The PAP trained us to be sheeps ...and it has been very successful.
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COI: Aloysius Pang up lorry because he and 2 other SAF boys COCK UP! SAF Chiak Sai! Jiak Liao Bee! Kill self instead of Enemy!
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The PAP trained us to be sheeps ...and it has been very successful.
Do you believe that no one benefits from our huge arms purchase?
Well spoken, PM Emeritus.
Wow, you must be a tangkee who could talk to the dead! Seriously.,i will not have confidence in you as my doctor. You form your conclusions just by hearsay. I think that also explains why you run road to canada. A sinkie failed doctor who had to seek a new start in canada! See, i'm better than you. I can piece together a more convincing story than you, with more solid evidence!
The hanging needs to go further up. If the performance requirement was set at an unrealistic level, those on the ground will cut corners to meet them. COI never bothered to comment on that. The COI should have examined if there was other reason - besides blaming them - for the crew to ignore SOP to fix the gun.
If we keep moving on, instead of hanging the guilty (the dead can't be hanged) upper echelon, we will never progress.
Why no investigation of the upper echelon? COI just focus on the ground crew ...what was the trigger that got them to flout SOP?
Someone up there does not want to be accountable.
The people who needs to wake up are up there ...not the ground troops.
Why do you assume that the doctor's version is correct? Yes, they ignore SOP. But why? Pang went in to start the repair. Why did he go in first? The doctor said he was fooling around? Based on hearsay.
It looks more like they were trying to get the repair done asap ...the COI could have shed light on the performance requirement for repair. They did not. Why?
I don't think our reservists are so dumb to risk themselves unnecessarily, especially for a person who was having a good career.
Until there is evidence, let the dead rest in peace, instead of levelling unfounded allegations. Go with the fact based on the COI findings, even though I am sure lots of fact has been brushed aside to lay blame on the sheeps.
SAF cannot handle weapons! Killed only ourselves! Can kill enemy my foot!
https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/a...apses-all-three-servicemen-howitzer-cabin-coi
Aloysius Pang's death due to lapses of all three servicemen in Howitzer cabin: COI
Aloysius Pang's death on Jan 23 was the fourth reported since September 2017, following four preceding years of zero fatalities related to training and operations in the Singapore Armed Forces.
PHOTO: Facebook/Aloysius Pang
Lim Min Zhang
The Straits Times
May 06, 2019
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SINGAPORE - Only three soldiers, including the late Singapore actor Aloysius Pang, were present in the cabin of an artillery gun that was being rectified on Jan 19 this year, and each of them committed safety lapses that eventually led to his death, an independent Committee of Inquiry has found.
Among the breaches committed by the three of them, including the gun commander and a regular technician, was the failure to follow a strict requirement that everyone must be in safe positions during the movement of the gun barrel.
The regular technician also did not ensure the gun barrel was locked before starting the maintenance work of replacing the interface card found in the cabin.
Revealing the findings of the COI in Parliament on Monday (May 6), Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said: "It is sad but undeniable that the direct cause determined by the COI that resulted in the death of CFC (NS) Pang was preventable had there been compliance to safety rules.
"It was not for lack of knowledge of these rules or inexperience of personnel working on the SSPH (Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer) gun."
The five-member COI, chaired by a State Courts-nominated judge, was set up on Jan 25 to investigate the circumstances of Corporal First Class (NS) Pang's death after he sustained serious injury during a live firing exercise called Thunder Warrior in New Zealand.
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His death on Jan 23 was the fourth reported since September 2017, following four preceding years of zero fatalities related to training and operations in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF).
It had sparked a public outpouring of grief, and led to renewed criticism about training safety in the SAF.
Giving fresh details into the incident, Dr Ng said that when CFC (NS) Pang, 28, was asked to move out of the way of a gun barrel inside the SSPH, he declined and said that it would not hit him.
The gun commander saw that the actor, who was an armament technician on reservist duty, was still in its way but continued to lower the gun barrel, flouting safety rules.
CFC (NS) Pang initially made no attempt to move away, but started making some evasive movements as the barrel moved closer to him. The regular technician was shocked to see him still in the path of the gun, said Dr Ng.
When the barrel began to make contact with CFC (NS) Pang, the gun commander and a regular technician responded irrationally instead of pressing the emergency stop buttons.
The regular technician tried to stop the barrel with his hands, while the gun commander tried to do so using the main control screen, but their actions did not stop CFC (NS) Pang from being wedged between the barrel and cabin's interior.
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Although the gun commander with the rank of Third Sergeant had shouted "standby, clear away" and the regular technician had told CFC (NS) Pang to move away, both of them did not ensure that he was in a safe position before lowering the barrel.
The regular technician, who had been in service for more than 16 years, with eight years of working experience on the SSPH, also did not ensure that the gun barrel was in a locked position before starting maintenance work to replace the interface card in the box he was working on with CFC (NS) Pang.
Instead, the regular technician, who held the rank of Military Expert 2, had started to dismantle the mountings on the box even though the gun barrel was not in a locked or standby position.
Other than CFC (NS) Pang, the other two servicemen were not named.
This article was first published in The Straits Times. Permission required for reproduction.
What was the performance requirement? Was that compatible with the SOP?
Aiyah sinkies all hate their drs lah. Jealous. Envious.
Yes i am happy to be sinkie failed dr. Lol! Thank goodness didnt stay in sinkieland. Haha
This is NOT Civilian business. It is about war. It is fighting live and death. You are to KILL ENEMIES and not get killed. Not for NDP show.
Then make a better weapon, so that soldiers don't get killed unnecessarily.
You are probably right about envy playing a big part in the general sentiments.
We are REMINDED everyday that you press that EMERGENCY STOP BUTTON, FINED $5,000...the commander was responding to that every day conditioning... that is why he forgot that, there was a STOP BUTTON or even there was one...oh! oh!..FINED $5,000, cant blame him, right?
And dead man can't defend his actions..so blame him..
And dead man can't defend his actions..so blame him..
This show ICT is the time to kill Sinkies while FTs say losers!
Yup. Good point! See the emergency Stop button scared to press. Taught to children everyday.
Only dont press if you want to die.
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