Does anyone know how ISD agents work?

[scroobal]

Good assessment.

After all your fuckups with strategic and UFO theories, for once I agree with you. Ram is one suspicious character. He was with police and NTUC and YPAP and yet also WP. No sign of any ambition to be candidate or taking position against anyside, just friendly to everybody on everyside. Sometimes, he just Houdinied.Let's take two extremes as example. Has anybody here heard him being critical against PAP? No, sometimes he even defend PAP. Has anybody here heard him being critical against SDP? No, sometimes he even defend SDP.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Scroo

As u stated , better the honeypot you know and bait and occasionally arrest when they protest then the honey pot u do not. The smart ones know to stay way from it and or keep a low profile , or self radicalize in small groups away from the main stream protestors. The quiet ones hanging around the edges are a greater potential threat then the loud ones getting arrested


Locke

The majority are there to look after the country. Even they wonder why a certain politician or a party seem to benefit the PAP than the opposition cause but they rather keep to themselves.

 

[Forvendet]

Locke is another suspicious character, probably in cohort with Ram. If I recall correctly from past postings, Locke was also in government service before joining WP, somewhere like EDB or something.

 

[scroobal]

Talking about honeypots. Here are 2 good examples how this Govt thinks and works. Religion, language or IQ are usually present in the dissenting lot. The building of nice mosques organised by the Govt addressed the religion part and then the ingenious part - SAP schools. You covered language and IQ. All you needed to do was pick 10 good principles and rest is easy? That is why RI continues to be source of concern.

Dear Scroo As u stated , better the honeypot you know and bait and occasionally arrest when they protest then the honey pot u do not. The smart ones know to stay way from it and or keep a low profile , or self radicalize in small groups away from the main stream protestors. The quiet ones hanging around the edges are a greater potential threat then the loud ones getting arrestedLocke

 

[Trout]

Your friend's surname starts with kh..?

I have two other friends who confided they are also recently befriended (and for one wooed) by friendly people whom they know little about.

 

[Trout]

Your inbox is full eh. Got some stuff to PM you about, regarding breeder pods. :P

Good assessment.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Ouch, that is inter-service rivalry gone awry, also not helped by one bit the operative in question got his loyalties and ambition mixed up. This is all about face and not operational capabilities and requirements.

To score political points, SID even had someone involved in GE many years ago. ISD vs SID similar to CIA vs FBI. My hunch is that the Israeli secret services, due to obvious reasons, compliment each other more than compete - Mossad, Shin Bet etc.

 

[GoldenDragon]

I am the counter-intelligent agent, if you want to put it that way.

That is why I am in NSP, if you know what I mean.

Goh Meng Seng

I will be brutally honest with you, GMS - I don't trust you!

Your background fits in perfectly. University grads and businessmen combo? Grads tend to go further in opposition politics. Will be placed in more strategic positions and have access to sensitive info. Businessmen have flexibility with time to attend to 'errands' directed by your handler, aka Agent Handling Officer (AHO). Your biz need not be profitable. It is ONLY a front for you.

Last but not least, changing political parties like changing underwear.

Look around. Who were the people with JBJ? People who constantly switch parties. Got the hint, GMS? It takes a thief to catch another thief.

If I am left with only $100 to survive, I will wager $88 bet you were compromised 2 decades ago. The balance $12 is for me to buy my packet of cigarette. Why 2 decades ago? Why don't you offer us the answer.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

I will be brutally honest with you, GMS - I don't trust you!

Goh Meng Seng is a 2nd class upper economics from NUS. Everyone knows he has two unprofitable computer shops, has always been politically active, and now resides in Hong Kong. Apart from that, he is like a black box. We know he displays cliquish behaviour, keeping a tiny group of close friends (about 5 to 7 people), having second facebook account for his closet confidants, and keeping everyone else at arms length. Even former WP candidates who contested with him are not in his inner circle.

Your guess is as good as mine. But I do feel he is nothing more than a slippery eel.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Goh Meng Seng is a 2nd class upper economics from NUS. Everyone knows he has two unprofitable computer shops, has always been politically active, and now resides in Hong Kong. Apart from that, he is like a black box. We know he displays cliquish behaviour, keeping a tiny group of close friends (about 5 to 7 people), having second facebook account for his closet confidants, and keeping everyone else at arms length. Even former WP candidates who contested with him are not in his inner circle.

Your guess is as good as mine. But I do feel he is nothing more than a slippery eel.

We will wait for our learned bro to respond. I am sure he will.

GMS: kin leh!

 

[scroobal]

If that was the case, he would have been sacked for leaving the WP CEC. No point going to NSP as it is already covered from head to toe. This guy is committed to politics and very stubborn on principles.

However his background is actually very ideal. His family background, SAP, own business etc. There is no doubt that he was approached I am sure there is contact and he does citizen related assistance.

I will be brutally honest with you, GMS - I don't trust you!

Your background fits in perfectly. University grads and businessmen combo? Grads tend to go further in opposition politics. Will be placed in more strategic positions and have access to sensitive info. Businessmen have flexibility with time to attend to 'errands' directed by your handler, aka Agent Handling Officer (AHO). Your biz need not be profitable. It is ONLY a front for you.

Last but not least, changing political parties like changing underwear.

Look around. Who were the people with JBJ? People who constantly switch parties. Got the hint, GMS? It takes a thief to catch another thief.

If I am left with only $100 to survive, I will wager $88 bet you were compromised 2 decades ago. The balance $12 is for me to buy my packet of cigarette. Why 2 decades ago? Why don't you offer us the answer.

 

[GoldenDragon]

No point going to NSP as it is already covered from head to toe.

Maybe, the more the merrier? Can always use him to check on others like him in NSP and vice versa. Hard to get someone like him to resign coz no place to go. Budget never a problem. Just continue to feed him and deploy him sensibly at a later date.

Didn't he indicate to us some NGO he was heading to? NGOs are entities of interest. See how CSJ get himself so religiously involved?

 

[eatshitndie]

in case you guys forgot, do you remember the cypher clerk in the sg embassy in moscow who was convicted under the osa for colluding with the kgb? he got a maximum of 10 years. at least he banged a swallow while the whole shhbang was recorded in an adjoining room with a one way mirror. he should be out of jail a long time ago, and is he here in sbf? it's ok. not gonna ask you for the cypher keys like the swallow did. just want your side of the story when you were banging her. was she worth it? she was highly trained and probably didn't feel a thang.

 

[GoldenDragon]

in case you guys forgot, do you remember the cypher clerk in the sg embassy in moscow who was convicted under the osa for colluding with the kgb? he got a maximum of 10 years. at least he banged a swallow while the whole shhbang was recorded in an adjoining room with a one way mirror. he should be out of jail a long time ago, and is he here in sbf? it's ok. not gonna ask you for the cypher keys like the swallow did. just want your side of the story when you were banging her. was she worth it? she was highly trained and probably didn't feel a thang.

Bro, while I am not the chap, I opine the fucks weren't worth it. Plenty of Russian gals to fuck, even in S'pore. No need to go to jail. Wonder if that chap is still alive today.

 

[scroobal]

Excellent point.

NGOs are entities of interest. See how CSJ get himself so religiously involved?

 

[eatshitndie]

Bro, while I am not the chap, I opine the fucks weren't worth it. Plenty of Russian gals to fuck, even in S'pore. No need to go to jail. Wonder if that chap is still alive today.

wish he shows up here as a disgruntled former employee of mfa. and tell his side of the story. if you remember addis ababa as alibaba and khartoum as cartoon, i know who you are. that trash talk under the sun in the courtyard in the unknown of unknowns still resonates with me.

 

[scroobal]

The guy in question is one frail and meek bugger. The Allan Wee case was another intelligence blunder. He spilled the beans after he was arrested for smuggling contraband out of Russia. The bloody swallow just phoned his house and she scored. No need elaborate setup. Can you imagine a cypher clerk compromised by a 10 cent phone call. How the fact was he trained.

in case you guys forgot, do you remember the cypher clerk in the sg embassy in moscow who was convicted under the osa for colluding with the kgb? he got a maximum of 10 years. at least he banged a swallow while the whole shhbang was recorded in an adjoining room with a one way mirror. he should be out of jail a long time ago, and is he here in sbf? it's ok. not gonna ask you for the cypher keys like the swallow did. just want your side of the story when you were banging her. was she worth it? she was highly trained and probably didn't feel a thang.

 

[steffychun]

ISD, SID...so Goh and Scrobal answer a quick or long question: Why are the Ng Chee Brothers valued so highly that they occupy top spots in the Spy-military complex?

Eldest: Ng Chee Khern: former RSAF head now SID chief. Unusual, considering SID chief is usually a lousy BG who can never be MG or LG.

Ng Chee Meng: Took over brother as RSAF Chief. Possibly the next CDF since he's the most senior of the chiefs.

Ng Chee Peng: RSN Chief.

(one wonders why none of the 3 were in the army.)

 

[Seee3]

I will be brutally honest with you, GMS - I don't trust you!

Your background fits in perfectly. University grads and businessmen combo? Grads tend to go further in opposition politics. Will be placed in more strategic positions and have access to sensitive info. Businessmen have flexibility with time to attend to 'errands' directed by your handler, aka Agent Handling Officer (AHO). Your biz need not be profitable. It is ONLY a front for you.

Last but not least, changing political parties like changing underwear.

Look around. Who were the people with JBJ? People who constantly switch parties. Got the hint, GMS? It takes a thief to catch another thief.

If I am left with only $100 to survive, I will wager $88 bet you were compromised 2 decades ago. The balance $12 is for me to buy my packet of cigarette. Why 2 decades ago? Why don't you offer us the answer.

hehehe... allow me to add one more point. They have foreigner as wife so that it is easier to keep secret and chao law when forced to.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear Golden Dragon,

The guys in ISD must be laughing to death when they read this. BTW, who are you betting with? Don't lose your $88 that easily!

It is good that you don't trust politicians like me. I don't trust 100% almost all of them.

I am known right from secondary school as a rebel, even when I am the Chairman of the Student Council. Socialist inclined (yes, they called it leftist) and by second year in NUS, I was told how thick my ISD file is. By the time I am just an ordinary WP member, I have been tapped, followed etc.

You are actually half right. Choosing the path of being a businessman is for the flexibility of time. But that's not for running ISD errands but rather for political activities. It is strange that I have only changed once my political party and you claim that I change like underwear! Chiam ST has also changed party once, so what? Scroobal is right, it is a matter of principles to me.

Scroobal is right as well, if I am really going for another "mission", NSP would be the last choice!

But Scroobal has made a mistake here. I will be the last one whom ISD would approach for "cooperation" because I am considered "hardcore" rebel. The only subtle attempt is to try to persuade me to "work from within PAP" to change it but I have brushed it off immediately.

Compromised 2 decades ago? You must be kidding! 2 decades ago, they were just beginning to collect data on me and putting up an impressive files on me!

Now, I am more interested in counter-intelligence and I have made lives quite difficult for some. Only agents who want to sneak into my network will find difficulties in doing so. Thus, for those who told you that I have two FB accounts and kept one private, most likely he is one of the agents who have been unsuccessful in getting in. Hey, that is PRIVATE FB for PRIVATE FRIENDS only!


Goh Meng Seng

I will be brutally honest with you, GMS - I don't trust you!

Your background fits in perfectly. University grads and businessmen combo? Grads tend to go further in opposition politics. Will be placed in more strategic positions and have access to sensitive info. Businessmen have flexibility with time to attend to 'errands' directed by your handler, aka Agent Handling Officer (AHO). Your biz need not be profitable. It is ONLY a front for you.

Last but not least, changing political parties like changing underwear.

Look around. Who were the people with JBJ? People who constantly switch parties. Got the hint, GMS? It takes a thief to catch another thief.

If I am left with only $100 to survive, I will wager $88 bet you were compromised 2 decades ago. The balance $12 is for me to buy my packet of cigarette. Why 2 decades ago? Why don't you offer us the answer.