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City Harvest Church under investigation
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They said the same thing about NKF and Ren Ci. Now they are quiet. One must not be blind, deaf and dumb. Which god ask for donations and a series of condominiums acquired on these donations. Young impressionable chinese adults from HDB flats donate their earned savings and think that every penny goes to church buildings funds and church maintenence for the sake of their god.
I did not mean shutting oneself out from alternate information but since the authorities are looking into it, one can just wait for the authorities to take action against them. There is not a need to further come up with claims.
God rewards pastor and instead pastor turns sick after rewarding himself too excessively. to cure him, God takes back the reward.
How do you know that your fellow church goers are not praying to strike lottery?neber heard of people gathered in church to pray for strike lottery...
if not temples will lose alot of business..
Can you hear their silent prayer?
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The Greeks call it "hubris", when you overreach who you really are with overbearing arrogance, when you're out of touch with reality and overestimate your own competence or capabilities, especially for people in positions of power.
Don't try to teach God how to be God. In Kong Hee's case, never teach what God's never intended to be in the bible
Stupid xtians like TeeKee can only see 2 sides to every story. It is ingrained: With God or against god. Light or Darkness. Goodness or Evil.
But is life and its issues so readily and easily differentiated?
So many honorable charitable and kind folks do not believe in his God. Does this mean all of them are evil and pawns of Satan?
We are all obviously waiting for the authorities to complete the investigation. I don't think anyone of us are in position to take action or determine the outcome. That should be obvious even to a child.
What do you want us to do? Keep silent, keep our views to ourselves, apply for permit from you to air our opinions and views.
Are you some kind of imbecile or you honesty thought we we conducting a trial of our own and the outcome will impact the Church.
What claims are you talking about?
What do you want us to do? Keep silent, keep our views to ourselves, apply for permit from you to air our opinions and views.
Are you some kind of imbecile or you honesty thought we we conducting a trial of our own and the outcome will impact the Church.
What claims are you talking about?
I am SO HAPPY that COC & CAD held a press conference yesterday to announce that investigations has begun.
You think these people just acted on a whim or crank emails or responded to forummers quips ? That may be a start, but some preliminary due dilligence must have been done & implications weighed & high authority consulted before the green light is given.
Proverbial 'no smoke without fire'. So spare us all the 'don't comment until investigations completed' crap.
How else can you explain dramatic 6.30am swops on homes & offices to collect probable evidence ? Sure, ' don't be alarmed, services as usual, this is only to investigation old old transactions' ha ha.
I see the following likely outcomes:-
(1) Nobody charged - just some advice on being more careful in future regarding governance in areas of forming companies with peopple & funds related or originating from the church. High profile PR to show Govt firm & fair, no fear or favour .... Kong Hee thank Govt for wisdom - said he 'too busy & have overlooked' all these past transgressions. (sounds familiar?)
(2) at end of investigation, Kong Hee shaken but not broken. All the fall guys like that Chew guy & other trustees or ex-Board Members fae the music for CBT & for conflict of interest in related parties transactions which proved siphoning of funds from the church
(2) Kong Hee implicated as the can of worms is slowly being prised open.
Past practices. Church planting funds outflow then back to individual's pockets as speaker payments investigated. Buuilding Fund & Suntec Venture closely dissected & scrutinised. In a fit, Kong Hee - uproot & settle in LA where his wife & son are already based. CHC to be headquartered elsewhere & CHC members to attend online services on now on....
P.S. anyone knows if Kong Hee had served NS ? All I know is his father is rich Indonesian Chinese & that Kong Hee is an RI boy who graduated from NUS School of Computing.
Churchgoers surprised
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CITY Harvest members were taken by surprise when news that the police were investigating alleged misuse of church funds broke yesterday afternoon.
Media reports of the breaking news quickly led to a flurry of online chatter, including updates on blogs and social networking site Facebook, as well as frequent Twitter updates.
Most of the messages expressed shock at the news of the probe and most said they would pray for the church and its leaders through this 'difficult period'.
Undergraduate Teo Chin Ghee, 21, who has attended the church for the last four years, said she 'never expected' such a probe would take place.
'I trust the leadership of the church. I think they're as transparent as they can be (regarding finances),' she said.
Dr David Lam, 53, a general practitioner who has attended the church for nine years, added that he had absolute confidence in the church's leadership.
You think these people just acted on a whim or crank emails or responded to forummers quips ? That may be a start, but some preliminary due dilligence must have been done & implications weighed & high authority consulted before the green light is given.
Proverbial 'no smoke without fire'. So spare us all the 'don't comment until investigations completed' crap.
How else can you explain dramatic 6.30am swops on homes & offices to collect probable evidence ? Sure, ' don't be alarmed, services as usual, this is only to investigation old old transactions' ha ha.
I see the following likely outcomes:-
(1) Nobody charged - just some advice on being more careful in future regarding governance in areas of forming companies with peopple & funds related or originating from the church. High profile PR to show Govt firm & fair, no fear or favour .... Kong Hee thank Govt for wisdom - said he 'too busy & have overlooked' all these past transgressions. (sounds familiar?)
(2) at end of investigation, Kong Hee shaken but not broken. All the fall guys like that Chew guy & other trustees or ex-Board Members fae the music for CBT & for conflict of interest in related parties transactions which proved siphoning of funds from the church
(2) Kong Hee implicated as the can of worms is slowly being prised open.
Past practices. Church planting funds outflow then back to individual's pockets as speaker payments investigated. Buuilding Fund & Suntec Venture closely dissected & scrutinised. In a fit, Kong Hee - uproot & settle in LA where his wife & son are already based. CHC to be headquartered elsewhere & CHC members to attend online services on now on....
P.S. anyone knows if Kong Hee had served NS ? All I know is his father is rich Indonesian Chinese & that Kong Hee is an RI boy who graduated from NUS School of Computing.
Churchgoers surprised
<!-- by line --> By Liew Hanqing & Carolyn Quek
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CITY Harvest members were taken by surprise when news that the police were investigating alleged misuse of church funds broke yesterday afternoon.
Media reports of the breaking news quickly led to a flurry of online chatter, including updates on blogs and social networking site Facebook, as well as frequent Twitter updates.
Most of the messages expressed shock at the news of the probe and most said they would pray for the church and its leaders through this 'difficult period'.
Undergraduate Teo Chin Ghee, 21, who has attended the church for the last four years, said she 'never expected' such a probe would take place.
'I trust the leadership of the church. I think they're as transparent as they can be (regarding finances),' she said.
Dr David Lam, 53, a general practitioner who has attended the church for nine years, added that he had absolute confidence in the church's leadership.
agree, housekeeping must use some brains .... although technically about religion but it is very TOPICAL & HOT now ! why end up in ulu 'daily scripture reading' folder ?This is crap, why move this thread to this section?
Comparing the size of both establishment, Mingyi's case is probably just a warm up for CAD. This is the real test for them.
Yah lor, why move har?
This is not exactly religious issue leh, it is about crime/fraud?
This is not exactly religious issue leh, it is about crime/fraud?
This is crap, why move this thread to this section?
Absolutely agree. One more thing - God created life whereas Satan didn't. We must also acknowledge that free will makes life on earth more meaningful than having giant blue hands move us around like moving chess pieces.
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