charges for delivery? How much school fees you paid for your kids? How about cheap healthcare back in the good old days? How much income tax you paid in the past as compared to what people are paying now? Last time no gst, now even milk powder and delivery also charge 7% gst, so how to account for this? Last time hdb flat only 3x of average annual household income, now at 10x. Cars too.

After you enjoyed both direct and indirect benefits in the past, now you want to pull the rug for future generation of parents and kids :rolleyes:

Don't understand your point?? When I was schooling, I had to walk to school. Is it my fault now that u need a school bus to bring u 2 school and back!!My fault that I had no TV and had to watch at community centre??
 
Don't understand your point?? When I was schooling, I had to walk to school. Is it my fault now that u need a school bus to bring u 2 school and back!!My fault that I had no TV and had to watch at community centre??
You know my points exactly, don't twist my words. Your master ask you to prep the ground for no new measures to improve birthdate? So now only solution is to continue open door wide to foreign workers?

Or you are that shortsighted to not know the implication if there are so few kids to continue propping up the value of your retirement funds and assets? You think you are subsidizing the kids? More like today's kids will be subsidizing you in future.
 
You know my points exactly, don't twist my words. Your master ask you to prep the ground for no new measures to improve birthdate? So now only solution is to continue open door wide to foreign workers?

Or you are that shortsighted to not know the implication if there are so few kids to continue propping up the value of your retirement funds and assets? You think you are subsidizing the kids? More like today's kids will be subsidizing you in future.

Let me get this point to u. I don't need anybody to help or subsidize me. Never did in the past and I will be damned if I need to for the future. That's the difference between my gen and yours.
 
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