Anti-semitic rising in SG due to Arab FTrash

[johnny333]

Back to the thread. If, indeed, there were an increase in anti-semitism in Singapore, I'd be very very sad, and worried, not because I think Jewish people are special or chosen, but because it means the harmony I once knew is gone. I remember attending a Shia wedding here in Singapore at which some Jewish people were esteemed guests. I hope to be able to see something like that again.

I go to Isaacs, one of the longest established opticians in Spore. Been going there since they had a shop at the old arcade.

I highly recommend them

 

[HTOLAS]

Jewish people took to usury because:

• They were prevented from owning land in most of Europe and therefore could not generate wealth in that way.
• They were also excluded from most employment.
• Usury was a niché business which Christian Europeans and Muslim Turks were forbidden from indulging in.

And as someone else noted, it was the Chettiars, not the Sikhs, who were the money-lenders. It is easy to see them as "notorious" but most of the time, they provided a useful service for willing borrowers. They weren't quite the Ah Longs of today.

1) Jews are no different to any other member of the human. Physically they have no special endowment. In essence they are not born intelligent or stupid just like any other race.

5) The Jews fortunately or unfortunately have taken to money lending or usury and dealing with highly liquid instruments such as diamonds in whatever country they are found. Money lending is never a noble vocation where ever it is done and by whoever does it. The Sikhs are also notorious for money lending.

 

[Rogue Trader]

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Outstanding reply. Glad to see this madhouse forum has some intelligence left. It is hardwired in every living being's instinct to be racist against other species. Our ancestors survived by being territorial and tribal.

However I would argue it were actually the ancient Indians who came up with the concept of zero. Also interesting is the fact that the ancient Middle Easterners came up with the base 60 (hour/minute/second) measurement system. They used the 12 phalanxes of the index to little fingers on one hand to multiply against the 5 fingers of the other. The based 60 counting system also paved the way to trigonometry.

The ancients are more intelligent than what we give them credit for. The regrettable part is the knowledge was not transferred effectively back then.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

How to identify a Jew? There's no wordings on their heads nor david stars on their shirts.

Enough sufferings for Jews people, enough sufferings for Palestinians. Whoever ignite the hatres here should be deported.

Jews orginate from the middle east. They are a semitic ppl. Some of them do look like arabs after all they are closely related. Do note that many jews are mixed with european and some have changed their jewish surnames to sound more european. Jewish ppl follow their lineage thru their mothers. It has something to do with mitochondrial DNA that is only passed by the females to their offspring but i'm not too sure about that.


The stereotypical semitic look are long hooked nose especially resembling the beak of a vulture. Pure europeans don't really have that distinct a nose. In fact some of them have noses the same size as chinese ppl and look like chinese with blond hair. Some of them have very curly hair and some arabs have that too. They don't have blond hair or blue eyes but due to mixture with white europeans many jews are able to blend into the ang moh majority populations.

Some famous celebs that look very semitic are Howard stern, jeff goldblum. Jewish surnames tend to have the word berg behind it. If not it has a color in it. Like tom green for eg.

There are jews that are extremely religious that are dressed in their religious garb, very distinct. Also extremist jews called zionists.

Lastly ppl that are considered "white" or european must have almost 80% ancestry from a european country that includes european russia. Ppl that come from turkey for eg that is half in europe, half in asia are not considered ang moh. Israel is in asia too.

 

[Debonerman]

Outstanding reply. Glad to see this madhouse forum has some intelligence left. It is hardwired in every living being's instinct to be racist against other species. Our ancestors survived by being territorial and tribal.

However I would argue it were actually the ancient Indians who came up with the concept of zero. Also interesting is the fact that the ancient Middle Easterners came up with the base 60 (hour/minute/second) measurement system. They used the 12 phalanxes of the index to little fingers on one hand to multiply against the 5 fingers of the other. The based 60 counting system also paved the way to trigonometry.

The ancients are more intelligent than what we give them credit for. The regrettable part is the knowledge was not transferred effectively back then.

Something called Islam got in the way...........

 

[scroobal]

Its a point but there is a reason why they were not allowed to own land. while others could. Their usury vocation was long before such discrimination occurred. It should also be noted that Jews did finance the wars between various sovereign's over much of the medieval time. Shakespeare Shylock is there for a purpose. Jews continue to loan money outside the money market and till today the disowned scions of European Royalty and the landed resort to them for money that financial institution will not loan. The law requires debt to written off within 150 to 180 in most countries in the world. Jews and certain individuals will continue to carry life debts. Your neighbourhood along has the same approach.

Chettiars licensed under the Moneylenders Act and could not surcharge and must follows the rules. Evey Chettiar has a registered office and Market street was well known for it. Sikhs chose not to be licensed in order to apply the higher rates and not to keep the appropriate books for taxation. Anyone who grew up in Malaysia and Singapore would know that Sikhs money lenders could be found in every nook and corner. On the other Chettiars are not well known as they would not lend to an unemployed individual without seeing assets and all business except collection is done at his desk.

Parsis who are Zoroastrians however are well known for their generous philanthropy. They too are a minority and have very similar practices as Jews and Sikhs particularly parochialism but they are revered in their host country for their business acumen and generosity. It was a Parsi in Singapore that paid for Mistri Wing for the Children in SGH even though most people have not heard of it because they have kept a low profile. They are probably the most welcome of all migrants by most host countries. Unfortunately their gene pool is small and they are basically dying out.

In essence, it is what you do that attracts the type of attention that one receives. It has nothing to do with one's race but the cultural practices that one adopts. Jewism and Sikhism are not an individual race unlike Chinese and Causcasians. Jews are of the same stock as the Arabs who are semites and Sikhs are Punjabi in the main. It was religion and parochial practices and their desire not integrate but to stand apart that has allowed them to be regarded as a race.

The world will be a better place if people decide to do what is right and not what their culture or religion calls for. Islam is now in the limelight and will continue to be in the limelight in view of wayward religious leaders and misguided souls. Caste system remains integrated as Hinduism has allowed it and millions remain disenfranchised. New Age churches are no different for fleecing millions.

The common thread where problem lies has nothing do with race but with religion and culture. We are all made of same blood and bones but we pick up terrible practices.

Jewish people took to usury because:

• They were prevented from owning land in most of Europe and therefore could not generate wealth in that way.
• They were also excluded from most employment.
• Usury was a niché business which Christian Europeans and Muslim Turks were forbidden from indulging in.

And as someone else noted, it was the Chettiars, not the Sikhs, who were the money-lenders. It is easy to see them as "notorious" but most of the time, they provided a useful service for willing borrowers. They weren't quite the Ah Longs of today.

 

[HTOLAS]

Please read my earlier post. The Islamic peoples were the ones who systematically revived and improved on Greek and Roman learning at a time when fervently Christian Europe abandoned such learning as pagan. It was also the Islamic peoples who developed what we now called science and mathematics. Words like 'alcohol' and 'alkali' have arabic origins. Note the 'al' prefix as in 'Alsagoff' and 'Aljunied'.

Am I saying that the versions of Islam practised by the Jihadists or the mad mullahs around the world encourage learning and scholarship? Of course not. Indeed, they are closer to the medieval Europeans who had their worlds closed off by the Church of the time.

I'm just urging everyone not to only gaze through the window of our immediate experience but to look beyond that. I share the opinion that the clash is not between Islam and/or Judaism and/or Christianity. It is between the moderates of all these faiths and the extremists of all these faiths.

Something called Islam got in the way...........

 

[Lee5604]

However I would argue it were actually the ancient Indians who came up with the concept of zero.

From what I understand, the Mayas were the first to invent the number zero.

 

[Glaringly]

Just curious.

When people begin to count, how can they lived without the concept of Zero? How do they express it when they have nothing?

Don't you think it's odd?

 

[Debonerman]

Zero? How do they express it when they have nothing?

 

[GoldenDragon]

However I would argue it were actually the ancient Indians who came up with the concept of zero.

From what I understand, the Mayas were the first to invent the number zero.

The Mayas were stupid. The merely invented the number zero. Our MIW more intelligent. They placed many zeros in their pay cheques. Invention is one thing. Exploiting such invention is another. MIW vs Mayas? MIW win.

 

[Rogue Trader]

From what I understand, the Mayas were the first to invent the number zero.

If that were so, they didn't pass that knowledge on to anyone. The spanish conquistadors wiped out the Aztec, Incan and Mayan civilisations with european steel and diseases. All in the name of their christian god.

 

[Ramseth]

Although Chinese have always been regarded as good in maths, Chinese didn't invent zero. Chinese numerals start from one if you look at the set of Chinese characters. The Chinese character standing for zero is assigned later phonetically. Chinese maths and even trigonometry without zero was good enough for counting and measuring almost everything in the ancient and medieval world. Architecture and shipbuilding were not problems. However, it was limited to fraction and lacked the precision of decimalisation that zero introduced, crucial to modern maths and techs. However, once the Chinese realised that, the zero and decimalisation was quickly learned and integrated into Chinese maths. From most accounts, I think the Indians invented zero. It might be natural to their nature, start counting from zero instead of one.

 

[Rogue Trader]

Invention is one thing. Exploiting such invention is another.

Haha. so true. Application of knowledge is the key to success.

 

[HTOLAS]

It is interesting, isn't it? It is not the case that people did not have a concept of 'zero', it is just that they did not represent it in a mathematical symbol. The Romans represented a decimal system in terms of how they relate to the 5th (V), 10th (X), 50th (L), 100th (C) and 1000th (M) numeral.

Such systems worked but as Monty Python might have said, you can't do long division, or calculate the value of ∏, or other cool things like that.

Also, the Arabs were indeed not the inventors of the mathematical symbol '0'. The Mayans developed something like that earlier, and the Indians certainly had a numeral system very close to what we use today. The Arabs contribution is in applying what the Indians had invented to Greek and Roman knowledge with the view of improving that knowledge.

Just curious.

When people begin to count, how can they lived without the concept of Zero? How do they express it when they have nothing?

Don't you think it's odd?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Haha. so true. Application of knowledge is the key to success.

Rogue Trader: I tried to copy cat the PAP by writing many zeros to my pay cheque but my boss found out and I got the sack. Sack, not because I added the zeros. Sacked, because he said I had infringed PAP's patent registered with the Intellectual Property Office of S'pore.

 

[Ramseth]

Rogue Trader: I tried to copy cat the PAP by writing many zeros to my pay cheque but my boss found out and I got the sack. Sack, not because I added the zeros. Sacked, because he said I had infringed PAP's patent registered with the Intellectual Property Office of S'pore.

Sacked because you're too greedy and added too many zeros. The cheque bounced and you got found out. :p

 

[GoldenDragon]

Sacked because you're too greedy and added too many zeros. The cheque bounced and you got found out. :p

Aiyoh, Ramseth, you are wrong again. I wrote all the zeros in front!!! Bank told me they dont have that much to pay me.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Although Chinese have always been regarded as good in maths, Chinese didn't invent zero. Chinese numerals start from one if you look at the set of Chinese characters. The Chinese character standing for zero is assigned later phonetically. Chinese maths and even trigonometry without zero was good enough for counting and measuring almost everything in the ancient and medieval world. Architecture and shipbuilding were not problems. However, it was limited to fraction and lacked the precision of decimalisation that zero introduced, crucial to modern maths and techs. However, once the Chinese realised that, the zero and decimalisation was quickly learned and integrated into Chinese maths. From most accounts, I think the Indians invented zero. It might be natural to their nature, start counting from zero instead of one.

you dumb piece of shit why bring chinese ppl here into the equation to insult them? :oIo:

Kelings didn't invent 0 lah. The arabs did.

In future i'll always bring in your name to humiliate you even when the thread doesn't involve you.

 

[Cranial Blowout]

Oy Vey

Are Jews like Freemasons?

In my opinion, the number of Jews that were killed is exaggerated. The Jewish prophecy is that if six millions Jews die, they will inherit the Promise Land (Israel). Approximately three hundred thousand died, mainly from starvation and disease. They are not entitled to Israel, it was stolen from the Palestinians.

Bishop Richard Williamson - Gas Chambers, Anti-Semitism and the Truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM