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Another version for NTU student.....Big Big Conspiracy at work?

rainnix

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There is one thing very strange is the speed this Indo is cremated (1 Day). If someone would post the autopsy report here would be the best.

<div><img src="http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20090302/stab2.jpg" class="borderblue" border="0"></div>

Look at the picture - His hands are bloody - are there any slash wounds on the wrists?
 
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dysentry

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These foreign students on our taxpayers money have SUB STANDARD WRITTEN ENGLISH. No wonder there is a communication problem between dead student & his lecturers. I bet their ORAL ENGLISH is even worse than their written English.

WE WANT OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY REFUNDED AS THESE STUDENTS DO NOT DESERVE TO BE GIVEN SCHOLARSHIPS IF THEY CANNOT COMMUNICATE CLEARLY IN ENGLISH!!!!!!!!

The lecturer is ah tiong who took up citizenship, you think he can speak decent English?
 

dysentry

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There is one thing very strange is the speed this Indo is cremated (1 Day). If someone would post the autopsy report here would be the best.

Look at the picture - His hands are bloody - are there any slash wounds on the wrists?

This thread is not simple.
 

popdod

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I follow your reasonings and if what you said is true, then it hinges on the motive that the professor has for attacking David.


Not my reasonings......is Indo classmate reasonings.
Me go and kop from some forum and paste here wan.

:biggrin: :o :biggrin:
 

popdod

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NTU said:
Dear Faculty, Staff and Students,


Together with the Widjaja family and about 100 students and staff, I bid farewell to David yesterday evening.
University officers continue to accompany the family and are on hand to provide help and support.
The family is flying home with David’s ashes today.


Prof Chan, is recovering well and has been discharged from hospital to recuperate at home. I spoke to him today.
He is grateful for the outpouring of support from members of the NTU community.


As police investigations are still on-going at this time, I ask that we do not speculate on what led to the tragedy,
but to focus instead on the healing and support of all those traumatised by the tragedy.

I would like to thank the university community for rallying together at this difficult time.
The crisis management team responded swiftly and the pastoral care process was activated immediately.
I was also much heartened by the offers of help received from all quarters, inside and outside the University.


Although NTU’s pastoral care structure and processes are in place with caring professionals, faculty, staff and student groups,
my sense is that we need to work harder on detecting signs of trouble and to get help to where it is needed.


Thus I have initiated a review to examine how we can better spot members of the NTU community who might need help
so that there can be timely intervention. We will do our utmost to help everyone handle the stresses that exist in any university community.
We must pull together and help each other, as family members would.


I shall keep you informed.


DR SU GUANING
PRESIDENT



President mentioned dun anyhow think stories.

:o :( :o
 

popdod

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There is one thing very strange is the speed this Indo is cremated (1 Day). If someone would post the autopsy report here would be the best.

<div><img src="http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIMEDIA/image/20090302/stab2.jpg" class="borderblue" border="0"></div>

Look at the picture - His hands are bloody - are there any slash wounds on the wrists?



Woah...you got superman supersonic eyesight.
Pigture so small oso can see no wounds.

:( :o :(
 

shelltox

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I think you may have miss one point and that is David is a avid gamers and frequently play the games pass midnight. It is a common fact that in Traditional chinese medicine , if you dont have enought sleep you body heat would rise. the liver would not be able to eliminate toxin from the body effectively. If this continues for a prolonged period it is bound to affect the mood of the person. So I am not surprised at his behaviour.
 

rainnix

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http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=17387&page=55


cl4y_m4n
Yesterday, 12:31 AM
March 5th 2009, I and some of David’s friends from elementary – senior high school visited David’s family at their home, for expressing our lament toward the tragedy and seeking the real truth. All of us (David’s friends and teachers) believed that he did not do such a crime like what media had published. When we were just arrived, there were his parents and brother welcoming us, and we discussed what had happened there.

The more we try to figure out this case, the more we found various oddities which are not disclose. Due to clarifying from David’s best friend from NTU called Edwin who already pawned his bachelor degree we would like to express our big gratitude toward him for trying to reveal the truth. Finally we would like to spread the truth story about David Hartanto , our best friend.

Several discordances:
1 Released by Media that David had attacked Professor Chan Kap Luk, then have intention to suicide by slicing his wrist , from where that the news come from. What they purpose to publish false news mentioned that David had slashed his own wrist?

2. When David’s family arrived in Singapore on Monday 2th March 2009 at night after the incident, Family wanted directly to recognize David’s cadaver however there are certain parties not allowed them. They said that it’s already the rule, so family tried to be cooperative even at the utter shocked moment. When Family had been allowed to recognize David’s cadaver after waiting for one day, nevertheless Family only can see David’s cadaver from neck until head, while others part had covered with plastic even they had asked to open the plastic and wanted to see his entire cadaver. Family had confirmed to Singapore police there is no wound on his wrist and at that time family also found there were many plaster on his front neck (neck under chin).

The question is why they have to wait for 1 day just for seeing their son’s cadaver?
Why David’s cadaver covered with plastic and not allowed to be opened? Is there any rule like that? Or just manipulation from certain parties to cover the truth?
From where wound on his neck? Why around David’s cadaver buttock had much blood? And never had been discussed by media.

3. Due to not been allowed to see David’s cadaver, Family decided to visit the spot on Monday night, however when they were there they couldn’t see any blood left or police line, it’s already been cleaned. Only within 7 hours after incident the spot had been cleaned totally. Is there any reason why they are so rapid cleaning the spot?

4. Then Family visited David’s room and they found all the computer devices still on. Does someone who intent to suicide still switches on his computer? Even David’s friend who was online witnessed David’s msn account still appeared online. Does it looks like David wanted to end his life? Even he still played online games with his friend who visited David’s family with us until 2 am at Monday morning.

5 In Professor’s room family found there was David’s bag. In his bag family found 1.5 L mineral bottle and towel.( for those who knew David , He always brings towel to school even sometimes he put his towel on his neck. He also always brings water because his mother always instructs him to consume much water.) Does someone who want to suicide will bring this kind of stuff, it would be more easy to bring merely knife which is belongs to somebody.

6 .David’s family had been prevented to meet with Professor Chan Kap Luk with reason that at that time he was still in ICU. However Professor’s condition had been stable since Tuesday and allowed to return home on Wednesday, mentioned by Singapore media. However until today I never heard his statement towards this tragedy.

7. When family intended to meet with the witness who saw David’s suicide from 4th floor, NTU not allowed with reason that this issue should be keep confidentially. So from where we know that there is someone who saw David’s suicide, not accidently falling or there someone pushed him down?

8. Data about David and his final year project had been removed from NTU data base. Within 2 days NTU directly removed David’s data and his project. Is there any special reason behind this? Why should quickly removed his data? Don’t they have any feeling to remember their brilliant and intelligent student who won International Mathematic Olympic? Seemed like David never study in NTU.

9. The knife that had been used is from 4th hall, is that the result from investigation? Or just excused? One of our friends who study at NTU said usually Professor has small knife in his office to cut fruit. The question is that knife belongs to David or Professor Chan Kap Luk?

10. The tragedy happened at 10.45 am on Monday Singapore time. Doesn’t its oddity, merely few students who witnessing the incident? Is there any demand from NTU to remain silent?

11. The tools that had been found to stab the Professor is fruit knife without handle. Where is the handle? Is it possible to stab someone using knife without handle? Who stab who still been unknown, and the handle should be found. However there isn’t formal specify explanation about this case.


The fraud News about David which had been mentioned by media is not based on anything, this is the clarification:
1. David intent to kill his professor then suicide by jumping from 4th floor and in that room merely David and Professor. David now had departure and the only witness that we had merely his Professor. How we can be convinced that his statement is true without any sufficient prove? The statement from Professor could not become a reason to blame David.

2. In some Media had Mentioned David stressed because his scholarship was terminated last month, he had attacked a wrong person because of misunderstanding. Does all this issue so oddity? David was clearly conscious that his scholarship will be terminated because his performance was falling down and that’s not professor false. Moreover David’s father claimed that David had told them 3 weeks ago, soon after he received message from NTU. And Family accepted and could bear the fee since it will be the last semester in NTU for David.

3. It is also mentioned that David was in depression, due to could not finishing his final project. David’s friend who schooled in NTU said that David project was almost accomplished. He didn’t go back home to Indonesia last semester because want to concentrate on his project. For those who knew David, David love games however one thing that we also knew he always did his duties and homework adequately without need help from someone, and cheat someone’s homework. Therefore if in Media mentioned that David attacked his Professor because he stressed couldn’t finish his project, it really does not make sense.

4. Media also said that David disappeared almost one week before the incident. Nevertheless his family knew that he was concentrating on his project. The statement that David had disappeared from society due to depression and intended to attack his professor has failed to convince us and is not valid. Within that week David chatted with his brother, and also played online games with his friends. He did not look like someone in deep depression who wanted to attack his professor.

All facts that had appeared recently, already removed the false news from Media:
1. David died due to jump from 4th floor without any wound on his wrist and with wound on his neck and buttock.

2. Professor checked out from hospital within 2 days without any clarification and picture whether he experienced dire injured or not.

Speculations and Other Possibilities:
Did David stab his professor when he was facing computer screen? If yes, it is impossible to recover soon within 2 days.

Is there any possibility that the professor attacked David? We don’t know, if yes. What would be his motive?

Recently the news about the professor wants to steal David’s project is vividly talked by many people. This issue is supported by David’s friend who mentioned Final year project David almost accomplished. Is there any possibility a Professor from famous university in advance country wants to steal his own student final project? Is it the real motive? We don’t know.

Is there 3rd party in this incident? We also don’t know.

In conclusion the entire David friends and teachers in Indonesia are hard to accept the news without any appropriate evidences. Without these evidences we are not convinced that a brilliant, nice person like David stabbing his own Professor.

From David’s Friends and teachers: David, now there is nothing we can do besides clearing your image and mention the truth about you. Please rests in peace, we all love you so much.

Author : Klemens Andrianto
Translator & Editor : Felicia Yan
 
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http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=17387&page=55


cl4y_m4n
Yesterday, 12:31 AM
March 5th 2009, I and some of David’s friends from elementary – senior high school visited David’s family at their home, for expressing our lament toward the tragedy and seeking the real truth. All of us (David’s friends and teachers) believed that he did not do such a crime like what media had published. When we were just arrived, there were his parents and brother welcoming us, and we discussed what had happened there.

The more we try to figure out this case, the more we found various oddities which are not disclose. Due to clarifying from David’s best friend from NTU called Edwin who already pawned his bachelor degree we would like to express our big gratitude toward him for trying to reveal the truth. Finally we would like to spread the truth story about David Hartanto , our best friend.

Several discordances:
1 Released by Media that David had attacked Professor Chan Kap Luk, then have intention to suicide by slicing his wrist , from where that the news come from. What they purpose to publish false news mentioned that David had slashed his own wrist?

2. When David’s family arrived in Singapore on Monday 2th March 2009 at night after the incident, Family wanted directly to recognize David’s cadaver however there are certain parties not allowed them. They said that it’s already the rule, so family tried to be cooperative even at the utter shocked moment. When Family had been allowed to recognize David’s cadaver after waiting for one day, nevertheless Family only can see David’s cadaver from neck until head, while others part had covered with plastic even they had asked to open the plastic and wanted to see his entire cadaver. Family had confirmed to Singapore police there is no wound on his wrist and at that time family also found there were many plaster on his front neck (neck under chin).

The question is why they have to wait for 1 day just for seeing their son’s cadaver?
Why David’s cadaver covered with plastic and not allowed to be opened? Is there any rule like that? Or just manipulation from certain parties to cover the truth?
From where wound on his neck? Why around David’s cadaver buttock had much blood? And never had been discussed by media.

3. Due to not been allowed to see David’s cadaver, Family decided to visit the spot on Monday night, however when they were there they couldn’t see any blood left or police line, it’s already been cleaned. Only within 7 hours after incident the spot had been cleaned totally. Is there any reason why they are so rapid cleaning the spot?

4. Then Family visited David’s room and they found all the computer devices still on. Does someone who intent to suicide still switches on his computer? Even David’s friend who was online witnessed David’s msn account still appeared online. Does it looks like David wanted to end his life? Even he still played online games with his friend who visited David’s family with us until 2 am at Monday morning.

5 In Professor’s room family found there was David’s bag. In his bag family found 1.5 L mineral bottle and towel.( for those who knew David , He always brings towel to school even sometimes he put his towel on his neck. He also always brings water because his mother always instructs him to consume much water.) Does someone who want to suicide will bring this kind of stuff, it would be more easy to bring merely knife which is belongs to somebody.

6 .David’s family had been prevented to meet with Professor Chan Kap Luk with reason that at that time he was still in ICU. However Professor’s condition had been stable since Tuesday and allowed to return home on Wednesday, mentioned by Singapore media. However until today I never heard his statement towards this tragedy.

7. When family intended to meet with the witness who saw David’s suicide from 4th floor, NTU not allowed with reason that this issue should be keep confidentially. So from where we know that there is someone who saw David’s suicide, not accidently falling or there someone pushed him down?

8. Data about David and his final year project had been removed from NTU data base. Within 2 days NTU directly removed David’s data and his project. Is there any special reason behind this? Why should quickly removed his data? Don’t they have any feeling to remember their brilliant and intelligent student who won International Mathematic Olympic? Seemed like David never study in NTU.

9. The knife that had been used is from 4th hall, is that the result from investigation? Or just excused? One of our friends who study at NTU said usually Professor has small knife in his office to cut fruit. The question is that knife belongs to David or Professor Chan Kap Luk?

10. The tragedy happened at 10.45 am on Monday Singapore time. Doesn’t its oddity, merely few students who witnessing the incident? Is there any demand from NTU to remain silent?

11. The tools that had been found to stab the Professor is fruit knife without handle. Where is the handle? Is it possible to stab someone using knife without handle? Who stab who still been unknown, and the handle should be found. However there isn’t formal specify explanation about this case.


The fraud News about David which had been mentioned by media is not based on anything, this is the clarification:
1. David intent to kill his professor then suicide by jumping from 4th floor and in that room merely David and Professor. David now had departure and the only witness that we had merely his Professor. How we can be convinced that his statement is true without any sufficient prove? The statement from Professor could not become a reason to blame David.

2. In some Media had Mentioned David stressed because his scholarship was terminated last month, he had attacked a wrong person because of misunderstanding. Does all this issue so oddity? David was clearly conscious that his scholarship will be terminated because his performance was falling down and that’s not professor false. Moreover David’s father claimed that David had told them 3 weeks ago, soon after he received message from NTU. And Family accepted and could bear the fee since it will be the last semester in NTU for David.

3. It is also mentioned that David was in depression, due to could not finishing his final project. David’s friend who schooled in NTU said that David project was almost accomplished. He didn’t go back home to Indonesia last semester because want to concentrate on his project. For those who knew David, David love games however one thing that we also knew he always did his duties and homework adequately without need help from someone, and cheat someone’s homework. Therefore if in Media mentioned that David attacked his Professor because he stressed couldn’t finish his project, it really does not make sense.

4. Media also said that David disappeared almost one week before the incident. Nevertheless his family knew that he was concentrating on his project. The statement that David had disappeared from society due to depression and intended to attack his professor has failed to convince us and is not valid. Within that week David chatted with his brother, and also played online games with his friends. He did not look like someone in deep depression who wanted to attack his professor.

All facts that had appeared recently, already removed the false news from Media:
1. David died due to jump from 4th floor without any wound on his wrist and with wound on his neck and buttock.

2. Professor checked out from hospital within 2 days without any clarification and picture whether he experienced dire injured or not.

Speculations and Other Possibilities:
Did David stab his professor when he was facing computer screen? If yes, it is impossible to recover soon within 2 days.

Is there any possibility that the professor attacked David? We don’t know, if yes. What would be his motive?

Recently the news about the professor wants to steal David’s project is vividly talked by many people. This issue is supported by David’s friend who mentioned Final year project David almost accomplished. Is there any possibility a Professor from famous university in advance country wants to steal his own student final project? Is it the real motive? We don’t know.

Is there 3rd party in this incident? We also don’t know.

In conclusion the entire David friends and teachers in Indonesia are hard to accept the news without any appropriate evidences. Without these evidences we are not convinced that a brilliant, nice person like David stabbing his own Professor.

From David’s Friends and teachers: David, now there is nothing we can do besides clearing your image and mention the truth about you. Please rests in peace, we all love you so much.

Author : Klemens Andrianto
Translator & Editor : Felicia Yan

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